Where's the connection? The BR101 Expert scenario pack for Kassel Würzburg is no longer available on the Epic platform. Coincidence? I don't think so.
For those who don't have the FAQ on hand: At least further content isn't being removed, but this isn't a win in any category other than ever so slight better communication of "hey, these are coming, but they wont be on launch"
Many of these additions are 3rd party routes which arguably should have been in the original cut as sd if the best routes in TSW
I guess they are willing to have low priority on Epic for some reason, and decided to not bother to set up them all at launch.
Since this appears to be a legal and not technical limitation, I wonder if this is an interesting clue as to what is going on. Maybe Epic need a release for every add on or something and someone is playing hardball?
Goodness me, now not only Epic doesn't get the full list, now even that curated list gets stuff cut at launch. This is literally beating a dead horse. What next? TSW 7 Epic Games gets no DLC transferred at all? This is outrageous! But also, not surprising at this point. I've said what I wanted to say, and well, there's not much else to do at this point on my behalf, honestly, after all I've tried to do.
It's frightening that there still is no official DTG answer that says that they're working on it and will provide some solution. only the 'if at all'... DTG Matt DTG-Chris sorry for the ping
I don't think you'll hear anything until/if there is a solution because of how reliant DTG are on Epic. The former is never gonna slag the latter off (might literally not be able to cause of UE licence, I've no clue but if I were an evil corporate lawyer I'd totally be putting non disparagement clauses in it). The thing is sooooooo murky. That's why I am genuine in my suggestion to go out with DTG lads, get them smashed, and find out what has actually gone on. I would encourage continuing to make noise about it in the meantime though. Then DTG can point at the noise to Epic and say "cut your shenangians fellows! look at how the peons grumble!". I am 99% sure it's not a technical problem though (and I won't change my mind even if they come out afterwards and claim it was, unless they at least describe the nature of said problem; they've never said themselves it is a technical issue anyway, someone here just assumed it and it grew legs).
I don't care who slags of who (learned a new word there). The message from DTG should be "we're working on a solution' That message is not there at this moment. (if at all). Without this message (already missing the 101), epic stops for me.
And if that is finding a solution against a 3rd party Epic who doesn't want to change, other options should be made available.
It's going to be interesting if the content that isn't moving on epic games if that content will be left behind in bug fixing, Remasters (ifvit happens) and new dlc (loco and Gameplay packs) hopefully it won't
Yep, that is the way to do it. New DLC pack every year that is a better deal than buying separate DLCs, and put the main game on sale to bring it up on the charts. While that's the right way to do it, chances Dovetail will change strategies now are slim to none. As I said in a previous post, if I can't collect DLC for this game with the assumption it will continue to work on future versions, my purchases will be severely limited. Seeing that the licenses for some thing expired is concerning. The EGS situation - I hate the EGS and don't feel very sorry for users of it, but that is concerning as well.
See, that's just victim blaming. Yes, some of us were understandably wary of it and the people behind it, but many just saw a valid alternative to the likes of Steam. The surge of giveaways were obviously a mechanism for building investment and a customer base willing to perhaps spend money eventually, but that's how you compete in an already heavily monopolised market. For most people who don't follow all the news surrounding the backdrop to the fairly public legal battles and the like, they have no reason not to take Epic's sincerity on things at face value. If they lose out as a consequence of doing so, it's not their fault. The blame lies with the people who took that stuff away.
Maybe you don't know much about the history of Epic Games Store vs. Steam. Epic games leveraged their huge profits from Fortnite to basically force a number of games to be Epic exclusives for a year. I don't want to use Epic. I like Steam. Epic doesn't have reviews or discussions, at least last I checked. Epic screwed me over trying to establish itself. And they are rich. I totally disagree with Epic in their position against propriety stores. They are just greedy billionaires. They aren't fighting for anyone but themselves. They don't want to pay their share to the dominant stores. These "monopoly" stores actually serve everyone best, Apple's App Store, Steam, whatever. If someone wants to compete with them that's fine (except on locked hardware which I also think is fine although there are some good arguments against it), but using dirty tactics that screw over consumers isn't going to win any sympathy from me. As someone who has sold apps on such stores, I always appreciated the opportunity to use an established platform. Epic is just plain greedy. They are already the dominant game engine and have one of the by far most profitable (and easy to develop) games. Maybe "I don't feel very sorry for users" is the wrong way to put it. I have a hard time generating a lot of sympathy for people who have participated in this Epic Game Store thing, but I would certainly feel angry if it were me who were losing DLC content.
Yes, but that's no reason to not feel at least some sympathy for any users they screwed over along the way. Customers who simply didn't have the kinds of broader awareness of the bigger picture that you and I do, and who as a result bought into it where we held off. Not everybody has enough time to remain constantly up to date on everything surrounding all of their hobbies.
So I'm sure you wouldn't feel bad if steam pulled the plug either, or maybe xbox or playstation. Take whatever issue with the platform you will, its been well established many epic users (including myself) got into TSW with the weekly free games that epic offers, most aren't of interest, occasionally you get a known game like GTA, sometimes there's a game that gains your interest, like TSW2, sometimes one of those games interests you enough to buy DLCs for the game, and the collection grows from there. The platform you play on should not determine what kind treatment you get, hardware allowing
Exactly, I've certainly no clue what Epic is supposed to have done that was obviously wrong (and still don't tbh since The Real Casey Jones has basically just assumed we all do). Somehow screwed him over is all I've gathered.
That's how I discovered TSW. Only played it a little, but liked what I saw, then got TSW3 late on in its cycle in a Steam sale, mistakenly thinking my TSW2 routes in Epic would transfer over. So I rebought my TSW2 stuff on Steam eventually in sales. But for that TSW3 mistake, I might be on Epic rather than Steam.
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The free TSW2 on Epic Games in July of 2021 is how I got into it too. I waited a long time before popping on any DLC because I wasn't sure if it would be better to build my collection on Epic Games or Steam. When the christmas time sale came and the deals were the same on both stores I figured I would save the 6 bucks of buying TSW2 on Steam and started buying DLC on Epic. Four years and 45 add-ons later I seem to have come to a dead end with TSW if nothing changes. DW
If I upload the files for the "Ruhr Sieg Nord" and "Rhein-Ruhr Osten" routes to the game, will they not work? I need to complete 100% of the routes before I upgrade to TSW6.
What a slap right into the face of all paying customers on epic. Its time dtg release tsw steam only for pc players. Never trusted this third class shabby shop platform. What a joke. My last interaction with it was the uninstall button 7 years ago.
