Loco Class 380 - Feedback Thread

Discussion in 'Player Feedback' started by DTG Jamie, Jul 11, 2024.

  1. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, Thank God I Have No Plans Whatsoever To Buy This Loco......
    (No offence to anybody who disagrees or thinks that I Presented this in a wrong way)
     
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  2. NorthLondoner125

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    I do not understand how a patch aimed at improving a loco messes up one another, just recently the Class 350 had a patch on fixing the exterior hazard lights bug with the breaks being messed up again, even worse than the previous patch.
     
  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Software does that.

    Although there's a certain extent to how far you let it slide before it becomes more than that.
     
  4. NorthLondoner125

    NorthLondoner125 Well-Known Member

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    Had a go with a run on the 380, it seems the patch didn't work. The breaks are still too over powered as previously. Unless I've missed something?
     
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  5. OldVern

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    Oh dear… I was thinking of trying that later, to get one of the Mastery scenarios done but not touching it if the brakes are still borked.
     
  6. Scotrail170

    Scotrail170 Well-Known Member

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    Decided to take the 380 for a spin after the latest patch on an ECS run from Shields Depot to Glasgow Central, only to be met with an oncoming AI 380 with the doors still open on my way to Central Station.


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    Service was 5M74 (part 2), I done part one from the depot to the Shields reverse point and continued right into part 2.

    Platform is PC, Steam.
     
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  7. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Lol.
     
  8. OldVern

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    Just out of curiosity I started a scenario with the 380 last night, the rather silly one where you have to keep the brakes warm in the snow. Yep, sure as eggs is eggs, applied about 8% brake on the PBC and the thing pretty much stood on its nose. So either the fixes weren’t pushed with the last patch or the changes were so minuscule as to make no difference.
     
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  9. TrackingTrains

    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    The next stop on TMS seems to be the next next stop. 1259 EDB to GLQ showed Falkirk High on departure from EDB, but it should he Haymarket
     
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  10. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Same issue on the class801 TMS
     
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  11. EchoKilo

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    Quite enjoying the Class 380, apart from the insanely powerful brakes. Hope there'll be a fix on the way to rectify that.
    Apart from the brake issue, while driving from Newton to Glasgow (2nd run on 'Bustling Branches' chapter in the Class 380 (2024 time table) Journey Mode (Service 2M71)) I noticed an AI service 2N02 being stuck as 'Off Path' at Pollokshields East platform 2, causing several other AI services to get stuck at red signals behind it. Fortunately, the jam didn't affect the service I was driving. After finishing my run, I went ahead and removed the stuck train and everything seemed to move smoothly after that again. It'd be great if DTG could implement a logic in the game which would automatically recognize such stuck services and remove them to keep the AI traffic (and possibly player) moving.

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  12. eMAyTeeTee

    eMAyTeeTee Well-Known Member

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    Was doing a Glasgow to Edinburgh run with the 380 on Skyhook's 158 timetable for Edinburgh Glasgow and found a couple issues with the 380 after saving, shuttling off the console and then reloading the save;

    *The destination display went from saying "Edinburgh Waverly" to "Not In Service", although this fixed itself after departing Falkirk High.
    *I noticed after reloading the gangways were retracted (although I can't say for certain they were correct before)
     
  13. astafic#8452

    astafic#8452 Well-Known Member

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    Is there any news on a patch for the brakes?
     
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  14. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    If only. Unfortunately I think this loco has been abandoned by dtg
     
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  15. astafic#8452

    astafic#8452 Well-Known Member

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    Surprised? No.
    Disappointed? Yes.
     
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  16. OldVern

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    Just fired up the 380 on Cathcart for a quick electric bus stop and see nothing has been done to tame the braking performance. For god’s sake DTG, this thing is in full service at 5%, anything more than that and the driver is going through the windscreen. Impossible to do a gentle stop or slight application to trim speed. Needs a serious nerf and desensitising.
     
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  17. astafic#8452

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    Once again looks like a forgotten loco and likely wont receive a second glance because "all hands on deck!" for TSW6.
     
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  18. Sharon E

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    I can add to this thread; this EMU does not like the Rail Driver. I did the calibration twice and could not get the throttle/brake handle to respond in fine enough increments to be useable. I do have one positive thing to say about the 380, the doors do actually respond to platform length and not open the doors of cars off the platform.
     
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  19. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I just fired this up on Glasgow to Edinburgh and God the brakes so fierce you almost go through the window the make the 350 look calm lol.
     
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  20. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    It's the usual calm before the next TSW-storm, It'll be a miracle if any patch is coming soon.
     
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  21. OldVern

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    It ruins what is otherwise quite a nice train, particularly the sound set - as I said far better than the dire 385.

    Sorry but I do feel a ping to the CM’s coming on… DTG Alex DTG Jamie DTG Harry is there any chance this could be revisited as the braking is plain wrong.
     
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  22. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I really enjoy driving this train its just them brakes.
     
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  23. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree. It's perfectly fine just the Physics.
     
  24. Strat-tastic

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    I took the 380 for a spin last night. Cathcart was just like Brands Hatch! :cool:
     
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  25. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    It takes off like a rocket and you brake slightly and get whiplash
     
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