Class 220/802 Free Roam Routes

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  1. wayneharris#2801

    wayneharris#2801 New Member

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    What routes are you looking forward to driving the Class 220 and also the 802 on after the full release on Setpember 30th 2025.

    Personally i am looking forward to driving the 220 as an 8 Car unit in an 4+4 setup on the Fife and Leven Route doing services between Level and Edinburgh.

    I am going to try my remake the Crosscountry 2025 Livery for both the 220 and also the 802 I hve made the Crosscountry 2025 Livery on the 801 9 Car set which i believe i uploaded for the Community to enjoy.
     
  2. 85hertz

    85hertz Well-Known Member

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    On BML.

    Maybe on GWE for the lolz
     
  3. wayneharris#2801

    wayneharris#2801 New Member

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    I would use the Class 220 and Class 802 on the below routes
    Fife and Leven
    Midland Mainline: Leicester - Derby/Nottingham
    East Coast Mainline: Doncaster - Peterborough
    West Coast South
     
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  4. flirt745

    flirt745 Well-Known Member

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    I am looking forward to using them on a few routes including the ones listed below.

    ECML Doncaster - Peterborough
    WCML South
    Brighton Main Line
    Fife Circle and the Leven branch.
     
  5. Gianluca

    Gianluca Well-Known Member

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    I will drive the 802 in SEHS for power change at Ebbsfleet
     
  6. tootyhoot

    tootyhoot Well-Known Member

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    Are they not going to layer this unit into backwards routes? I mean they do it for everything German.
     
  7. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    German trains have the benefit of substitution, on a much wider scale than UK stuff.

    Very hard to sub in new UK trains when they’re all varying lengths & ToC’s. They basically nearly always require a new layer.

    For the 220 & 802 there are currently 0 substitution options.
     
  8. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to hope the 220 would appear on Birmingham cross-city, as the timetable pack for that route was fairly recent and they must have been aware of the 220 while developing it.
     
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  9. yambam#1598

    yambam#1598 Active Member

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    Maybe the 158 for leven timetable was delayed into tsw 6 as to include the 220 between Edinburgh and Markinch?
     
  10. tootyhoot

    tootyhoot Well-Known Member

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    The 220 can be added to a lot of UK TT’s as they run just about everywhere. I don’t just want to drive it on those routes in Free Roam, I want to see it as ai traffic as well.
     
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  11. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    They should be adding trains which aren’t in the game yet to the files when making a timetable

    or basically just have services for when the train needed is added and that would save time
     
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  12. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Well-Known Member

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    Hard to disagree with that. I also don't buy all this "We'd have to rebuild the timetable from scratch", since when the AI services were added to the Birmingham Crosscity, the timetable creator made a copy of the old one and added in the extra services.
     
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  13. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah
     
  14. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed but that doesn’t really happen for German trains either, it just seems that way as they can substitute more.
     
  15. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    They don't do it for everything German, it's just substitution given you have lots of trains that can do similar things - mainly with the many electric freight locos.

    The ICEs, IC trains and DMUs don't appear on routes before they were released, even where they have many services.
     
  16. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    On the subject of Cross-city, they must have known the Voyager was coming when they released the new timetable, so it would have been sensible to add these services in preparation. It's been done before.
     
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  17. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Well-Known Member

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    They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't pre-plan for it.
     
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  18. DTG Jamie

    DTG Jamie Community Manager Staff Member

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    Yes make sure you take plenty of screenshots of the 220 and 802 when you take them on other routes :)
     
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