Train Sim World 6 Might Be Doomed

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  1. trainfan#6965

    trainfan#6965 Well-Known Member

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    I did, in the polls!
     
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  3. trainfan#6965

    trainfan#6965 Well-Known Member

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    Ofc I can read, I don't have dyslexia
     
  4. trainfan#6965

    trainfan#6965 Well-Known Member

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    That's just inappropriate or creepy image I'm reporting it
     
  5. docsnyder1911

    docsnyder1911 Well-Known Member

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    And you really can't prove your gameplay improvement without scorings? Such things like to use the safetysystems completely, being in time with your services or restart a shut off engine or being able to drive the Expert 101 amd Bpmmbdzf 286.1 in Expert mode aren't give you enough feedback about your driving abilities?

    I think it's more about comparing with other players. I made that too, if I was younger. :)
     
  6. MrSouthernDriver

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    It's clear you are simply doing this for more airtime and attention. You are contracting yourself for a reaction from other people.
     
  7. Vinination

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    Sure. No hate at all.
     
  8. trainfan#6965

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    No I'm not
     
  9. joffonon#1689

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    You lied twice that proof of what you actually posted was fake. It wasn't fake, you actually posted that. Context has nothing to do with things, you posted that TSW6 is out (it isn't) and that it's doomed (opinion masquerading as fact).
     
  10. trainfan#6965

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    Actually I didn't mean TSW6 was out I meant it was coming soon, oh and that proof of what was actually posted was real, just denied it that was hours ago
     
  11. Feite#7323

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    Okay, but why are you calling it then fake.
     
  12. Double Yellow

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    I’m not a train driver, just a casual player. Expert locos don’t interest me, not really my idea of fun sitting down with a gameplay manual next to me and wondering why my train alarm is going off.
    I know there is a target audience that want more of a difficulty spike in their gameplay, but not for me.

    Yes I know when I’ve made most mistakes, but not all the time. Sometimes route knowledge comes into play with some safety systems especially on the German content. The scoring summary at the end of a run tells me where I messed up.
     
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  13. trainfan#6965

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    They are now
    Oh because again I didn't mean it was already doomed
     
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    So that means you drive the same service as long your scoring becomes better, otherwise you couldn't see your improvement? I think it's not funny. :)
     
  16. Feite#7323

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    Then you shouldn’t have written it like that
     
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    I don’t drive the same services. I see improvement as I learn a route more.
     
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    I'm confused, the OP has another thread about it not being fair for 9th Gen to get exclusive routes and packs over 8th gen.

    Then he bashes 8th gen on the first post here saying it should be dead and TSW needs to move on.

    Well which is it? They seem to be contradicting themselves.
     
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  19. Gilly

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    Never mind artificial intelligence, this thread proves we haven't even created artificial stupidity yet.
     
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  20. docsnyder1911

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    But if you want to check your availabilities with your scorings, the scorings have to be compareable. Because a short depot run will not bring so much points like a comuter long run in general.
     
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    Absolutely. I rarely do depot runs though, as a 5 minute shunt into a station isn’t fun. It’s only fun if you’re shunting or moving stock from a depot miles away from your current objective, and you get held up by signals and passenger trains. That kind of action rarely happens in timetable mode though, only in scenarios. Unless I’m picking the wrong timetable services?

    I’ve been playing a lot of WCMLOS lately, that’s my go to route right now.
     
  22. FredElliott

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    Plenty of the non artificial type
     
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  23. krustynuggets

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    Me thinking that by tomorrow morning the OP is going to fall out of the arse of the planet, that boy be digging a massive hole so fast he'll never climb out of it.........:D :D :D
     
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    Change the poll so 'no' is 'ask chat'
     
  25. docsnyder1911

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    Yes its probably the best British route in the game at the moment moment. Because it has a lot of variety. Passenger long range Highspeed. Longrrange freight, shunting and commuting. And you can see the West Coast north of Lancaster.
     
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    OP's behavior reminds me a whole lot of that Thomas basher whose aggressive pushbacks against reality quickly became more concerning than funny.

    But I hope this thread doesn't get deleted, because while the reasons for DTG holding on to gen 8 have been touched on before (and are mostly self-evident IMO), I don't remember Matt ever going into so much detail. That post will be nice to refer to when the "gen 8 is holding the game back" catchphrase people sound off.
     
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  27. Killer-Of-Night

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    At best, a DTG admin locks the thread by tomorrow. They could though delete it by the OPs request sometimes....
     
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    Staff aren't usually on the forums during the weekend, if it were to get locked, it would be earliest monday
     
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    I am confused … what bugs and issues need to be fixed on a product that hasn’t been released so that product can avoid being doomed? Not following the logic with this poster… and if AI was utilized in the original diatribe, it needs to have a much better training set obviously…
     
  30. jack#9468

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    Seems to be trolling, weekend again I see.

    Not been here a lot lately, but seems some things never change.

    Why have artificial stupidity, there's enough natural stupidity as it is.

    (Note to OP, this comment ain't directed at you.)
     
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    I thought we were meat popsicles
     
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    The OP should become a politician, with their contradictory views, u-turns, reliance on AI and their eagerness to cry fake news even when evidence to contrary is presented means they will go far.

    Seriously it is time for polls to once again be turned off and a forum rule added regarding the use of AI.
     
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    That must have been it. Though in my defence, m’lud, I had just finished a very satisfying run on WCMLOS with an 87 having taken one traction motor out to, well make a bit more of a challenge. So I wanted something quick to do before bedtime.
     
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  34. trainfan#6965

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    In TSW5
     
  35. trainfan#6965

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    I requested this thread deleted anyways
     
  36. Doomotron

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    TSW games being released on the PS4 and Xbox One was a one-sided debate, because it was always obvious that dropping support for them wouldn't improve the game. This is what Matt said in this thread, and what others have been saying for years. It's the same with Unreal Engine 5.

    Matt Peddlesden's comment is a bit misleading though.
    That is the single most important thing he said, so let me translate it.
    "We have to do the extra work to release on the eight generation consoles because the amount of players still using them is so high that it's not financially plausible to drop support."

    It's not a kindness. They didn't really have the choice. This leads perfectly into my next point, which is that there's a sentiment in the TSW community that the game isn't really going anywhere. This is pretty much true. The big advances in TSW came years ago - everything added in the past few years is a surface-level feature added to create marketing material for the new releases. It's quite obvious what should be added to TSW - Matt has listed them - but when are we going to see them? There are rumours that the team in DTG dedicated to developing the TSW core is tiny or nonexistent. Is it true? I don't know, but it wouldn't shock me in the slightest.

    With most games there's a clear path to make it a perfect version of what it is. TS could be 'finished' if the CPU load created by lofts was lower, and if the good parts of the current beta and main releases were combined, among other things. Gran Turismo 7 could be finished if it had loads more events and offline saving. Red Dead Redemption 2 could be better if the cut content was added and they kept updating Red Dead Online (ironically they released the first update in years recently). TSW has a number of issues, but the way to fix them isn't clear to me. I believe DTG doesn't know either.

    To be fair to the OP, I do believe that support for the PS4 and Xbox One should be dropped. I don't believe that for the same reason. It's blatant that DTG are not capable of optimising the game properly. They claim there are improvements coming with TSW6, but it won't be the gigantic leap the game needs. It runs terribly on PC - TS usually competes very well despite being from 2007 and being built for a type of CPU that doesn't exist anymore. The PS5 and Xbox Series X versions should run much better, and the PS4 and Xbox One versions are basically non-functioning. The LOD issues are unacceptable. The framerate is unacceptable. The crashes are unacceptable. It's been this way for years.

    The eight generation ports will only count as playable once it runs at a consistent framerate, doesn't look horrendous, etcetera. DTG won't do this though, because the game is so unoptimised generally that they'd need to fix every other platform as well. They're not capable of doing it. You can blame the PS4 and Xbox One for the performance, and that's completely fair, but DTG gets most of the blame I think.

    Matt is right that GTA6 will likely create a large amount of PS5 and Xbox Series X sales, but in general I find the economy a scapegoat for the reason why they're not selling. It has had an effect, but Microsoft and Sony have been unwilling to budge with the price even though they probably could have. And, of course, there are barely any games for either console. I have a PS5 for just two games - Gran Turismo 7 and GTA Online. The latter isn't by choice; if there was an option to go from PS4 or 5 to PC then I would have taken it long ago. I have an Xbox One, but I only use it for playing Xbox 360 games. I can afford a Series X, but if the only advantage is playing Forza Horizon 1 in 4K then I'd be wasting my money. I'm sure that if there was a barrage of must-play games on these consoles, you'd be seeing much less of people using XYZ as a scapegoat for console prices.

    Although, if you're not really into gaming then I wouldn't recommend getting either. Spend your money on a base Mac Mini instead.
    Thread deletions are very uncommon here. Thread lockings do happen, but I'm not sure they do it by request.
     
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    TSW 6 will not be doomed. Despite my criticisms and rage at little things that still shouldn’t be happening, TSW is largely an enjoyable experience, for me anyway.

    I wish it could be better.

    I wish all the time DTG Matt said is spent on Gen8 was spent on making Gen9 as good as it could possibly be.

    I wish they abandoned the rather pointless scoring/medal system as there is no real challenge in getting ‘Platinum’ and I wish more time was spent on making existing content ‘Brilliant’ rather than releasing more and more DLC.

    But I’ll still likely buy TSW 6 at some point. Especially if it brings new routes that I’ll enjoy (Merseyrail ;)).
     
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    That wasn’t what you wrote… no mention of TSW5 in your comment. And the logic still doesn’t make sense that TSW6 is doomed if problems in TSW5 aren’t fixed.

    if you meant that comment to be applied to TSW5, you need to proof read your comments to ensure they are actually conveying your thoughts… otherwise it looks like you are changing views just for the sake of argument.
     
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    I think the only truly doomed release was Rush hour, and even then calling it doomed is a bit of a stretch it was really just too much at once, and TSW survived that so TSW6 will be fine.
     
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    I wasn’t aware of the differences in times for PC/ Console so thanks for that. PC market I’d class as the more advanced hard core users.
    Where Console is for a majority time used by younger gamers. That’s where I think damage will be done.
    Because you’re right in what you say. I’ve owned most GTA games. Even GTA London on PS1. They was ruddy good fun I’ll tell ya that, playing with ya mates to see who gets the furthest after jumping out of a speeding car.

    Time has marched on so would I find all that funny again. Plus I’ve been online a few time and it’s just full of sweats. There all day on line capping people of all day long flashing their shark cards down at the ammunition nation store.

    Yet it’s GTA and was always for fun or letting some stream off. It’s a laugh, yet you hold a valid point. At this age does the game still appeal to the kid inside. Fun, or will GTA6 be full of pros taking that fun away. Instead at the mature age I am would I prefer to chill while hauling a goods train over Shap than acting like a psychopath with no moral compass on GTA6.

    GTA6 looks amazing it does, but like you say would walking around technically killing all day still applies to what older audiences liked from the original GTA top down view when I was basically a young teenager. Following the crowds.

    It’s all different now. Chill not stress by competing with sweats on line:)

     
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    Why someone commented on my YouTube channel video that I was a spammer from the forums
     
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    Well it would appear that you like just spamming pointless polls on the forum, the proof is all the pointless polls and threads created by you, but just to clarify it definitely wasn't me in your comments section, wouldn't want to watch anything you have probably told an AI to put together.........
     
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    I’m not sure why someone would do that, but if I may give you some advice. As multiple people have said, stop creating so many topics and poles. Perhaps have a few days away from the forums and let the forum equilibrium naturally restore itself and learn from the backlash that you’re getting. Multiple posts and poles really upsets people on here and you’ll get yourself a reputation of being a nuisance.

    I’m sure behind the profile is a nice person. Maybe just go and spend a few days enjoying Train Simulator
     
  45. redrev1917

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    Oh the irony, a troll crying about being trolled
     
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  46. SierraOscar95

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    Most likely because you're starting a reputation for yourself here. That's some annoyance you must be causing for it to extend to YouTube...

    Look, and I mean this in all seriousness, just take it on the chin. I presume you're a young lad by the posts you're making and a bit naive (We've all been that person at a young age). But just learn it as a lesson going forwards that your threads are being called nonsense by myself and others, because they lack any clarity or real direction with their intent other then sounding like someone mumbling to their self, hence the negative reaction...

    If you're going to post something, make it semi articulate and about a specific subject, and heading in a certain direction.

    That is all, a firm but fair approach will suffice this time.
     
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  47. trainfan#6965

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    Well I've already deleted the comment
     
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    This need locking up as this is a troll
     
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    I wonder what would give people that idea?
     
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    I'll never understand why there are players that act like dropping gen 8 will make this game better or that gen 8 is the reason for the issues plaguing gen 9/pc version of the game
     

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