Expansion Expert Db Br 101 Gameplay Pack Feedback Thread

Just bought the game pack first scenario (interfere)about 5mins into and it ctd. Great start.

 

Ctd?

 

Crashed to desktop.

 

Why is there no sounds for sifa alarms. And my God its so blurry.

 

Im on xbox x.

The crash was before I took control of the train.

Yes very blurry. (Everything inside and outside) .

Expert 101 and cabcar.

Do you need more info.

 

You ca hear SIFA only inside the cab. This is a bug for sure
Or you was in cab? So yes... Than i have no clue this bug is new to me

 

Only hearing SIFA inside the cab also happens on the original expert 101, so this might be deliberate to make it feel like more of a simulation than if you are looking around outside

 

I agree with f__s_cw that this is one locomotive that you are to treat as "the real thing". The sifa alarm is not supposed to be heard outside the cab, and to properly run this expert 101 you need to stay in the driver's seat as you move along.

 

If you're being completely honest, a locomotive that you're sitting inside can't be seen from the outside anyway, so whether it's realistic or not is just a matter of opinion The point is that it's not currently there, and I wouldn't mind if it were audible so that everyone can choose the game as they prefer. Whether the SIFA is audible from outside doesn’t make much of a difference

 

Anyone played this on PS5 yet? The comments from dal#7945 seem rather damning.

Between the unplayable Frankfurt expert timetable (on PS5) and the rather disappointing state of the E94 pack, I feel a bit burned by TSGs’ quality control at this point.

 

Hi Harry I'm tried taking pictures but you cant really see cause light is bouncing of the tv so looks like a bight blob. And I have all German routes. DTG Harry

 

Actually I turned of 2 layers and only some blurring in a tunnel. DTG Harry

 

I've only had one crash and that was doing the interference scenario.

 

No but then it never crashed with layers on i have tried that scenario again with layers off and it still crashed in the same place. Just before you take over the train. DTG Harry

 

I am having my first run of the new timetable on PS5 Pro, albeit in the 411 ICE-T and not the 101.
Leaving Würzburg was fine up until Fulda where quite a variation of AI was. Immediatley the blurred textures started. I had to save, exit and go back in to get rid of them.

Edit: No further blurry textures after the restart. Was passed by a 101 with an IC, and at least 2 ICE‘s on the way to Kassel. Kassel was quiet though with only a 114 leaving with an RB

 

No matter how frustrating, you could see this coming from a mile away. There are so many active layers here especially in Würzburg. I think this should have been tested more thoroughly. I don’t want to accuse anyone personally, but it’s surprising that this issue occurred literally on the first run, and that DTG/TSG didn’t catch it. Or is this another case of the dev-kit story? If so, then maybe try buying a regular version you’ll immediately notice something’s off. I understand that things don’t always go as planned, but this is becoming a frequent problem.

In my opinion, for Gen9 it would be wise to set separate layer requirements. It’s not fun, but with all these bugs, it’s even less so. Still, I understand that this might not do the reputation much good.

I find it strange that even during the preview I thought this might become a problem, and yet DTG/TSG didn’t see it coming?! Sorry, but this is honestly starting to get a bit ridiculous.

 

Of course they saw it coming, that’s why they don’t mention it. Gen9 will be in the same boat as gen8 before long, in terms of layers.

 

Am I remembering correctly, the expert 101 does not work with the Rail Driver. It sure isn't with the new download. I got this dlc for the increased tt and not the 101.

 

That's not very optimistic.....I assume you have all layers active?

 

Keep in mind he said he has the problem while playing an scenario. Scenarios do not work the same way as the 24h timetables. In scenarios everything is scripted, and only the trains needed are added. If consoles have memory problems with scenarios, you can guess the 24h timetable will be a nightmare.

 

Not sure if this is since this update, but when driving the cabcar in a snowstorm, the right window gets wiped on the movement of the left wiper.
I made a video of it:


this is ludwigsbahn, i'm on epic so don't have the gameplay pack

 

No, that depends on the choice made by the creator of the scenario, and in this case, layers from the timetable mode were chosen instead of manually filled layers. So in this case, it's the same as what you see in the timetable mode.

 

Also why is there no 11 car ice on this timetable.

 

dal#7945 ICE LDV or 11 wagon sets are not present in 2018. They refurbished this trains recently. So in 2018 there was no sets with 11 coaches/LDV

 

Ok thanks mate.

 

No, this is not new. It has been there for quite some time and somehow didn’t make it in the last patch…

 

On PS5, build number 1882, when driving expert 101, there was blurring of textures. And the weather was clear.

 

Yes, all German content active and the Austrian ÖBB 1116 which I saw at Fulda.

 

Thank you for the crash report. We were able to narrow down the cause to a missing revision of the BR 101 Expert DLC (it seems to be running an older version on public builds and the gameplay pack is referencing functions that do not exist in that revision causing a crash).

If anyone owns the gameplay pack on Steam I would be interested to know if they experience the same crash on the Interference scenario or if it is a console only issue.

 

First of all, I want to give credit to the TSG Team.
The new timetable is a nice addition and finally brings life in to KWG. But the scenarios are the highlight for me. As someone from the real german railway the scenarios are finally realistic and challenging. They are by far the best in game for me.
Now let’s get to the negative points.
I know TSG can’t do anything about it but the blurry textures destroying the experience (again).
Performance isn’t that good as well and KWG still has old issues like leafs hanging from the tunnel or flying signs.
Sadly this gameplay pack is a further good quality dlc which suffers from the bad Tsw5 core.

Greetings from a Ps5 player

 

Absolutely amazing! I am actually having difficulties deciding what to do first... As the Ebula Tool that I am using has the new timetable already incorporated the first service I am driving is a TT service and not one of the scenarios. What better to use then one of the high speed parcel express freight trains... I love details like that AFB limits the train to 120kph under PZB and then sets the speed up to 140 once taken onto LZB.

So far I have not encountered any issues. Loving it

 

I have completed this scenario without it crashing. On PS5

 

On PC (steam) no issues here. And this addon is so cool thanks for the hard work

 

Thanks to all who have reported back on the state of PS5 gameplay. I was cautiously optimistic after the E94 pack didn’t have blurry textures, but it’s disheartening to hear this one does. At least it doesn’t seem to crash unlike Expert Frankfurt - Fulda.

I’d love to play the scenarios as I’m sure they actually approach reality here, but I’m not yet sure if I’m willing to put up with yet another blurry timetable.

TSG, please take console testing to heart.

 

Freight service DGS 69163 Hamburg Waltershof - Nürnberg Hafen (Part 1) starting at 1:32 has no "(Part 2)" service in the timetable.


PS: It seems the service actually goes from Kassel to Wurzburg when you play it, but the route map shown in the service selection screen incorrectly shows it ends at Burgsin Bbf. My guess is it was a 2 part service at some point but it was modified to be a single service before release. It just needs the map updated and the (Part 1) removed from the name.

 

While testing the service Freight service DGS 69163 Hamburg Waltershof - Nürnberg Hafen (Part 1) starting at 1:32, I found out that if you use the DB (Red) Vectron in this route it will only give you the "safety systems off" points for playing because it incorrectly thinks that you need to enable ATB in Germany to get the full points.

ATB is the safety system used in Netherlands, and obviously there is no way to use it in a standard german route.

 

The DB Vectron only collecting points without safety systems is a general DB Vectron bug on all routes. At least I have this issue everywhere I drive this loco…

 

Thats a bug that exists since this loco has become ATB as an update.

 

Played my first scenario ("Störung" no idea what it is called in the english translation), which worked without issues. The first time I dont have anything to complain about a scenario, which I dont really play alot on standard DLCs.

I have a question to the new physics model of the 101, though. I love this and it definately feels "right", if I can even say this, not driving trains for a living... however, I have also noticed that there is basically no difference anymore between driving outside or inside a tunnel. Obviously you never know which of the tunnels where actually configured correctly during the development of KWG, however, I do remember, driving many freight trains at TSW3 times through these tunnels, that many of them are set up correctly as "tunnels" and the slipping stopped once you entered the tunnel. While I would assume that it is realistic to not have a sudden "completely dry" feeling once you enter a tunnel, I would certainly expect the slipping to get less during a ceratin amount of time driving within the tunnel, no?!

Maybe someone of the devs could elaborate on this a little more?!

 

PS5

I've done two TT Sevices yesterday, one in the Expert 101, one in the 411. Both full Route.

There are blurry textures but it wasn't that bad tbh. Most of the AI trains were free of the blurry mess on my end. But occasionally you get those, it's definitely not worse than on other routes for sure.

The performance is what you would expect, not as smooth as the 2022 TT but absolutely okay from my perspective. I had all available Layers active, i think I've got them all except Semmeringbahn with the 1116.

The Expert 101 was always pretty heavy on performance on Console no matter what. Its another superb DLC thats plaqued by Core issues. But in my honest view its absolutely worth it.

 

DTG and TSG NO thanks for this AWFUL experience, luckily just few bucks... XBOX X ofc....

 

Those texture issues, picture 1&4 are not bugs but a issue with your'e console. Those issues are a result of not enough free texture loading space.
And whats wrong with picture 3?

Edit: picture 3 the same a console texture issue

 

Its like that on my Xbox x it's not an issue with xbox x because most xbox x players have the same issue. Its ro with optimisation. Have no problems with other games.

 

Two more BIG GAME BREAKING BUGS

Scenario Diversion at Kassel Oberzwehren
if you accidentally fall off the platform you can't climb back up

Scenario Rescue:
After coupling with the stranded train it is impossible to enter the revised train data (BRH) into the computer
if you dial 20, you get 30, pics enclosed
is beta testing a thing, or am i being too old?