Tsw6 Announced

Just fix (un-bleach) the lighting and improve (fps) the performance please and no more fluff stuff!

 

I've seen TSW often be on the front of the Microsoft/Xbox store page and even the home page since TSW is on Gamepass. Sales also help with that as well and I would assume it's the same on Steam/Playstation. There are console games that don't have yearly releases and they get pushed to the front of the store page so I don't really buy that argument that a yearly release is the only way for TSW to gain players.

Having to redonload everything is getting ridiculous at this point especially for those with slow internet speeds.

 

Kids and Grown-Ups love them so!

 

So the Caltrain stuff we already own, (Peninsular Corridor) won’t carry over to TSW 6?

 

Will there be yet another UI?

If so, I hope it’s more streamlined than in TSW 5. I also hope the colours are more obvious for what you are selecting.

Given that the scoring system for medals is either way too generous or impossible to achieve on a normal run, I hope the whole medal system gets scrapped.

 

Correct.

The License/s have expired, TSW6 is a new game technically.

Until DTG are successful in obtaining new License/s you will need to play that content within an installation of TSW5

 

For now they don't have a solution, but they still hope to bring it to TSW6.

 

It seems to me that the only real beneficiary of this yearly re-issue is DTG's bottom line. Unless there are very substantial improvements to the core game ( which, judging by past years, especially last year, is highly unlikely ), no benefit will accrue to the players, even if the base game " upgrade " is free.

The whole idea is to persuade new and existing players to buy into one of the bundles, which many will do even if they really only like one or two of the new routes in a bundle.

I fell for this " come on " last year and bought the deluxe pack. Wish I hadn't. I've not played any of the three routes much at all. This year I'll probably download the free upgrade ( even if there's nothing new worth having ) and then individually cherry pick any new dlc only if it interests me.

Frankly the whole PR thing we've seen and heard in the last couple of days, especially that lame, empty " explanation " of the yearly iteration on the Roadmap, is just pure hornswoggle.

 

I think that’s exactly the point though, if you don’t like it you can upgrade for free and spend your earnings elsewhere. At the end of the day DTG is a business and they need to make money to survive or else there will be no Train Simulator at all

 

Yes, same here. It's going to have to be something exceptionally special and iconic to persuade me to part with in excess of £50 this year. SBO turned out to be a boring straight run past backyards, freeways sans any trucks and flat as a pancake arid scrub.
Frankfurt to Fulda was moderately interesting a couple of times but unless an afficionado of German rail routes it wasn't really lighting the LAMPOIL. the bonus Flixtrain didn't really offer much on top.
And WCMLS started off as a Rivet lemon and has never really emerged from that shadow. I mean it's not a total loss, but the Rivet shortfalls, the short running distance, the lack of branding and of course the fact one of the key trains (390) on the route could only be obtained by forking out on the Deluxe version all made it less than it ought to have been.

 

TSW5 Launch was mismanaged, Frankfurt Fulda has been a slideshow in parts for many players for months on end and WCMLs was clearly still in a beta when it was released, and only going to MK put a bad taste in many players mouth. We never got the full WCMLs timetable and the so called "Community Team" ignore the thread like the plague! It's becoming increasingly clear that the team is forced to work to unachievable deadlines in the name of cashflow, resulting in numerous unfinished content, or cut short content. I've still a bitter taste in my mouth about Cardiff City Network not going to Barry, and DTG's consistent message of "deadline came, shipped it anyways". Whoever is above Matt, that is making these horrible business choices needs to give someone else a go now........

 

A simple answer around WCMLS seems to me that Rivet were outsourced and created the entirety of the route with the exception of the Class 390. And the quality shows in that. Even Liams timetable that was being floated about to keep us onboard seems to have turned into dust or is on permanent hold with no further updates... (not Liams fault just to note).

Overall though as much as I do not like Rivets work (which has been discussed to death), if DTG are the ones happy outsourcing the work to a company with very questionable quality in all aspects of their work and a poor reputation in the community, and are happy to defend them and allow the company to build their own branded routes... Then ultimately the buck stops at DTG, and DTG are the ones accountable for that work. If they are happy to ship out shoddy work like the original state of WCMLS and what little improvements have happened since, and CCN, they are the ones responsible for the quality control and publishing routes to customers. It just gives me the impression Rivet are the cheapest company to outsource too whilst DTG focus their energy on an unknown project.

But DTG are the ones damaging their own image by allowing Rivet to produce their content... And it's exactly why I won't be purchasing this years flagship launch content. If DTG wants to continue this partnership/arrangement they have with Rivet that is completely their choice, but equally they can't expect customers to feel sorry for them when things turn sour or sales dip in the long run.

I hope they see sense and starting moving away from outsourcing large projects and routes from Rivet, but aslong as they continue defending their work, I can't see that happening... Look at CCL and some of the station modelling, or the state WCMLS is still in.

Will they learn with TSW6? I don't think so at this moment in time. But that's just my own personal speculation. By the time they realise what damage the work being outsourced to Rivet is having on their image, it'll be a little bit to late.

Anyway enough ranting and raving from me...

 

Agree. If perhaps the yearly rehash does tempt in a few unsuspecting, new players, you have to wonder how far that offsets thoroughly pissing off the existing playerbase. If TSW5 had been a straight update to TSW4, I'm fairly certain I'd have bought more of the available DLC, rather than deliberately skipping some on account of the bad taste left by the faff of 'upgrading' to no tangible benefit and repeatedly running into the same old unsolved bugs. Here we are now with a few TSW5 titles that I'm yet to complete trophies for, so I'll probably just keep plugging away at those in the rare times I choose to open TSW these days, rather than subject myself to the same woeful 'upgrade' path once again. It's a never-ending catalogue of promises, could-have-beens and ultimately, disappointments.

 

What's the point of the free starter pack? The game just doesn't evolve and looks like a bunch of useless add-ons

 

Gives people with no interest in the new routes the ability to upgrade to the new version without having to buy something they aren't interested in.

Plus, for brand new players, it gives them a chance to get something of a demo before they decide to get a 'proper' route.

 

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I bought said dlc in other versions so I shouldn’t be forced to upgrade. Also, the stuff in the road map was promised to previous versions. What about fixes to TSW5? They should come to 5, not 6, they were promised in 5. You will only get them moving forward with 6.

why can’t anyone see this? [Deleted; insulting other forum users - DTG Harry]

The same people on here don’t care about quality, don’t care about broken dlc, don’t care about fixes, don’t care about inconvenience. Don’t care about customer experience and value for money.

They just want trains.

 

You forgot to mention not caring about ranty people like what you seem to be doing, I definitely don't care about them either. Obviously I'm to busy driving trains in my subterranean flat under my mummas house....

 

In the nicest possible way, I can see it. I just don't really care.

Yeah, I would be happier without the annual download (but that's not so bad if you pick and choose which add-ons you want to start with).

Aside from that inconvenience, it makes no difference to my life whatsoever and has no impact at all on my enjoyment of the game. At the end of the day, if that's what makes the most sense to DTG in terms of the marketing returns they get from a new edition, and that gets pumped back into the game, then so be it.

It costs me nothing but time, and there are plenty of other things that bring me joy in the world, so a large download each year is not going to impact that in the slightest really.

If it's a problem for you, then that's your prerogative. It's not up to you to decide what is okay for the rest of us, however.

 

'Upgrade' to a new version without any real benefit, and certainly nothing that couldn't have been an update, particularly if they have no interest in the new routes.

Brand new players could just as easily try out the TSW5 demo - they're not going to get anything different with 6.

 

Sure they do

A nice yellow 6

 

Well, for a start, without knowing what any features are, we have no idea yet on that first point.

As for the second... that hasn't been available for free for months, so... TSW6 it is.

 

Because they have to be cut off eventually, ultimately the cost and time to QA test content to run on those heaps of garbage won't be insignificant, and I'd bet most of those players would move on to a newer platform, they just need the shove to get them to do it.

 

And a candy bar of their choice, or so I hear.

 

A Twix or a Freddo yes

 

Exactly.

 

Also forgot to add I don't royally care about you replying to blatant sarcasm that you seem to think is literal, oh and the fact it went straight over your head, don't care about that either. In other breaking news that will possibly annoy you, it turns out that isn't my mummas house, it's the councils place and they ain't happy about me digging a huge hole under the bungalow she lives in just so I can drive trains, but I doubt if you care about that just as I don't care about you dude.....

 

Should be fine if you apply for planning permission

And bung them a few quid

 

Yes you do, you care more than ever, you wouldn't respond to these "ranty" people all the time if that wasn't the case "..............."

 

I really hope not my moms been dead for 20 years so i hope I don't live in her basement or that would be creepy

I don't know how insulting everyone is going to help anyone support what your so upset about.

Not saying your wrong but as soon as you start insulting everyone you make me want to disagree with you.

So thanks I really don't care. I've been a Madden and NHL player since the 90's and have bought every edition, I'm used to it. It's life.

 

If you didn't care, then you wouldn't be responding to those individuals or even be on the forums. Given the fact that all you seem to do here is respond to those with criticisms and try to dismiss them, it seems that you do care a lot

 

... money

Well... they could've also just... you knwo... not make new iterations and just focus on making updates to existing the existing TSW version and spend more time on making routes... that can also help make money...

 

Well if you called a straight up rant and clearly insulting people that want the product that has been made as a valid criticism then guess what, I don't really care about your response either, end of day the game is a product, some people on here won't like it, that's angry ranty man, stick with what you got and be happy in life. But if you going to straight up insult the people that would like the product that has been made just because you don't like it, then as far as I see it you are a open target for mockery and sarcastic literatury slapping. Have a wonderful day squire........


P.S. just for the record clearly not aimed directly at you, but you have to state these things as folks just seem to love getting angry.......

 

Anyway, rest assured - there will be no revolutions, everything is the same - tons of bugs and short routes are guaranteed ))))

 

Just think back over the years at each time a new TSW comes out, but things seem to be getting worse?

TSW3 to TSW4 we went from having a working game to a game that kept crashing

TSW4 to TSW5 we have ended up with crashing and fuzzy textures

TSW5 to TSW6 what wonderful feature we getting this time?

Am I wrong? And we seem to be landing at launch day with a hot mess every year and the mess is getting bigger. The previous game needs to be fixed and stop carrying over all the problens from previous games.

 

Free Twix or Freddo

But not both

 

NO FIX.....NOT TWIX....an easy mistake

 

How do you explain Freddo then

 

Interested to know which of the standout features you think have justified the last couple of versions? I'm not talking about route-specific stuff that was only applied to the new routes, because they definitely could have been added under the old number, but things that have fundamentally changed the game as a whole. Is it that special UI update where it wasn't entirely clear which of the boxes was selected, that you loved?

 

Cardiff is definitely too short, desperately needs an extension to Barry Island. I hope that is in the pipeline behind the scenes.

 

Freddo from Spain is doing the fixing?

 

Freddo is very much not Spanish

 

Are you sure

 

That guy and a few others are the same bunch who are upset every single year, yet they continue to co-exist with us all in the realm of TSW.

If you continue to whinge and moan for 4 years straight it’s probably a good idea to find a new game to satisfy your hobby. Clearly TSW isn’t for you. There’s plenty of other train sims out there, just saying.

 

Clearly you do care since you keep responding

 

If we don’t complain nothing will ever change, and well there’s not many other train sims on console

 

True, but it still doesn’t change my opinion.
I wouldn’t be playing a game I wasn’t happy with.
The same can be said for any AAA game though.

I think the problem is players expect perfection when it comes to TSW. The game will “never” be perfect and it will continue to have bugs from now and many years to come.

There’s also ways of complaining if done in a proper manner and tone. The way people complain sometimes is just pure nastiness, and the devs don’t deserve that kind of feedback. Even Rivet with there track record fore whom I dislike to some extent, I have always kept my insults professional and not barbaric. Although I don’t like Rivet making routes I think they’re great at loco building, so that’s where I think they’re should focus their efforts at.

 

its really like we shouldnt be getting a new iteration of TSW every year because every new feature needs to solve bugs and etc and it needs time. Might as well, at least every year, DTG should publish 3 of their own routes and then maybe a new iteration of TSW at least every 2 years plus 3 routes. That or just outright dont do new iterations and just update the existing game with new features.

excatly. there is a reason why there are people who use the world "fanboy" to people who just outright take what the developers published... like if there are bugs, then there are bugs its there. If there is something bad about the route (concept), then say it. You don't and shouldn't just ignore it.

 

Agree 100%.

 

The problem is the fact this game still has problems from tsw 2020/ tsw2 but yet they are still releasing new games without even trying to fix said problems.

they over promise and under deliver,

the only reason why I still play the game is because of third parties and well not having another train sim to change