PC Ts World Raildriver And Joystick Interface

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  1. cgndriver

    cgndriver New Member

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    Thanks for the reply, but I can't find a "Single Lever Joystick V2.pdf", only "Single Lever Joystick.pdf" without "V2", and no reference to the "range" feature.
     
  2. tehangrybird345

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    I recently started using the raildriver application from this thread. And while it has helped massively, there is still an issue with the dead zones. I’ll try to apply throttle or brake, but I have to push the levers an abnormal amount. And typically I reach full throttle or brake before the physical limits of each lever. Is there a way to adjust these? Yes, I have calibrated it properly.
     
  3. CobraOne

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    Old age creeping in, I forgot to include it in the latest release. Here is a link to the Manual
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/c9q4...ey=ogrm1ls77nkvrm1xugzw6xiql&st=61nz6pvj&dl=1

    I have also added it to the the main zip file

    Chris
     
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  4. CobraOne

    CobraOne Well-Known Member

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    Have you calibrated your Raildriver in both my program and TSW? If so, did you calibrate it in my program first?
    If not, rename the C:\Users\[YOUR USER NAME]\Documents\My Games\TrainSimWorld5\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\Raildriver.ini to Raildriver_old.ini. Replace the [YOUR USER NAME] with your actual user name.
    Next start my program again and a new default Raildriver.ini will be created. Try that without calibrating in TSW.

    Chris
     
  5. tehangrybird345

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    I think so, but I’ll try that method just to be safe
     
  6. tehangrybird345

    tehangrybird345 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I had to re-calibrate it in TSW after calibrating it on the program. That fixed it
     
  7. thicc putin

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    When i try to calibrate my controller, it just gives me an error "File not found" how can i fix that?
     
  8. thicc putin

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    If i ignore that i cant calibrate my controller, i cant connect it to TSW, it just says "Unable to connect to TSW - retrying connection" i have manualy replaced the PieHid64.dll file, that didnt fix it
     
  9. Antarcticant

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    I'm interested in this project; since it behaves as a raildriver emulator; is it possible to use this with Run8? That simulator only accepts raildriver as an input, or UDP packets if using custom / DIY hardware. Specifically I'm trying to get the TSC-X to work with Run8 (not officially supported but I figure try all avenues before trying to write my own code translating COM port data to UDP packets haha)
     
  10. CobraOne

    CobraOne Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to need more information. Are you refering to calibrating in my program or TSW? Does the error say which file isn't found?
    Are you using a Raildriver or other controller?

    That implies the PieHid64.dll is not in the correct place. Can you tell me the full path to where you placed the dll?
    Where did you purchase you copy of TSW was it Steam, Epic Games or XBox etc?
    Can you try running my program as an Administrator and see if that helps.

    Chris
     
  11. CobraOne

    CobraOne Well-Known Member

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    I'm affraid not.
    I have rewritten the PieHid64.dll used by DTG in TSW so that it will accept input from my program. If you use the dll without my program then nothing will happen in TSW. To make it work in Run8 would require a lot of work on my part, basically a rewrite of all my program which I am now too old in the tooth to do. :)
    Chris
     
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  12. Train Sim Society

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    Just wanted to quickly pop in here and say a huge thank you to Cobra for all the work on this tool!

    I saw my TSC-X review getting mentioned in here, so I just wanted to acknowledge that. When I made the video, I wasn’t really aware of everything going on behind the scenes. Sim Workshop included a link to the software in their delivery email to me, so i was under the impression there was already some kind of support in place. I didn’t mean to add any pressure or confusion by sharing it, but looking back, i feel like i probably did, and i genuinely feel bad about that.

    i’ve already reached out to Cobra privately, but just wanted to say something here too after reading through everything. I was digging through the thread while trying to get the class 350 idle notch working (which i did eventually figure out), and it just didn’t feel right to ask for help without at least saying something.
     
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  13. Pablo5

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    Oh man I'm confused after reading all this... I bought the TSC-X after watching Train Sim Society's video and also had no clue that any of this was going on between SimWorkshop and CobraOne. I'm now trying to install Cobra's software to get the device to work but I had no idea this was necessary as I wasn't told at any point that any software was required. I have the tech savyness of a rock so I'll just figure it out eventually but the whole situation is kinda dodgy. To be clear, I'm not asking for tech support from anyone except SimWorkshop who I have already emailed, I'm just sharing my experience.
     
  14. CobraOne

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    Just to clarify for everyone who has purchased or is considering purchasing the TSC-X controller, it is perfectly OK for you to use both my programs with it. I will be adding full support for the controller and I am happy to offer help to anyone who is having difficulty with the controller and my program.
    Chris
     
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  15. Antarcticant

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    I think if anything, that's just a testament to how desperate the community is for new interfaces or Train Simulator hardware. Recently, it feels like the market for Truck / Airplane / Farm / Racing simulator hardware has absolutely exploded, but Train Sims are left behind. Developers should feel more pressure on supporting custom axis and button assignments native to their simulators, but beggars can't be choosers I guess.

    I've developed my own utility for Run8 specifically, (100% coded with github's copilot using Sonnet 4.0 model) for control mapping. Cobra, you've been an inspiration in trying to get my feet wet in expanding support for our favorite sims!

    (Project is here if anyone wants or needs it: https://github.com/Antarctican0/ctrlconductor)
     
  16. Pablo5

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    Thanks Chris I've now figured it out and I'm very happy to hear that you will be adding support as I imagine that will remove the manual keymapping.
     
  17. raz22

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    This program is working GREAT for all of my playtests so far except for this one:

    https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...-commuter-2024-timetable-enhancement-pack-v13


    It's a mod to allow passenger timetables into the Oakville DLC. For some reason, none of the levers will respond using this mod (but the buttons work). It's only this timetable. I intend to reach out to the mod's creator for help with this. but just curious if anyone else has run into this on the Toronto 2024 Commuter timetable mod?
     
  18. SGTDRE

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    Do you have any raildriver mods installed? Last, I ran that timetable mod it worked. But some new RD moods may affect the timetable mod.
     
  19. QNS Chris

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    Hi Chris - thank you so much for your work and your graciousness in being willing to accommodate the TSC-X controller and help players with the hardware. I just received my TSC-X controller and downloaded your software, but have never used software like this before. Do you have a step-by-step set of instructions to set up the TSC-X controller for TSW5 in your software? I was able to map the levers, but not the buttons. Further, even after mapping the levers and calibrating in TSW5, the levers were non-responsive. Any help or guidance you could provide would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!!

    Chris
     
  20. raz22

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    No, the majority of my mods are route patches (I don't own a Raildriver, I use a Winwing throttle quadrant). The Oakville one is the only timetable mod. I went so far as to remove all mods (except for official DLCs) from the DLC folder and I was still not getting inputs on those levers. The default trains DID work in the timetable, I've found, so it's only the reskinned layer locos that are responding to button presses but not levers.
     
  21. QNS Chris

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    Never mind - I was able to figure it out! I wasn't properly mapping the joystick buttons, and didn't click the "Start Callback" button before playing.

    This is a seriously great piece of software you've created - thank you very much for all of your efforts in creating and supporting this!
     
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  22. SGTDRE

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    My error, I took for granted, I have n ot used that type of controller. And I have not installed the new updates for that mod yet. Wish I could have been of more assistance.
     
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  23. Emmy_MAN

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    I also got my desktop-style all-metal train simulator control console, so I have a question about the Ts World Raildriver And Joystick Interface.
    First of all, thank you to CobraOne for this software.

    I downloaded this Ts World Raildriver And Joystick Interface a long time ago, but haven't had time to try it out or read the instructions yet.

    And before some users recommend that I read the instructions, I have to say something about that.

    I am currently in very poor health because I underwent surgery in hospital for a double-sided brain aneurysm and died three times during the operation. My heart stopped beating three times during the operation. And at the moment, I also have a few problems understanding what I have read quickly and normally.

    Now to my question:
    The creator of the all-metal desktop-style train simulator control console wrote to me that you can create profiles in
    Ts World Raildriver And Joystick Interface, for example for different locomotives.

    Is that right? Can you create any number of different profiles?
    And if so, what would people think if we either created a thread here in the DTG FAQs & Guides forum or set up a download page where everyone could share their profiles with other users?

    Would this idea be something for people with Raildriver or the all-metal train simulator control console in desktop style, so that they could exchange different profiles with each other?

    It took me over an hour to write this short article, and I hope that what I have written is understandable.
     
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  24. Train Sim Society

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    I have the same issue with the WCMLS custom timetables, specifically on the re-skinned trains. The inputs aren't detected in the sim, but are by the software.
     
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  25. tehangrybird345

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    Oh my god, I hope you're okay!
     
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    Hi, CobraOne. I just want to say that i've just tried your program with a combination of a Thrustmaster TWCS and TCA Quadrant + addon and it works like a charm. My experience with TSW is on another level now. Amazing job, thank you so much!!!!
     
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  27. CobraOne

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    Hi Emmy_MAN
    First of all I would like to say, sorry to hear about your illness and I hope you can make a full recovery.
    Yes you can create as many of your own profiles as you like in my program, but most loco's work well with just the three main profiles which are: ThrottleAndBrake, ThrottleAndDynamic and ThrottleFullRange.

    I'm not sure that sharing profiles would work because player1's profile for a particular loco, might be different from player2's and theirs may be different from player3. You could end up with a lot of profiles for the samr loco.
    Chris
     
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  28. Emmy_MAN

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    Thank you both very much for your get-well wishes.

    But as it stands, I will have to live with my daily headaches and memory problems.

    CobraOne
    Yes, the profiles are a bit of an issue. I just read a lot of messages from a YouTuber who bought the TSC-X controller saying that some users can't get the controller to work.

    Could you possibly create the three profiles you described and make them available for download here in the forum?

    That would certainly be very helpful to many users who have this new controller.
     
  29. CobraOne

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    TSW Raildriver & Joystick Interface V2.0.1.4 released.
    Now with full TSC-X support

    This version contains the following changes:
    1. Will now auto configure itself when using a TSC-X controller. Make sure you plug in the controller before running the program for the first time. If you forget to do so, then delete the Keymaps folder and setting folder, plug in the controller and start the program again.
    2. Updated the Quick start guide, now named "Quick Start V2.0.1.4"
    3. Updated the default ThrottleAndBrake, ThrottleAndDynamic and ThrottleFullRange to work with the TSC-X

    The default configuration for the TSC-X is:
    Left lever: ThrottleAndBrake/Throttle
    Middle Lever: Train/Auto brake.
    Right lever: Loco/Ind brake
    Buttons 1- 8.
    1. AWS.
    2. Cab view.
    3. Outside view.
    4. Doors open/close left.
    5. Doors open/close right.
    6. Engine start
    7. Engine stop
    8. Master switch
    Rotary 1: Headlights increase/decrease
    Rotary 2 Wipers increase/decrease
    button 13: Emergency brake
    Horn lever: Horn high/low

    You can download both a Quick Start guide and the main program zip file from my dropbox account here
    Main Program
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yqpi...ey=rwrrwo9r8v7u1s2vbzjwetkd3&st=mvee7xvt&dl=1

    Quick Start Guide
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/poft...ey=546nvz28sqnamso6j73o9dv22&st=bftmea0g&dl=1

    Chris
     
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  30. CobraOne

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    They are now updated in V2.0.1.4, simply select the version required such as ThrottleAndBrake, ThrottleAndDynamic and ThrottleFullRange
    ThrottleAndBrake which is used by most loco's is selected automatically when you first run my program

    I would recommend downloading the latest version and start from scratch, that way, your controller will be configured automatically.

    Chris
     
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  31. Emmy_MAN

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    CobraOne
    Thank you so much for the great service you offer.
    I'm simply speechless right now.

    And I'll write that in the comments on the YouTuber's channel so that those who don't understand can benefit from it right away.

    Thank you so much, CobraOne!
     
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    Hi CobraOne! Two questions:

    - Is there anything else in this update worth downloading if we are on 1.3 and don't own the TSC-X controller?

    - Very sporadically I've noticed that the lever controls stop working in the train. It's only happened a handful of times (maybe 3 or 4 in different trains) and the buttons continue to work, strangely enough. I usually notice when trying to brake and...nothing happens! :D. Closing and opening the program doesn't seem to work (it's usually a complete TSW restart). I realize that's not a lot to go on but I do wonder if you can think of anything that would potentially cause an interruption in the lever callback.

    Thanks!
     
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    Update re V2.0.1.4
    This only affects those who downloaded the program between 2.47 PM (GMT+1) on 20/07/2025 and 7.15 AM (GMT+1) today 21/07/2025.

    I made a couple of boo boo's with the latest version :(
    That will teach me not to go to lunch, part way through testing :D

    1. The button map for the TSC-X has the Horn Low set to the B key and not the N key.
    2. There is a full copy of the program folder, inside the program folder.

    To fix No 1 you can either:-
    (A) Download the whole program again and copy the files over your current version. Then delete your Keymaps\Buttons\Default_TSCXButtonMapper. The file will be updated automatically when the program is next run.
    (B) Download the replacement Default_TSCXButtonMapper and place it in both the DefaultSettings folder and the Keymaps\Buttons folder.
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/q6gc...ey=n59eyd4wqmf92yvs1bw6eat7t&st=b7z4ybuz&dl=1

    To fix No 2, simply delete the "TSW Raildriver And Joystick Interface" folder although leaving it there won't affect the program.

    Sorry for any inconvenience caused

    Chris
     
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  34. CobraOne

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    Hi raz22
    No, the updates only affect the TSC-X controller.

    Having to start TSW to get the levers working again implies that TSW has stopped communicating with the PieHid64.dll.
    Can you try setting my program to run as an administrator and see if that stops the disconnects.

    Chris
     
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    Chris, excellent idea. I'll do that and report back if it eliminates the drop outs.
     
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    Hello and thanks a lot for your effort CobraOne! So far everything works just fine with the new update on the TSC-X controller.
    I just have one question: Is there a way or workaround to get the Levers on the Class 87 (i guess it’s the same for the Class 86) to work ? All the buttons are recognized as they should but none of the levers I can get to react to any input. Seems this particular Loco works a bit different? Maybe someone has an idea.

    All the best!
     
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    Which route and timetable are you trying to use the Class 87 on? If I have it I'll test on my side.

    Your symptoms are the same as I had a few threads earlier where a modded timetable was using custom liveries that did not have the appropriate "hooks" coded into the mod to allow the train to accept lever inputs (buttons worked). I was fortunate enough to contact the mod owner on Discord and we worked to fix his two timetables (Oakville and Birmingham) to make sure they worked with CobraOne's software and accepted lever inputs. This might not be the case at all if you're using the "vanilla" game, though.

    Happy to test on my side with my controllers if I can!
     
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    It’s just the vanilla timetable from the Preston to Carisle route by Just Trains.

    Another thing I’m just curious about is how the throttle lever behaves. Even with the asset „throttlefullrange“ the physical lever on the controller just uses the lower half of its range to control the throttle. This makes it a bit fiddly and it would be nice to have the full range of the lever to control the loco. Maybe I’m just missing something. I’m completely new to train sim hardware so apologies.
     
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    Chris,

    I have had this problem for a while now and running the software as administrator does not eliminate the problem. KIlling the Raildriver program via task manager and restarting it while still in a run with TSW - Raildriver software come up with the status message of "waiting for TSW" even though TSW is still running. Exiting out of the scenario or timetable back to the main menu and restarting usually gets it to communicate once again. So open to nay other suggestion you might have.
     
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    CobraOne - Chris, I can confirm this. I was running a train on Manchester Commuter today and the levers just stopped responding, even as Administrator. Luckily for me it came back, although it cost me an emergency stop. :)

    90% of the time it DOES come back, for me. I just don't really know what is causing it.

    LeadCatcher - Do you have multiple monitors? I'm wondering if at some point I am accidentally going "outside the program" and it stops responding.
     
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    yes I do have multiple monitors, but I didn’t believe focus would have anything to do with this particular problem since I usually run it minimized anyway.
     
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    LeadCatcher - Do you have multiple monitors? I'm wondering if at some point I am accidentally going "outside the program" and it stops responding.[/QUOTE]
    I have multiple monitors and have never experienced this. At times when I move the throttle/brake lever nothing shows up on screen to reflect the change. The sim train's console though usually will show the change, especially if it's a brake application. I can see the brake gauge change.
     
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    I have multiple monitors and have never experienced this. At times when I move the throttle/brake lever nothing shows up on screen to reflect the change. The sim train's console though usually will show the change, especially if it's a brake application. I can see the brake gauge change.[/QUOTE]

    Unfortunately, for me the Raildriver quits responding totally. The program is totally frozen and must be killed via task manager. Going into details of task manager and it confirms it is “not responding”. CobraOne’s Raildriver software was very stable and I just started having this problem in the last few months… I need to review what changes I’ve made to my system to see if it is a self-inflicted problem.
     
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    I can't download current version of software because of virus warning. Didn't happen with previous version.
     
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    I had not paid much attention to the setting available in the Enabled Assets drop down. So today I tried the "Brake Full Range" with the DB 101 and found that it gives a lot more control over the throttle settings. One nit pick was that in this asset, the 4 way rocker switch does not control the doors. Oh well, worth the trade off of having to use the keyboard for this.
     
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    raz22
    LeadCatcher
    I have run 2 x 1 hour sessions on 2 separate PC's, one of which is a triple screen system. I even kept switching in and out of the game and I could not get either TSW or my program to lose connection.
    As my program was working fine before, I can only assume it is something that has changed on your systems to cause this.
    What that could be I don't know.

    If you are both using a Raildriver, can you revert back to the original PieHid64.dll located in
    "Train Sim World 5\WindowsNoEditor\TS2Prototype\Binaries\ThirdParty\PieHid\Binaries" by renaming the PieHid64_bk file to PieHid64.
    Can you then run a few sessions to see if you still have the problem.
    Chris
     
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    Been driving many hours now using the TSC-X controller (I have dual monitors) and haven’t had any dropouts.

    I don’t own Rails Driver so can’t test that unfortunately.

    Thanks so much for the software. I particularly like the fact that I can have different profiles for different trains.
     
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    Hopefully I'm allowed to post links to mods in this thread (as the mods are relevant to the discussion here), but in case anyone is interested, I've created a couple of mods on the Train Sim Community website for Train Sim World that reconfigures many of the button and lever inputs in several of the locomotive's External Hardware Configuration files (the files that allow the RailDriver controller to control many of the in-game buttons and levers); mainly all of the US Locomotives, but also a few select European Locomotives that I've been playing as of recently.

    Best part of these mods is that they work excellent with CobraOne's RailDriver & Joystick Interface, particularly with all of the RailDriver levers, as many of these locomotives that are included in my mods have had their throttle/brakes/reverser curves remapped with better curves and dead zones, as well as more responsive buttons, and more importantly barely any ghost inputs.

    US Locomotives: https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...guration-mod-us-passenger-freight-locomotives
    European Locomotives: https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...figuration-mod-european-passenger-locomotives

    These mods were created with using the RailDriver in mind, though I have no clue how well these will work with other controllers that use CobraOne's Interface (such as the newly supported TSC-X controller as I do not have the funds to buy one at the moment).

    Really appreciate the hard work put into this program CobraOne. Glad to see that despite DTG's apparent lack of interest in fixing the many issues with the RailDriver implementation (especially as we are beginning to move forward to the 6th...yes...SIXTH...iteration of TSW), there is at least a small community of people here who do seem to at least care and want to fix things that DTG simply can't (or won't) do.
     
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    CobraOne Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what happened there but if I zip the files using 7zip, windows reports the file as a virus. If i use windows built in zip function, no virus is reported.
    Can you try downloading the file again and let me know if you have any more virus reports.
    Chris
     
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    Following up to all regarding my multiple monitors post, and particularly to LeadCatcher since he also experiences the dropouts.

    I have a new theory. I haven't had the chance to test this new idea out completely because these drop outs are so sporadic and 99% of the time the software works fine. While driving, I found myself switching in and out of camera views (view 2, view 3 etc, free cam). When I went back to the cab, my levers weren't responding. I immediately hit "1" again (re-oriented myself still in the cab) and the lever controls came back.

    Again, it happens so rarely that I'm not able to rinse and repeat the issue, and I realize you can maintain controls while out of the cab....I'm reaching here, myself. :)

    But it's not a phantom issue. I'll try the "double 1 key" thing again in the future if it happens again.

    It very well could be a result of mods I use, but I'm not too worried about it. And CobraOne , to answer your question I don't use a RailDriver itself, I use your software with a Winwing throttle quadrant, Thrustmaster rudder pedals (acknowledgement pedal! :) ) and a PXN button box. They all work beautifully with your program (except that random 1% when they want to be stubborn).
     

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