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  1. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    A hobby by definition is not something you get into with the intention of making a profit off of. In fact most hobbies you will not make the money invested in it back.

    Any car I have rebuilt sells for less than I invested in it.

    No way will I ever get half of what my guitar collection cost me back if I were ever to sell it.

    Baseball cards dropped over 70% in value in the 2000's so my collection is useless to bother selling.

    So no you don't make your money back from hobbies . A hobby is something you do that you personally enjoy.
     
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    I do drive TT’s but usually one at a time on different routes for variety. That is a good compromise. But I do enjoy the unknowns of scenarios. When it comes to freight scenarios are the only way to go as TT is basically drive a freight train from A to B!
     
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    I didn't say that. I said with most hobbies you can recover some - not all - of your investment.
     
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    Emil OLT on the discord posted this.

    This is every TSW DLC ever, being in a massive queue for an update.

    When something like this is happening behind the scenes, you know something massive is in the works, We all know what this means for September.

    Strap your socks in, because August is going to be a wild ride.
     
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    TSW6 for sure
     
  6. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    Hey is Peninsula Corridor in there. As that could be a hint if it will move over to the new version as well for those that own it.

    But sure looks like they are all being republished.
     
  7. Mich

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    That's like saying that the job of train engineer is to not drive buses. Just most not doing that doesn't make a a requirement to be classified as a driver. Someone buying a bunch of collectibles then selling it for profit on eBay after sitting on it for 10 years wouldn't suddenly mean it's no longer a hobby. The only really requirements are that it's something you do in your free time, and it's something you derive pleasure from. Heck, some people have fun playing speculator and trying to make some money scalping things on eBay as a side hustle. Nothing about that contradicts the general definition of hobby like you're implying.
     
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  8. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is, if you are going into it looking to make a profit its not a hobby by definition. It's as you said it becomes side hustle or enteprenership.

    A hobby is a recreational activity pursued for enjoyment, typically during leisure time. It's a way to relax, learn new skills, and express creativity. Hobbies can range from collecting items to engaging in creative or physical activities. They offer a sense of fulfillment and can improve overall well-being.
    Here's a more detailed look at what defines a hobby:
    • Regular activity:
      Hobbies are typically pursued on a recurring basis, not just as a one-off event.
    • For enjoyment:
      The primary motivation for engaging in a hobby is personal pleasure and relaxation.
    • Leisure time:
      Hobbies are pursued during free time, separate from work or other obligations.
    • Variety of options:
      Hobbies encompass a wide range of activities, including collecting, creating, playing sports, and more.
    • Personal expression:
      Hobbies can be a way to express oneself, explore creativity, and develop new skills.
    • Well-being:
      Hobbies can reduce stress, improve mental and physical health, and provide a sense of purpose.

    And by your statement just because you can drive a train does not mean you can drive a bus. Probably about a quarter of LRT drivers in Calgary don't have a drivers license. So they can't drive a bus.

    Just because you have a drivers license does not mean your qualified to drive a train either.

    Don't believe me search up when does a hobby no longer is a hobby.

    The answer.

    A hobby transitions away from being a hobby when the primary motivation shifts from personal enjoyment and relaxation to a commercial endeavor with the primary goal of generating profit. If an activity is undertaken with a reasonable expectation of profit and is conducted in a business-like manner, it is more likely to be classified as a business or side hustle rather than a hobby.

    Exactly what I said thank you.
     
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  9. Mich

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    If as you say treat it as a side hustle or entrepreneurship then yes, it isn't a hobby, those ain't the type of people me, or indeed I imagine eldomtom2 are primarily talking about. (though to be fair I can see why you thought that in my case, I did bring up the side hustlers first, lol) There is very much edge cases where someone invests into a hobby partially because of the economics, while also not necessarily being the primary factor. There's many who buy into a toy line because like many others you genuinely think it's a fun thing. But also might be investing in it partially because they do think that either for themselves later in life or perhaps for their kids they can pawn it off and overall make some sort of profit from it.

    I can say that with confidence because my parents did exactly that for my Thomas toys, I'm sure a few others can say similar. While they bought them largely because I liked them, they understood well before I did that they could be worth something someday and bought them knowing that they could possibly be sold down the line if I ever choose to. Especially since back then they'd have had no clue if I was gonna keep them or pawn them off when I got older. They absolutely would not have invest as much into Thomas toys as they did back in the day, down to the point of importing Japanese-only items like Oliver for me, if they thought they'd be worth pennies in five or ten years.

    100% I would describe it as was a hobby, but it wasn't being done under the assumption they were throwing money down the toilet, never to be seen again. And frankly knowing the value of much of that stuff now we very likely ain't anything close to losing money on it. Not saying we're beating Wall Street or anything crazy, but they were ultimately right they they would be worth something down the line. For those reasons the implication you need to have a fetish for burning money for something to be called a hobby just doesn't sit right with me.
     
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    This time next year we will be expecting TSW7.
     
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    Reckon they are all being optimised for the newer iteration of Unreal Engine?!
     
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    As someone who is in the collectors world. I have every GI Joe from the 80's. Guitars and amps, baseball Jerseys.

    As soon as you start selling said collection because you are done with it we would then call you a "dealer" and not a collector.

    I get what your saying but even to collectors. Unless your selling part of your collection i.e. doubles to 100% buy something missing from said collection or add to another collection you are a dealer. You would never sell something you don't already have in your collection.

    As you said your parents collected it for you as a possibleinvestment for the future not as a hobby. As soon as the thought of investment by definition it is not a hobby.

    Unless you have kept up with adding to said collection for your life as well. Are you displaying it, or are you just sitting on it until value comes up or rainy day? Because if its the later that is not a hobby. I bought my daughter a big collection of Barbies when she was a kid because I did know they would be worth something in the future. That was an investment in her not a hobby. If she then chose to continue collecting then it would have been a hobby to her. But they are sitting in boxes in her basement awaiting a rainy day as the original investment Inwent into it.

    None of my collections will be sold until I'm dead, I'm not in it to make cash off of anything now or the future. Same with 100's of my collector friends as well.

    But if I did sell it would no longer be a hobby because I'd be moving on to a new hobby. Just
     
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  13. Double Yellow

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    What I’m most excited for is what UK route will feature in the 3-pack.

    Hoping to see either a Midland Mainline (St Pancreas to Bedford) or a GEML (London Liverpool Street to Colchester or Ipswich) route.

    Keeping my expectations low though.
     
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    Manchester to Liverpool with Chat Moss and Cheshire Lines
     
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    Not to start a 'R' word rant, but be very cautious of having high expectations, hyping yourself up and setting yourself up for failure with this years TSW release... Well with the UK content that is at least. If Rivet are holding the reigns on producing the UK content for DTG and building their flagship route, don't hold your breath or set yourself up for disappointment.

    I'll be sitting firmly on the fence for the first time this year and TSW6 won't be a day one purchase, I'll opt for the free upgrade if it's available.

    But each to their own, that is just my personal position and I am not lecturing anyone on what they should and shouldn't buy. But after the state WCMLS was released in and the fact we are still awaiting Liams full upgrade for the route nearly a year on, I've learnt my lesson and had my fingers burnt so to speak.
     
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    JD is going to be on the roadmap stream next week so that all but confirms that we are getting the same announcement as last year.

    I don’t know why they still keep up this charade. Just announce TSW6 instead of a Direct. We all know what’s coming at this point.
     
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    I haven't bought anything for a year, I had high hopes for TW5 and what a disappointment!!!
    It's not complicated, Ue4 is rotten for this kind of game, this engine is a real misery, DTG has always known it, I will never understand why they persist with this!
    As long as DTG doesn't release a new game on a new engine, I'm no longer interested.
    Anyway, with all the DLC I have, I can play for at least 5 years without any problems, not counting TSC, which I've had since the beginning.
    The worst thing for me is having to re-download 500 GB every time the version changes. It's no longer possible, either it's a new game or it's goodbye TSW.
     
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  18. Double Yellow

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    I find it difficult to envision that occurring, to be honest; DTG's foundation is deeply rooted in UE4. However, they will eventually need to progress the game, which implies a new iteration of Unreal Engine. Nevertheless, I still do not foresee that happening in the near future. Should they decide to transition to a different game engine or to UE5, you can say good-bye to your existing content being accessible in the updated version of TSW. I maintain that UE4 appears satisfactory for the time being; it is merely the gamma and brightness levels that require modification within the game. This is an area where TSC truly excels, as the lighting in that game is significantly superior.
     
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    UE5 is even more of a stutter mess than what we have now in UE4.

    Look at how many UE5 games released in the past 12 months have performance stutter issues across all platforms.
     
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    But only if you buy the enhancement packages. The Vanilla games lighting is awful compared to TSW.
     
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    That goes without saying. People learn very quickly when investing in TSC to buy the AP packs.
     
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    Anyway to buy them through steam or am I forced to use the website, because I’m kinda screwed for the second one since I don’t have a bank card
     
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    I’m still missing a few myself, but I have the most important mods like the sky, weather and vegetation. Then there’s the loco mods for model and sound improvements which I’m currently waiting for buy, when AP do a sale then I’ll bite :)
     
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    I’m basically stuck unless someone buys me one of them, hopefully I will find some time between my university college to get a bank card so I can use pay pal
     
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    You are studying at university but don´t have band card or acces to paypal? I had my first bank card when I was 16...how do you buy food and all?
     
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    I live with family and they manage the rest and well I use cash so it’s pretty easy getting food at the university itself, it’s just I don’t have a need for a bank card for my every day life at the moment since I don’t have a job
     
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    If rivet are involved i think I'll give it a miss too.

    A couple of ways I've found of spotting whether rivet have been involved are:

    Do the windows open as a toggle or are they variable? If variable, probably rivet.

    When you jump to external camera, does the camera point 90degrees to the side rather than straight ahead? 90degrees to the side, probably rivet.

    When you jump to the external camera, are the sounds still muffled as if you are still inside until you move the camera away from the train? If so, probably rivet.

    Are new bugs introduced when a patch is released which then never get fixed? Probably rivet.
     
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    You’d be wise to give it a miss if Rivet are involved. None of their own routes are satisfactory as far as the scenery design. So many errors and omissions. Cardiff City Network is the same as they helped DTG and there are plenty of signs of Rivet’s sloppiness.

    What annoys me about Rivet, is despite all the criticism, they have never bothered to correct any of their routes. Their design team is very poor.
     
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    As is their comms. Jasper used to respond but I have pinged a few times about that incorrect 20 MPH speed limit after Carbis Bay on the St Ives branch (it should go back up to 30 once over the foot crossing) but has never had the courtesy to acknowledge let alone confirm they will fix the issue.
     

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