Liveries Rail 200. Preparations And Ideas For September.

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  1. rigsby#3981

    rigsby#3981 Well-Known Member

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    Hello.

    Firstly just want to say I think we’ve all been doing a little thinking here and there.
    Mostly on the livery side of thinking with how much I’ve been time spent doing my own research here and there. Why I hope you see my comments as not negative but one of insight.

    Okay, you will see why I may have sounded off about sharing ideas:)

    I’m so glad you took the time to consider what I brought up.
    I feel if you can’t sum up all your aims in one sentence then like I say the aim is lost or not clearly defined.
    Again you will see what I mean and meant about core and being slightly distracted from not the core but theme say.

    Or the career thing well, I was on a high I think so went on. But I know you share interest in all things engineering.
    I do as you can tell. Drawing, art, design, and engineering. We didn’t have fancy computers or games consoles, so Titanic was what started it all off. As a 8 year old I was determined for no ship to sink again. That’s where it all began.
    Transformers “Robots in disguise”. All the kids love them and mini micro machines. Sadly I couldn’t stand them. To fiddly and when playing with them they would separate. So I’d take toys apart instead then get into trouble. I was a popular boy at school lol.
    They had no toys left so had to play outside hahahaha.
    “The Song on the Bus” fascinated me. The wheels went around. How, the wipers went swoosh swoosh or swish swish swish. How.

    The world I seen through the lense of child and still do. The world is still a fascinating place, full of opportunities or new adventures.
    Want to play do new things with other people. The child in me. What can we create today, like a picture in play school.

    Grown up jobs taught me a lot of things and one of them was don’t lose the ability be a big kid.
    So I see those as the things we loved as child our inspirations. Did all the dreams and aspirations a child have back then disappear as growing older took shape. I think that is the case here, I’m still a big kid with more knowledge than I had say a week ago.
    I’m always learning like I am for class 43 rakes or sets. It’s what I’ve been doing lately.
    Learning and you might be able to help me with this actually.

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    I’ve changed the dates for lifted and for SP. So my question is, what does the SP stand for?.
    Is it pool id or depot?. As the original stock in game has a date of 04,84 I think.
    Do you now what it is?

    So glad you didn’t get caught up in it all then, I believe it was unbearable down south. Even where I am was to much, I couldn’t work because I was so sluggish, with a banging headache. Even TTB and Jplayz said it was bad.

    I’ll catch up with you more in a DM soon, just need to hit some targets first. OCD kicking in.

    And no need to thank me as I don’t mind supporting those who have also been supportive in the past and now.
    You and Jplayz even TTB have all been supportive of which you know I am thankful for.

    So I drop you a message soon Jimbo.

    Enjoy the rest of your weekend to.

    Rigsby.
     
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    Okay then gents especially Jimbo. Heres what I’ve been plodding along with.
    Inspiration from Inspiration, been following the subject for some time.

    So moving on to what I’ve been saying about a core theme and purpose.
    A reason to work on something.

    Then I’ve created this livery with these key elements in mind. Core. Railway 200 (History and Culture) to inform. Theme/ Story. British Rail. (History) and then GBR to inspire the public and again to inform.

    This warrants why a 390 would be marked for a reskin as I have a reason for that.
    What does Railway 200 stand for, what are its core objectives.. It’s to inform and to inspire people.

    Why you might hear me say it’s not just about a livery. It’s what it stands for and gives me a reason to be here.
    Including others that was once part of R200. There was a theme and story or setting for say a scenario or video.
    There that layer is added to some of the work I do.

    To retain the core principles of what Railway 200 stands for be in work or conduct.
    It’s always about trying to inspire others and that’s the basic aim or reason I’ve spent time on 390 201.
    It’s fictional work yet would work in the real world context if applied in that setting.
    Could it be put to good use in a scenario as a reason to make that because a setting or theme is already there.

    A reason for everything or it’s just a waste of time, money and energy.

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    You will notice I’ve used names that are vital to the background of BR and GBR story.
    Old BR references and then some of my own conceptual vision. Design cues from VT, the nose the doors, The use of BR blue and retaining the Arrow logo. Then use of current GBR colours, with that concept or vision in mind to bring it all together to serve a purpose.

    If you can have a clear objectives in mind then you should be able to see clearly what you want from any work your doing.
    This is something me and Jplayz have been talking about recently. Not taking much on as it could result in losing any aim or vision.

    To take things easy and relax.
    So I had fun creating 390 201 “Named” ;) (Would have been better if my room wasn’t like a sweat box) and I hope it allows others to do the same.

    Catch you soon:)

    Rigsby.
     
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    Bring some focus back to why I’m still at it:)

    Charity, I don’t have money so I give me time to the event. I’ve been able to focus more on this with feeling more relaxed about working on the class 66s after no further correspondence took place.
    Charity is at the heart of what I do as I will openly admit I don’t have money yet do want to give back.
    So again Ive committed time to focus on the charity side as I feel that message is being lost in how some may look at what the Railway 200 event is about and it shows. Even my own work has been taken away from that message.

    Charities and raising awareness.
    So I’ve done these here with more attention to the events charity partners.

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    Completed.

    A new look for the 66s to sit along side 390 201, a theme. And to match a rake:)
    I’ve used the ECW class 66 as the livery will be more accessible, more subs means the meaning and message is spread around.
    To bring attention back to the events core meaning than aimlessly wasting time on other liveries.
    Even when it comes to the begging bowl. (Looking for new team members).

    It’s not about what I or anyone gets, it’s not about receiving but giving. Inspiration, hope even.
    Something I didn’t have as a child. Yet these charities do offer hope now for many children.
    The new Inspiration Train allows those with dreams and aspirations to get into the rail industry.

    The Railway 200 event is giving something back to many communities.
    So when these are released I hope we as a community can share the charitable message that I feel is being lost.

    Thank you to anyone that reads:)

    Rigsby.
     
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    Absolutely. Didn't come off negative at all.
    A moment of silence for all those broken toys... Anyway, I never imagined that a simple nursery rhyme could also generate such questions!
    I have no idea what any of those mean (apart from Mk3A TSO) I'm sorry I can't help. Actually I only recently learnt what TSO means!
    That livery looks amazing. I really like the lines going down the length of the train and how every little decal fits together. Very well done!
     
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    Hello.

    Okay:)

    Hahahaha, what can I say other than is this why I never got a train set for Christmas and only received Lego sets for nearly every single occasion of celebration. lol.
    Oh yes I didn’t sit there like a fool singing or clapping along to anything. I’d just be full of questions as a child.
    Still am.

    Like the one I asked about those codes:)
    It okay tho now but thanks anyway. Yes TSO stands for Tourists Standard Open. I found using the Hornby site helped me with those codes.

    And thanks, if you notice one thing then its this, Past. Present. Future. BR. RW200, GBR.

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    43 186 “Warrington” EX GWE.

     
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    Hello, now for some photos and a little more information on 43 186. And news of all MK3s finally done.

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    Just these photo for now;)

    So these was part of what I wanted a past member to do as unfortunately Jplayz has left now due to personal reasons.

    Their here now and for once finally feel like I’m getting back on track with some of the original ideas for celebrating Railway 200.

    The set will make sense now I’ve added 43 186 with 43 945. The same art work or loco but in two different guises. WD and then when privately owned by the J. E. Warrington.
    Works no 7136/44 Or 150 was purchased in August 1969 and moved to the Bahamas Railway Society at Dinting where she was painted in the owners home town corporation colours of Pale blue and Primrose yellow.
    It not longer resides at the BRS for it no longer exists and so she now resides at Peak Rail in Maroon colour scheme.

    So now I have 4 PC I can make two formations up to hopefully have them ready soon.
    I can move on to the next stages of what I have planned for Class 43s;)

    And now time few photos I took on a QC test last night….

     
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    Nothing fancy just took in the moment.

    Lead 43 945 to rear 43 186.
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    Last two. IMG_5265.jpeg
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    I’d like to add that 43 186 had a full refurbishment on the Railway 200 logo. And on all stock they was marked out first to try keep the same design or level for each different coach, so FO, TSO. RMD I’ve labelled the buffet car TFKB.

    I hope to have these released soon with two more sets not far behind.
    More information will be provided on each release here and on the TSLP Paint Shop.

    Thanks for reading and enjoy the rest of your evenings folks:)

    Rigsby.
     
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    Just one or two photos of the two class 66’s, 66 710 and 66 719.

    I feel I’ve already explained the purpose and original concept with the first 66 Railway 200 designs.
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    On 66 789 you can just about make out a start on a charity loco and is what prevented me from continuing with this design.
    Not only that but my early concerns on how I altered the logo and such high demand on decals that stopped me reaching their main purpose.
    Charities and awareness of Railway 200 partner charitable organisations. My work or work I was doing started to move away from that aim with other distractions, be my own ideas or what comes with running a team/ project.
    I can go back to the core idea of, or should I say dream of raising money by selling proper reskins or models.
    Like Bachmanns did with the class 69 for AMC. So imagine if Hornby made most of the models for DTG that would be at the real TGG.
    I could finally have a Class 50 or 55 Deltic, or hold a little competition to find who made the best Railway 200 theme livery that would be turned into a proper model. All or some of the proceeds go to charity. A Dream tho, one big dream.

    Yet I can still go back to basics, and hopefully I’ve managed to bring my work in line with those early basic ideas.
    So I hope you enjoy 66 710 or 66 719, I will endeavour on making the rake now:)

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    That’s it for now folks:)

     
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    Good afternoon everyone,
    I have an announcement to make on my projects for R200. Due to me taking exams in a couple of months, my next line-up of content, expected to be two posters, will be my last projects released under the R200 Team banner. Before I post any progress pictures, I want to say thank you to everyone who has supported me and the R200 Team. I would also like to thank the Team themselves (Rigsby, TTB). You have both provided me with support during my duration at the Team and I look forward to what happens next. I shall be watching from the side-lines, and will be supporting you as best I can :). You two have been there every step of the way for me, and helped me grow with my own content :D. I hope that despite my absence, you can both continue with this, or at least support each other like you did for me. I am glad to call you my colleagues, and I wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

    Right, let's move onto the testing pictures:
    -37501 poster example:
    -> This is some background and composition testing for my posters when I complete them.

    -37501 Teeside Steelmaster R200 (Latest update):
    ->This is some colour testing being used for the body of 37501.

    My next update will likely be my last. I need to finish up on some final things in the R200 Team, but if anyone is interested in joining, you can contact me, Rigbsy or TTB. We are all happy to provide information and we would love to hear back from you.

    JPlayz, Mr Mystery
     

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    Hello you:)

    Well firstly I want to say thank you making the announcement, for I’m glad you did because you can explain things for yourself now.
    Your plans for R200 and personal ones. I’m fully aware of those situations as we’ve had or said our farewell for now privately.
    Publicly all I can say is you’ve supported this from day one nearly, you’ve been a loyal community member to work with and a general all round decent human being to me and other members of the R200 team, even DTL community members.

    You will sadly be missed by all here and the wider community helping others the best you could.
    But you know I will always be thankful for your support and even still wanting to contribute to with the class 37 or poster work for the project.
    Again we’ve had these conversations privately and I respect this. But your life is more important:)

    I wish you every success be in personal life or not.

    Focus on you and look after number one:)

    The work you are doing hopefully still has a place and purpose now TTB the little dark horse surprised me with his latest news.
    Again I won’t say to much as I’m hoping he provides follows of this thread an update after these very turbulent weeks prior.
    A shock to the system for all remaining R200 members.

    Again I will not discus anything said privately here, yet the sentiment to carry on with this project was clear.
    Why we’re still plodding on even tho I had and still have reservations about continuing. (Lack of interest/members).

    Ie I’m sure we came here for fun not betrayal.
    Yet as I say this might change now after news from TTB.

    So my old friend hopefully Tom pull this out of the bag for the team. You might not be here but we will make sure you’re part of what you helped support for all these months. It’s a shame really it’s come to this, but that’s life.

    Gone for now but not forgotten.

    All the best for your future from the R200 team members.

    Oh and from Bernard at TSLP, you got on with him lol.
    Fun can’t last forever they say yet I feel it can, and why new dreams or adventures are so important because these path give new laughs.
    Hence it might seem sad now but there’s always a new adventure just around the next corner.

    A new chapter in your life.
    Enjoy that new chapter my friend:)

    Lee✌.

    Oh and by the way based on the information provided privately in the last few days I’ve sent a work order out as a retirement gift.
    “Archer” ;)
     
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    Seeing the power cars as part of a full set, the HST looks AWESOME!
    I wish you all the best JPlayz and thank you.
     
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    Cheers, long time to get out but I’m quite happy with the results considering the work load.
    A right pain the back side rolling stock is.

    And thanks for giving an ex colleague farewell well wishes.
    A suprise to hear he could no longer use the forums.

    Hey ho.

     
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    Still here. Sorry I'm working on a few surprises. All I will say to the community is it will be based off of the members, but will not be R200 related (well, not exactly).
     
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    Thank you for your well wishes. Oh, and well done with your latest livery (the R200 class 395). I saw it a few mins ago, and it looks very impressive :)
     
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    Oh for goodness sake, you've done it again!

    Yes, the livery for the 395 is finished. Being the fastest domestic train in the UK, it feels like a modern icon of the rail network (already 18 years old!). The livery takes inspiration from the Javelin's part in the UK's bid for the 2012 Olympic Games.

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    AI enabled: https://creatorsclub.dovetailgames.com/creations/227460
    AI disabled: https://creatorsclub.dovetailgames.com/creations/227461
     
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    Haha well like I said last time "I have my ways" :D. See mysterious by name and nature :cool:

    I like how there's the tie to the 2012 Olympics. That was a big time, especially for the UK and the railway transporting everyone to the event. This is very well thought out, and nicely executed :)
     
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    Exactly what we the team could have used there my friend, funky and fun. Stands out well.
    You’ve been contributing all this time for celebrating Railway 200 with many different designs.
    That’s what’s it’s all about, playing around testing with ideas and gaining inspiration.

    Again the core of what this and the real event is about. Inspired by the past, present and future.
    And the joy of bring all that together.

    So thanks for sharing your work it’s great stuff my friend:)

    Hope you’re alright too (If ya get my drift).

    Lee✌.
     
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    I’m confused now. Your back and too like a yo yo strapped to a string:)

    Rigsby.
     
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    You know, the surprise gift I mentioned to you and TTB ;)

    (Edit: Heading off now. Enjoy the rest of your evening)
     
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    Yes I know you did mention something about that. Yet I did say no. No for a number reasons with the main reason being the situation you told me of. You know my feelings about it all. So my understanding is that was it, you had to leave the forums for a while.

    All I’m saying is I don’t know if your coming or going lad:)

    Anyway I hope you had a good evening, I did some reading up on EMR as I’m looking into the history of certain routes and operators.
    I was holding that as a separate task for you so that you’d look after the Print shed like we touched upon in a few conversations.
    You like DMU/EMUs. There is a plan but again you’ve had to pack in so I’ll be running that on my.
    Sadly I didn’t share this information with you because again I’ve been aware of your exam and personal situation for a while now.
    The Team and I had this discussion a long time ago ending in us (All key team members) collectively agreeing that you dropping back was something that had to be done.

    You know I’ve always wanted you to focus on exams more than anything.
    It’s a conversation we’ve had a number of times usually ending in something similar to what I write now.
    That’s way more important than this project. It’s your life, and this project ain’t about to hand out GCSEs any time soon.

    Livery task or scenario task yes but no GCSEs:)

    I can’t tell you what to do with that life only respect you and the situation that’s all.
    And as an old friend support and send wishes of good luck in what for some can be a life changer.
    You know this because I have a family.

    Well I guess that’s all I can say for now, not sure if to say good bye or catch ya later.
    Like I say “Im confused”. A sketch from a 90s comedy show called “Hale & Pace”. They played a couple of big kids called Billy & Jonny lol.
    I’m the guy that can’t take anything serious. Aha ha:)

     
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    Right now I’ve said to myself I’m no longer doing announcement yet hard if I’m going to keep this going.

    Its seems after all this time the project has achieved nothing. And it hasn’t, with just empty words or people hanging around because maybe they thought by staying within the project offered them five minutes of fame.
    Yet soon as all that was removed internal interest shifted, ie mention of GBRf being interested only to be let down by them. Or to be fair small team limited resources within GBRf’s management or team structure. It’s only natural and what I seen happen within many groups or projects. Nothing new so excited it happening with the team. Even my heart wained a little yet again the project wasn’t all about fame or fortune.

    Now all have walked I can finally focus on what’s most important.
    Getting back to enjoying what I’d hoped for with TGG on TSW5 by continuing the R200 Project alone.
    Sadly The Greatest Gathering on TSW5 wasn’t meant to be and obviously I’d like to move on now with just over week to go until the real event. I’m Gutted that the team and I couldn’t provide a similar experience on TSW5 for those that can’t go to the real deal.

    Here I will be continuing with this R200 Project on my own and as from today the project is closed to the public. With any past liveries for members possibly removed. (I don’t like to do this for I am not a bitter man, but one that you could say feels let down, or would like to start afresh).
    It’s been open long enough yet here I am. So pointless continuing with that approach and so like to take this opportunity to say thank you to all that has supported what the team had once.

    Any key member have long gone, Josh has gone and TTB is working as an outsider contributing within the R200 team.
    Just one yet after asking for work to be published as an update for follows of this thread nothing has appeared from Tom.
    For why this has happened I am not sure but I will not stand still or allow that to continue.

    Either way I’d like to regain some order especially where my work is concerned.
    I have no interest working with time wasters that show no loyalty nor set out to destroy my dream or vision.
    Be directly or indirectly, externally or internally. I don’t wish to liked and don’t aspire to be loved even have friends.
    Non of that has or is of importance to me only loyalty for which I will always return. What is of high importance is to make a change for the good and for all.
    By what I am about to continue with will be aimed towards doing just that.

    I will be taking a gamble with some too, yet like Del Boy always said “He Who Dares Wins Rodney, He Who Dares”.
    So to wrap up the Plan A I’ll be providing one or two possibly 4 liveries, if I make good headway, only due to Plan B being worked on.

    All this will eventually come to light now I know where I stand and hopefully readers of this that have been following understand my reasons for safeguarding plans without revealing the real truth publicly.
    This is my way of saying I don’t enjoy or entertain silly arguments with anyone that doesn’t matter or dragging names through the mud.

    So that’s it as I’ve been transparent with what is important and personally open.

    When Plan A is ended in my mind then Plan B or stage 2 will publicly emerge.
    No fancy announcement pomp or ceremony, just work:)

    A quality product that fits what Railway 200 is all about.
    Inspiration and to Inspire others for future generations to come.

    One of my inspirations is and always will be Isambard Kingdom Brunel.
    I’ll work to I drop a man driven by pure passion not validation or glory.
    Just sacrificing all for the benefit of man in hope of a better world for all.

    What’s more important than that?.

    Night all and thanks for taking the time to read.

    Rigsby Lee:)
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    I've done DBC's 66200 in it's special version of the DBC livery with it's Rail200 markings. It was released at the Midland Railway Centre last weekend when 66091 was named Accurascale.

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    Wow this is very well presented. Well proportional, and has a nice clean finish.
     
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    rigsby#3981 Well-Known Member

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    Now thats fate. I’d seen these a few weeks ago in article I read on Rail Advert online. Then seen your work in the last few days, now this. I was going to ask if you’d like to post them here, no need now tho:)

    I appreciate you dropping them off here to, for the work is well executed. Why I’ve not bothered;)
    Truly is great work and for the cause as I believe 66 091 “accurascale” sales or proceeds of this product will go to a charitable organisation.
    For me personally it’s so nice hearing a story about TOCS helping people or certain groups or small companies.
    And for you as a community member helping others by sharing and creating content like you have.

    Well done DB Cargo, and to you Dave (If that’s okay, for you and I have spoken a few years back)

    Anyway this is what it’s all about, sharing and taking delight seeing work of this theme and quality come in.
    Proper Job:)

    Have a great weekend everyone:)
    And to you Dave, thank you.

     
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    Super Job, The Railway 200 logo is perfect.

     
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    So it seems you are going solo now. Well I suppose it's easier to manage. One concern I have though is this:
    Can you please explain to me where I stand on this because out of all members old and new, it was only you and I who successfully created liveries. I don't wish to cause arguments, but ultimately I spent a lot of time on these so I need to know what is being done with them. I know you'd feel the same if it were your content.

    JPlayz
     
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    rigsby#3981 Well-Known Member

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    Okay well time for work.

    Now most if not all the liveries that will be coming soon was work set up for the R200 Project, and the Team to create The Greatest Gathering on TSW5 or At the Event, yet we all know the score with that.

    No TGG.
    So the work may seem lost yet I hope you the community can embrace the work that will follow over the next few weeks.
    The work is dedicated to people who have made an impact in the rail industry or those stars that shine else where yet still touch hearts back home.

    I’d like to say the decision to do this livery has taken me some time to think over. The morals of it all.
    Purpose and point. Even promises I made to myself. Risk and respect to the charity and family by doing what I’m about to show you.
    I did reach out to the group on Facebook seeking permission, yet I got banned or something for pretending I’m someone else.
    That’s technology I have no time or understanding for so gave that up.

    So here we go.
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    I’d seen the story many months back and so after reading wanted to do something but what. I knew. I’d started planning for the TGG on TSW5 so with that id make what you see now “LORD OLIVER BROWN” for that event.
    I’ve mentioned this previously about my intentions, yet things change.

    My Will to help others didn’t wain tho.
    Yes I lost sight along the way but not heart to continue with my visions and ideas.

    I prey that The LORD OLIVER BROWN Locomotive Group and Oliver’s family approve of what I’ve done.
    This is why I’ve explained rather than just throw up on CC. I respect all yet I made a promise that little Oliver would be there out and about.

    Sadly I could only use what I have model wise. So a LMS Folwers 4F I thought might be a good choice for a second loco bearing “LORD OLIVER BROWN ll” name with pride.
    I won’t waffle on like I do.

    I want to help the organisations behind what TLOBLG do and are. A small dedicated team keeping the original TKH 5374 of Polish origins built by Fablock working on steelworks duties. It arrived at the Plym Valley Railway in November 2016 after a recent change of ownership.

    It then took 8 years of restoration work with the ambitious project aimed at raising founds for charity.
    Soon little Oliver’s names came to light and the rest they say is history.

    Today Plym Valley Railway have 5374 “LORD OLIVER BROWN” a title fit for Lord Oliver Brown and one he himself choose whilst in hospital.
    The teams there work hard still keeping the locomotive going helping raise awareness of Oliver’s Story and that of other charities such as Supporting Children’s Hospice.

    This is for Oliver, all that cherish 5374 “LORD OLIVER BROWN” and where Oliver’s love of all things trains live on.

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    …. IMG_5596.jpeg IMG_5598.jpeg IMG_5595.jpeg IMG_5594.jpeg IMG_5597.jpeg
    Thanks for taking the time to read, and take care folks.

    Rigsby.
     
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    Coming soon.

    Maybe someone could guess what the loco is in the first picture, a bit of fun on this day of rest.
    The second has been a long time coming, again focusing on what matters.

    The people the stories, the history.

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    So I’ve wanted to get an announcement relating to Celebration Gala for a while now, especially because rigsby#3981 suggested it to me a while back and I’ve just remembered now.
    It is still in early stages due to my procrastination :o
    The reason I’ve left 1Z25 on hold is because Celebration Gala is my main project. It will feature 43803 and 43825 (unsure about the other 2 power cars as of late, might have them pull Mark 2’s using the buckeye.) The R200 Team 87/0’s, I’ll try and fit in Lord Oliver Brown II aswell, but I hope it will be a fun scenario pack for you all
    That’s all I have to say as of writing.
    - TTB;)
     
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    I’m not going to full explain my actions publicly nor argue.

    Not here. For weeks I’ve been trying to establish from both members (You and TTB) intentions and found nothing in DMs, and recently wanted to see what TTB had done before I could say what use I’d have for your work after all the recent agitation’s. The idea came for a poster to celebrate TGG on TSW5, or 6. Without that or even a scenario then unfortunately I never had any feedback or long term solution to find a work around.

    You know this and you understand the effects it had for me too. The first stage a disaster, now I’m on the second stage. Liveries because that’s all I do and doing nothing different from what I was doing within the team.
    And yes I was the only one doing liveries but nothing was stopping you even him, no one. I said endlessly my work was me doing work and upto him or the team in what gets added, ie looking for others work and the contacting to make sure they was okay with work being filmed for YT. Steam, Diesels wagons passengers coaches. Include all talents and passions. We’ve been over this so many time in the past, I couldn’t do it all. I had to fight for this and why TTB came on board.

    And now, well again this should come of no surprise due to our conversation privately.
    Topics of trust, cooperation, time and commitment.
    If stage two was to continue as a team project then the project needed it. Not me. The project.
    But what happened. TTB pops up out of nowhere about the scernrio then gone, then you who taken the decision to leave the Project.

    I’m not going to start sharing ideas etc with people outside of that lodge remember.
    Sadly you’ve taken the decision to leave and I have publicly expressed how I feel.
    You too have also added your reasons.

    Jimbo and I said our goods byes even, all on good terms. But time is ticking now so have to move forward with my original idea for being here.

    I can’t support or commit my time or energy if someone is telling me they can’t be here on the forums or commit to a project.
    If you can then not a problem, I respect your decision either way. Yet you have to respect my decisions.
    Many made weeks even months ago.

    The main one was to enjoy this once in a lifetime opportunity, I thought if others get involved with the idea then many more could enjoy what Railway 200 offers. But sadly I have to say all that got lost because of power struggles many team decisions or agreements.
    I have to be realistic about all this and moreover not lie to myself. That’s what can happen when a project is run on a voted system not one of a job or project leaders telling members what to do. I get that after all the years in that type of work based environment.

    People forming alliances, all the silly mind games. Not to mention damage to people reputation or a project that should never be about all this.

    R200 is in my mind representing Railway 200 even charity’s and TOCS. I don’t think of me but what the project represents not only to me but others. As you mention about understanding others work then I do, that of brands/ logos etc. My fears of the past have not left so endlessly concerning myself about this. I try respect others reputation. This is my number one priority, and running a solid project.
    No drama. Just work as I call it.

    Or simply enjoying work like I’ve just posted for example.

    R200 has had its moments yet no one is to blame. What’s the point if it was a team effort. We’re all to blame, I’ve learnt from my mistakes.
    I’m trying to move on forward with the work I’ve planned. IF I had others than I’d support and share like a team does.
    After all this time I don’t have a team made up of full time members, nor have the luxury of the community flooding after members leave.

    I’ve explained my decisions to close the doors after all this time for the very reason stated above.
    Energy is now spent on my work, theme content and hopefully the fun some of these liveries will bring.
    Young and old. I hope the odd one or two will bring inspiration to members of public whom like you share a dream of working within a TOCS based industry. Sadly I couldn’t tell you my long term plans as you were getting ready to retire for some time, or leave to focus on your personal career goals.

    Either way you told me this directly and is still my understanding.
    The same should apply about work, I said no a few time because I don’t know what TTB is doing, you’ve seen all this and slightly concerned that your not going back to any recent DMs or one I’d left on here a few days ago. My words were leave it because I think history is repeating, and didn’t want you to be wasting time if we didn’t find a solution. We didn’t find one because well you’ve left and TTB is yet to be seen publicly.
    The information is all there for you to read.

    So no one is falling out with anyone. If you say I’m a project leader then how can I lead if there’s no to lead.
    How can I find work that we had planned or wrote in pencil, how can I do anything with no information internally or externally.
    It’s been weeks now with little to no movement. There for I can’t wait around for ever unfortunately.
    There is just so many exciting things going on right now, so many ideas and plans id like to see come to fruition.

    Why from day one I said I’m doing this to the end with or without. I knew things don’t always work out (My objections to wasting time on RM)
    People lose their interest or passion. Or unforeseen events. History will paint this picture.
    A picture I will not be painting again.

    I will not argue with you because there’s nothing to argue about. You know all what your concerned with has been talked over many times.
    You knew my intentions was to continue or I would have ended this fully. I haven’t, It’s just with unfortunate timing and that based upon what you shared privately things have lead to this.

    I no longer wish to speak so openly like this any longer yet have to if it helps you gain some understanding.
    I’ll support you still yes if things magically change overnight. If TTB shown up then your work has a purpose again.
    If things don’t change yet in that time your personal situation does then see how the field looks on or if you return.

    But for now my trying to bring some positivity back to world. Especially for those who feel forgotten at times.
    I hope I haven’t offended you or anyone else with my recent comments about no friends etc.
    Guess if I find a workaholic like me then you’d have a friend forever:).
    I don’t talk about the TV or Holidays,,no no I just want to work to help others.

    Ya see Jplayz at this age without a Job a man needs a purpose. Why TSW and this Project means everything to me.
    It’s all I’ve got because I’m committing more than time. I’m devotion my life to what I love.

    Creating for that’s all my mind does. Build.
    A man like you that shares some personal traits yet with a heart for art and design should know this.
    Nothing will ever come between my love for those things.

    Love keeps the heart pumping:)
    It’s why I believe the world needs love. Not love in relationships sense of the word.
    No, I mean love for what we do and what we can accomplish together with a passion for making the world a better place.
    Love builds. Not take down.

    That’s why I’ll never give energy to an argument for that where hate and resentment is born, and if it means being alone to keep my peace then I’ll happily sit here on my own. I’ll have more time to enjoy my passion then.
    Yet someone had the bright idea of getting a third Cat. I’ve forgotten what peace is, aha ha.


     
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    Well speak of the Devil:)

    Hey look man, I fully appreciate your sharing the progress on work that must seem like a long journey now. It’s been a while since you came onboard many moons ago.

    I hope you can understand the way I’ve been recently, cautious about one or two things.
    Like I’ve just said to Jplayz I’ve learned my lessons.
    Moving forward with this project in a positive direction is what I’d like to see after all this time and upset.

    I’d like to say publicly that what you see from TTB is all his work with no direction for me. (Keeping to the original arrangements that means you TTB remained as a team member contributing as an individual outside of the full team/ group set up.
    Therefore I’d like to say TTB or Tom deserves all credit for the work he shares here on this thread.

    And on a personal note I’d do want to say thank you Tom.
    Thanks for sticking at what you set out to do. After all that’s gone on in recent months then it’s a real honour and privilege to have you still part of R200. I’m sure Jplayz will share his pleasure on hearing this news.
    I can now do something about his concerns.

    If you want some information about stock from me or from others then I know Jimbo and more recently WaveyDavey Class 66 DB would be nice to see used providing WaveyDavey would be happy at this suggestion.

    So new batch of class 43s. New look and to the original theme intended as GBR was just a tie over.
    These would have been available sooner if things went to plan.

    I’m very concerned about players having Ai off or having system perform issues like lagging that come with high demand decal liveries.
    I’d like this to be used when a play wishes to use Ai without lagging.
    So no rolling stock is currently planned yet matching rolling stock for the current PC sets will have matching stock. Ie White has been done for some time. IMG_5236.jpeg
    The new set will be colour matched and compatible with existing in game GWR stock.
    I do have formations set up so I can release those that would make life any easier. You let me know what works best for you.

    What you see from me is me creating work with no intention or demands on you to include any of my work.
    As long as what you and the team bring is something exciting new or interesting for others either to be involved with or have fun with, then that’s all is what matters.
    If you are like you say still in this till the very end then if your still up for it then there’s plans. This is where Jplayz work and person can hopefully join back up when all shorted out.

    We’re getting there slowly but surly. I’ll be in contact soon via our open DMs. But first I need some sleep.
    I’m running out match sticks and tooth picks:)

    This is brilliant news tho. Well done man.

    Rigsby.
     

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