PC Tsw6 - 200 Years Of Trains. Coincidence?

That era's underrepresented even in TS. I'd love to see more from it, but the market doesn't seem to be there. Then again, it's become popular in the last few years in model railways, so there is a chance.

 

I think the new TSW6 Have something to do with the poll that we were given to give feedback to them, which include question like what would we as a fan would like to see added or improve in the game sometime early this year, because Matt have not announced the result of that feedback survey. Now that we are getting so close to TSW 6, i am just curious about what the train community or rail fan have choose as their top priority feature or changes that they would like to see based on the poll. I think some of the ideas and choice, was new game modes such as dispatcher- dispatch train in tower, there was also something about multiplayer, add on layers to routes, able to change to another train route on the same map with out going out to the main screen, longer routes for commuter train, train announcements in station and on the train, more realistic train sound like clickely clack, and etc. I don't remember the rest. If anyone remember this survey or was able to get a snapshot of it and post it it would really help.

 

Aww, this thread got a mention in this video by TSS

 

What are your trying to say?

 

Football Manager 26 is coming in November, so I think TSW6 will have a Scottish route with Class 26s.

The Big Gathering for 200 years of UK railways is not the only big rail event this year. Three franchises have been nationalised as the return to publicly owned railways begins. DTG may ignore both and do their own thing, I think that's the most likely outcome for TSW6.

 

That isn't a big thing. The franchises have expired and been given to the Operator of Last Resort. The management is the same, and some of the OLR-run franchises are worse than when they were privately run. The process has been happening the several years already. Great British Railways, the organisation that is supposed to manage the railway, doesn't even exist yet.

 

Not to mention Southeastern, LNER, Northern and Transpennine Express basically already were nationalised

 

It's still a running joke among my friends that I'm actually a vampire, to explain not only how I still get ID'd for drinks at my age, but also all the trivia I have on historical stuff like the railways. Any time I bring up some kind of historic inaccuracy, the standard go-to is for one of them to chime in about how I was there.

 

Southeastern from my experience has only got worse since the OLR took over. I know that Northern and TPE are still problematic but I don't know to what extent.

 

I caught a 30 minutes late TPE 185 the other week. Station announcements blamed "a problem with this train". Guard apologised over the PA blaming an EMR service in front having issues. No idea who is wrong and is right. The service in front was an hour + late.

Think the latest I've personally been on a Northern train is about 15 due to "unavailability of train crew". Main issue with Northern is all the two car trains

 

Fair point, for those of us who worked on the railway when it was privatised, the return of franchises to public ownership (rather than TOCs being terminated and reverting to the Operator of Last Resort) is a bigger thing than for general rail enthusiasts, especially younger ones who didn't experience the BR era.

 

But again, until GBR exists as an organisation nothing has actually changed. We have no idea when it's going to happen, so until then we're still using the old franchising system. But of course, every franchise is run (or going to be) by the OLR.

 

No not hand made models. They could be done as special one off models based off fictional liveries to raise money.
Some companies have started to do this. What I mean is if DTG focused on routes, Hornby would have all the model data needed or the moulding process. They use computers to build a model first before using the data to program CNCs etc for new cast.
So basically any model that Hornby has ever produced will have some data or models built. Hornby to make hard version is no problem because all the cast ever made are kept still. Mostly in China now Yet again I’m not talking about hard models.

The idea is for Hornby would be to use this data to build new models or enter the games console market due to the decline in the model railway industry. Yes it wouldn’t take a week, nor be easy. But the idea of Hornby switching from models to computers to console markets is key.

So Picture this. Hornby DTG and Mattel. Game, My first railway. Kids drive Thomas and friend in the land of Sodor.
The market strategy of getting children interested and involved with DTG and Hornby very early on.
It’s just an idea not reality.

So yes I might sound delusional but how else would things get built

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If you follow some of my work for RW200 and now Both RW200 and SD&R200. Then I’ve tried to blend many old historical locomotives names and past BR brandings. For me that has great respect for the men and women that came later on into BR with ‘Karen Harrison’ I named a loco in here honour. I’ve just recently released a class 47 called ‘Wilston Samuel Jackson’.

You will see I am trying to blend to old with the new. I have work arranged for LMS and LNER steam locomotives, names etc.
All done in a modern yet tasteful style or theme to represent the past to appeal to younger generations of today.

You have a very strong point, and one that for me personally who holds great respect for the work ethic of the past.
I watch many hours of historical video of 1930s railway workers. The casting mills and factory with men still smoking a pipe at 70.
In a dusty factory casting and hammering steel in to drive rods. I pay great attention to their work ethic be building trains at the Vulcan Foundries at Newton le Willows, I past many times in my younger day’s wondering what went on there.

Then the men that drove this machines literally blind due to the lack of safety systems or poor visibility of signals caused foggy conditions.
Which was quite problematic due to the heavy use of coal industrial Britain.
All this I feel is a great way to bring the past into the future in a way this generation might find interesting.
Especially for those that enjoy today’s modern traction. They can’t relate to things 200 years ago or even like such weak looking machines.
So this is why with most of the work I’m currently working on is all aimed towards making the past a part of today to inspire the next generations of drivers. Even now I get scared thinking about hurtling along at 100mph on a might steam loco, the buzz and ba#ls to do such a job takes my breath away.

Today’s generations aren’t to bothered about the past that much. I don’t think that’s right and why my aim is to make a change.
Make my work modern yet tasteful enough to respect those people you speak of that worked on the railways in away that today’s generation can understand a little more about the past.

It would be completely unfair to remove any of those people and their lives from history.
Why well it’s part of our culture and heritage of Great Britain. A time of being proud, of days gone by but not forgotten.
Because in someways it’s our identity and we must never forget what Britain use to be. Great.

Great because of the work ethic and respect of those men of the past.
The people of Great Britain.

I wasn’t there but I miss them, why I watch those kind of videos or movies. A simpler time.
Manners and respect. The foreman and the new apprentice, “Av you got your book”!, “Yes Sir”. “Good lad, you can’t do anything without the book, right on you go”. Off to scrub and clean locomotives, even dropping the fire box. Dirty work but they got on with it no moaning just tougher men than now

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The CAD data used to produce model trains simply isn't detailed enough to be used in a train simualator. Not only that, they're almost certainly incompatible anyway - and even if they were, the time taken to implement them into a train simulator with physics and sounds would still make it an inconceivable project.

 

You say "nothing has actually changed" but then add that franchises are now (or will start to be) run by the OLR. I would certainly agree that "nothing tangible is different at present".

This may not pass your very specific definition of "change" but as I said "for those of us who worked on the railway when it was privatised" it's a bigger deal. That's how me and my former colleagues feel. You can't tell us how to feel about being vindicated that Privatisation was, in the way it was structured, a bad idea. Perhaps you didn't live through the horror of seeing our warnings about safety being compromised coming true at Potters Bar, Hatfield, Southall and Ladbroke Grove and therefore have no skin in the game.

 

I agree fully, You could say the data for models or to cast new mould plates is there but not to the standards for a model in a game.
This is where I will agree my experience or knowledge on how computers work will let me down.
But with the idea how easy could that be done if it was to be a fully blown project. Could a small independent team be set up to investigate.
Would the idea be commercially viable for any company to spend time and resources.

I don’t know and why I only have ideas. Like most things in life someone has an idea but it takes others to make it happen.
All the talk here of the opportunity or timing of TSW6 and Septembers 200 Year festival, and other topics of a new IP.
There is so much that could be done.

So yes I agree that it might take time, yet it’s been many months since I first mentioned anything about DTG and Hornby working together.
Great for the industry and PR. Allows Hornby to enter a new market sector while providing fans with decent add on packs from a rebuttal branding. Create new jobs even within Hornby. Working with other artists or small start up teams. It could help Jobs in the local community.
I could go on but ideas are just that.

I see a bigger picture of Real TOCs working with companies like DTG, as a way to train or introduce individuals not only to the game but as way for people enter the rail industry. Something I know Avanti are doing with new recruitment ads. Could Avanti work and promote TSW.
Do a special addition Training pack or something.
New game IP. Working with Mettel to create my first train set. Thomas themed like I mentioned aimed at the younger audience.
This gets them into trains and TSW. Would this give a child the opportunity to follow their passion to one day become a driver.
Again this would benefit the rail industry.
Once tired to a hobby or interest then TSW would be a key part, so the opportunity for more sales as the individual grows.
Each time moving up in game difficulty. Ie Split the game market. Kids/ adults.

Just like Hornby did with model railway. Can that be brought to the TSW franchise.
Dads sharing their hobbies and interest with a child to both grow even form better relationships as it must be hard these days.
It’s why getting a child interested in something early on is key for a strong bond later on.
Football, Fishing, Or going to the TGG last weekend. Is that missing from games?.
If so why not build upon that.

So who knows, I very much doubt it happening because id sent emails to few companies, DTG Matt being the first.
But a little about me. All I do is think, non stop so ideas just roll. Which leads me to push to actually see what can be achieved.
Dream big even completely outlandishly.

What can be done, what can be accomplished, how big are people willing to go. Risk.
The risk is the fun.

You gotta to gamble big to win big. Because if one never plays the game they will never win nor lose.
They get nothing because some are not willing to take risk. Hence a person becomes nothing.

Business is a risky business or game to play, and why being one step or two steps head is always best.
Seize the opportunity now and make it happen before others do.
It takes risk but that’s the game. When to make the move.

Or to seize the opportunity when one arises. That would be now, or for me personally mouths ago.
A complete marketing and PR opportunity missed if DTG do nothing.

Mix it up give fans something different after all these years. Look at the possibilities the ideas and act before it’s too late.

Opportunity doesn’t come by often. And one that would be a shame for anyone to miss.

Rigsby.
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Hey there I’d like to say you’re bang on. I wasn’t there personally but one of my interests is change in man.

Change most happens due to the environment. Working being one. That work is governed by the big man, or boss.
These men also answer to higher up departments or governments bodies.
So looking at how BR was run then I’d say there’s been a lot of change. Massive changes.

The political climate even UK economy hit BR hard. All the backhanded Jobs or bent officials.
Ref to Monks and the money made from new road construction projects while the UK rail network got hacked to death by the Axe.
Even today the network is divided by so many different private enterprises or investment firms wanting money back.
Does these effect drivers today even the conditions of the UK networks which is safety. I know the public pay to much money for these organisations and investors.

There’s been many changes and for some on a very deep personal level.
But one thing hasn’t, poor management of the UK rail infrastructure overseen by a government that like then never cared or taken responsibility or leadership.
Many people lost their lives even left with personal trauma for years all because any kind of body didn’t listen.

It’s a mess then and still is. And I’d actually love to sit down with a driver to see how they feel about working in today’s rail industry.
In my experience there’s no better judge than the person on the job in the real world.
Not sat behind a desk, planning blindly.

The real men and woman facing all the challenges day in day out.

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