Tsg New Br194/e94 And New Timetable Discussion

I don’t think that is the case. The side of the loco states two different brake weights for P and G setting. That only makes sense to me if there is a changeover switch.

Any chance you could clear this up, DominusEdwardius?

 

Same happens with the BR218

 

First Impressions - PC Steam

Was only able to get my hands on it this evening and test it properly. Have to say... Pleasantly surprised by this one, both about good quality stock and gameplay in general! Just finished railtour part 1 on Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn and that E94 088 performs very well. It is pleasant to continuously adjust the power, even for small bumps ! The "Umbauwagen" are also quite well made! It's time to try the Br 194 on LFR!

Issues found (E94 088):
- Engine room light switch overlapping textures (that classic "flickering").
- Fail to lower the sun shield (driver's windscreen, both cabins).
- Have to close cabdoor window before you can opening it (think this is a core issue, right?)!

PS. Special mention to the beautiful "cold & dark" start during scenario! You have to turn on the auxiliary compressor first, in order to raise the pantograph... !

Not bad at all for a day one purchase, never do this usually (except for the Dutch route and a few others)! However, getting it on sale, even just 20-30%, that's its real value!

EDIT - Br 194 on LFR

A nice light loco consist transfer.


Don't know who said "all local services feature the same Minttürkiser Silberlinge"... If you own all the right layers, you'll see almost all "Minttürkiser-Elfenbein/Ozeanblau" mixed formations !


A pleasant surprise, during waiting time !

Agree with those who assume that 110 and cabcars should be repainted and adapted to that period of time! However, wouldn't be a difficult job to do!

After a light loco consist transfer + freight service (Falns) performed:
- Br 194 is similar but different from 1020/E94 088, much more difficult and complex to set up!
- Haven't encountered any particular issue here; this confirms the good quality of the TSG products!

So, this one gets a nice 8.5/10! Congratulations TSG, you can improve it, but it's already a good pack !

 

Does anyone know why the 111 horn doesn't work? It also doesn't work on the Mittenwaldbahn. I didn't test if it works on the Pfälische Ludwigsbahn though.

 

Anyone know what the coaches for the E94/ br 194 called in formation designer?

 

As per the devs, the valves are there but a modeling glitch means that for now the player can't reach them. They're outside on the bogies themselves.

 

Works for me.

 

it works but is very very silent in the cab.
outside you can hear it better

 

I swear it wasn't working at all, but now I am doubting myself... I will try again tomorrow. Thanks.

 

Yeah no it doesn't work. Pfälische Ludwigsbahn's 111 works though.

 

Training for the E94 csan not be completed, the move the reverser to forward is not seen by the game, whether you use the mouse or the W key
That also mean that the Journey can not be completed

 

BTW, can someone explain the difference between the BR194 and E94, beside the numbers, and what we had with the last Austrian trainset, all 3 are exactly the same locomotive (please no Google as there no real good information about anything on Google)

 

Just tested it , the mittenwald 111 on Linke Rhein , both cabs seem to work.
What platform are you on, i'm on epic games

 

It's been covered elsewhere, but here's the TL;DR

In the beginning there was the DRG BR E 94, built 1940-43. At the end of the war, many of these were located in Austria and the Austrians kept them. After the Deutsche Bundesbahn was organized in West Germany it ordered another few in the early 50s.​

1. DBB didn't upgrade these engines very much. A few tweaks, notably Indusi 54, and I think some suspension mods, but the most apparent change really came in 1968 when DBB changed its numbering system and the E 94 became the 194. This is the one which runs on LFR: a venerable old lady still pulling loads in the 1980s, not much changed from her original configuration
2. The Austrians, however, decided to invest in modernization, and around 1970 made a very extensive overhaul/part-rebuild of their old E 94s (numbered by OBB as 1020). So the one from Mittenwaldbahn is a seriously altered machine (two-pane windshield, automatically lapped brakes, more powerful dynamics etc etc.)
3. The specific museum/railtour unit E 94 088 is sort of a hybrid of the two. Once an OBB engine, she got the full overhaul. After retirement though she was obtained by a museum in Germany which has set about making a semi-restoration to her old German appearance. However, because she does run mainline railtours and even the occasional revenue service she has modern systems like GSM-R and PZB 90 installed, making her, to drive, the "newest" of the three.

 

I am on Epic too
I tried verifying the files and re-installing Mittenwaldbahn, didn't work. Also it worked before but stopped working in the middle of a mittenwaldbahn run

 

Thank you for your clear explanations

 

194: recover from Zwansbremsung?

Yes, I've been through the manual procedure, which is pretty standard: stop, hit PZB release, and wait for the brakes to recharge. fine, that all happens.

Problem is, I have no power.Spinning the tap wheel does nothing.

Oh, I have OHLE; gauges are reading properly, fans are blowing merrily away (and cycling the MCB doesn't help). Tried everything; the last thing I tried (because then I had power again) was just something random: I tripped off a traction motor breaker and reset it. But that can't be it. What's going on, why was my power gone, and why did I get it back?

 

I can't replicate this one, I just as soon as I get a Indusi emergency demand move the brake handle to Emergency, move the power controller to off if it isn't already, then when I come to a stand press the frei button, recharge the brake pipe and let it come up and then proceed as normal.

 

Quick FYI on DBB service types found on the 1984 timetable-
(If you already know this stuff, skip it)

Passenger services all come with a timetable number prefixed with one or two letters. That is, except for those without letters at all. These Lokalzüge (Personenzüge, Nahverkehrszüge) were the direct ancestor of the Regiobahnen: the local stoppers. Almost always used Siberlinge or Umbauwagen, or the rather small inventory of Mitteleinsteigswagen from the early 50s. EDIT: also, a lot of diesel railbuses like the old Uerdingen VT 95 and 98, being replaced gradually by the first 628s..

Next up were the Eilzüge ("hurry trains"*), the E-trains. These filled the same niche as today's Regio Express services, local semi-fast trains that only stopped at the larger towns. Generally used the same equipment as the above, except there were also the purposebuilt Eilzugwagen.

The next class up was the Durchgangszüge (through trains**) or D-züge. This is what you took for a journey as opposed to a jaunt, and were eventually replaced by the Interregio. No more spartan local coaches! These long-distance trains were the domain of the m-Wagen or UIC X-type 26,5m carriages, and on the whole pulled by more powerful locomotives. They also cost more, there was a surcharge on top of the basic per-kilometer fare.

In second place in the pecking order came the F-trains, Fernschnellzüge: long-distance express trains. In theory these services were abolished in 1971, replaced by the Intercity, but even in the 80s some few survived. These trains were fast (up to 160 km/h), always included a dining car, and cost a double surcharge. M-wagen again, pulled by 110s and 220s.

And at the top of the heap the IC, the Intercity. Rather than a "whenever" schedule like the F-trains, the IC connected Germany's major urban centers with regular one-an-hour departures. These, together with the handful of TEE trains still running in 1984, were where you would find the special luxury coaches Amz, Bmz and their successors, air-conditioned with plentiful room and all the comforts, pulled of course by the queenly BR 103, and wearing the special beige/crimson livery (up until 1979, ICs were first-class only and so had had no blue coaches). These intercity coaches are rather overused in our existing 80s timetables, for lack of the correct cars.
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*They first appeared around 1900 as "express trains without surcharge" - no surcharge because they used old rolling stock
** Once upon a time, Durchgangszug meant a train with corridors and connecting platforms so that passengers could walk through the train. But that usage was long obsolete.

 

Did you touch the air compressor switch? Or am I thinking of the wrong version? I had that off one time and it didn't build up air pressure.
Also I find I have to cycle reverser sometimes to get going again after an emergency stop.

 

Again, the brakes aren't the issue: they recharged and released like they should. It's having no juice to the traction motors.

 

The requisites for making the traction motor contacts close are as follows
-The Power controller must be being moved from the OFF position increasing past 0.5
-The Reverser must be in direction
-The motor brake switch must be in motoring
-The schnell aus buttons must not be pressed
-The sifa chamber must be charged (only charged when external Sifa valve is opened and brake pipe is created) OR BOTH Sifa fault switches must be in the abnormal (Isolated) position
-Control voltage must be present, MCB must be closed for this to occur

additionally the motor overload relays must be set, if any or all of them are tripped, those motor contacts will not close. That is pretty much it.

 

Actually, I would connect this class more with multiple units/railbuses...
VT 98 (BR 796/798)


ETA 150 (BR 515)

VT 23/24 (BR 623/624)

for example...or in game the BR 628 which I think, back then, in the late 1980s was announced as "the new/modern (something like that) railbus" (Actually, I can't remember any electrified (besides the accumulator-powered 515), so it might be correct for electrified lines....

 

Railbuses did a lot of locals, for sure. But in my little town, the trains (all locals) were loco-hauled, with Silberlinge and/or Umbaue.

At the other end, in the 80s a few F-trains still used VTs (DMUs)- the VT 11.5s/ BR 601s were still serving, though no longer as TEEs.


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Our memories may be slightly different because of the north-south divide; southern Germany was already largely electrified before the war -the Bayerische Staatseisenbahn had started it - and needed to run fewer of the diesels and steam engines that were common in the north

 

That's just it... every region, every single route was a bit different in rolling stock... that's why I love this time, it had lots of variety to offer

Depends on the specific region. I'm from the south as well and in our area (south of Augsburg) we had (and still have) mostly diesel routes. When I was born, the routes were run mostly by 515, 628.0, 628.1, 627.1, as well as 211/212 or 218 with n-Wagen, m-Wagen, Umbauwagen. By the time I started to gain interest in the subject, the 515 had been replaced by 628.2 and the 211/212 relegated to freight duty.
Colourful times

Fun fact: Augsburg planned to replace its ageing 515 with shiny new 628.2 in 1988, but the latter weren't becoming available fast enough. So they kicked the 515 out regardless, and replaced them with equally geriatric VT98, which they kept until the early 90's. Defintely not an upgrade

 

Love this overview

I was also doing some research for my Transport Fever network, this should be roughly the years of major operation of each. Red are train types operating as individual pairs, green is train types with operation in regular intervals.

 

? how to release all the pressure from break tank and pipe
I can hear it leaking when no battery / AC overhead , but the value unchanged
they didnt simulate this?

 

The one at the very top of this list fits Niddertalbahn RB34 Rhein Main Verkehrsverbund RMV if we wanted it to be the 1980s transition from them to 628s.

 

The pipe was evacuated as soon as you moved the brake into the Off position. As for the tank it doesn't really matter; the pressure will leak out eventually if the compressor isn't running.