I think that DTG should add Flying Scotsman in her 1980's guise for the following routes - WCML Preston to Carlisle, Blackpool Branches, and (as of September 12th, 2025) the up and coming WCML Preston to Crewe routes. This pack could come with: 2 scenarios for the WCML Preston to Carlisle route Flying Scotsman in her 1980's railtour guise updated MK1 coaches (BSO, TSO, FO, FK, SK, RMB, BSK) Headboards for 4472 (top lamp iron)
My ideas for the scenarios: 1. Scotsman Savior A Class 87 has failed due to maintenance issues. Take Scotsman out of Carnforth MPD and bring the train to Carlisle. Time: 70 to 90 minutes Setting: Daytime, 12:30 2. Morecambe Dining A group of enthusiasts have chartered a special dining service bound for Morecambe. Take over the train and drive your way up their. Time: 70 to 110 minutes Setting: Sunset, 6:30 (18:30 if youre british)
Sorry to burst your bubble, but ain't going to happen. You're more likely to get eaten by a shark on Mars.
Do you enjoy telling people this?, like I see you comment on every steam post with similar stuff, like let us have hope yeah we know it’s not likely but we can still dream
1st - there are no sharks on Mars 2nd - How hard is it to modify the existing Flying Scotsman model? 3rd - there are no sharks on Mars 4th - Its just some more MK1 variants 5th - still no sharks on Mars
I don't think it was about difficulty, but will. DTG have repeatedly said that old routes and steam trains don't sell as well as modern routes. If the boss is going to give 4 months to develop a route, they'll want it to be the most profitable, and that'll be modern every time. This is where the sharks come in. Since the probability of being eaten by a shark on Mars is currently 0, it's a way of saying you'll never get the additional Flying Scotsman liveries. (Please ignore if you already knew and were simply adding to the joke; I often miss that). However, I will leave this comment here.
Definitely would love to see some new liveries and variants for Scotsman. Honestly, a route set in the days of the original LNER with the A3 class would be great! Keep speaking up about steam locomotives, they need to come back.
Difference is a livery would probably only take a week at most, hell some of them are just the design with different colours
Said company purposely did a half done job of steam hence lack of sales so really it’s on them and at this rate we will take anything steam related, a livery pack like this probably takes a week or two and would easily earn quite a bit, specially if they make the iconic apple green livery
As has been pointed out above, though, most TSW players want modern content. Whether or not that's because of the borked steam simulation is something we can only guess. But taking it at face value, steam isn't as popular. I mean, think about it: the majority of TSW's player base will have grown up with modern trains on modern routes, and will likely want to drive what they're familiar with (which is pretty much the only reason I own Fife Circle in the first place, because of the 170). Even I, who's only interested in trains because of a certain little blue tank engine, don't really like driving steam. Not because of the borked physics (I really can't tell if they're accurate or not), but because it genuinely doesn't interest me. But if DTG's surveys reveal there's not enough interest in steam then to them, even something as little as a new livery (which is more than just a paint job in Flying Scotsman's case) it isn't worth it. But as I said, whether or not that interest faded because of the current steam simulation is speculation.
If steam wasn’t popular all of them would have been scrapped by now but fun fact that’s not the case hell people pay for new steam locomotives to be built in real I Honestly think all this stuff about tsw players only really wanting modern is a bunch of lies said by the company so people will buy these sloppy modern routes it is genuinely so obvious that the two reasons why steam failed in tsw was because lack of good simulation and making a major route that was meant for many types of steam trains but only giving us two they should have started smaller than a mainline steam is far more profitable than you actually expect
I don't expect to be able to change your opinion, but debates are fun. Steam may be popular in real life, but in TSW it doesn't seem to be AS popular as modern routes. I believe most rebuilt locos have been through charity, rather than through business. DTG is no charity. Consider West Cornwall Local (or indeed any of Rivet's UK offerings). Their work isn't exactly good, but they keep making content and people keep buying them. Despite Berninalinie being a very well done route, they still prefer to do UK routes. DTG is a greedy company. They want all your money for minimal cost. They'll go exactly where that easy money is and it looks like it's in modern routes. If Steam really was a profitable as you say, why would DTG intentionally sabotage themselves with modern routes?
It’s probably a case where it costs more than average to make so they generally can’t be bothered paying a bit more to earn more and going off what they did with the br era content this seems to be true br content costed a bit more to make since you needed to go to the few that remain of certain classes to get audio and other reference materials hence why they only made a set few in the past just trains also just proves that br sells well and would probably be the same as steam if they had a different team to actually put in time and effort
Even if it costed more, if the profit was greater than it was for modern content I am sure that DTG would pursue older content. The fact that they don't suggests that modern content generates more profit, even if it generates less revenue. I doubt that their release cycle of 1 route DLC per year would be very sustainable for DTG (or for some players), though.
