What Next London Route What You Like To See

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by aaronthomas1a, Sep 6, 2025.

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  1. Midland Mainline out of St Pancras

    31 vote(s)
    16.9%
  2. Chatham Mainline out of Victoria

    13 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. Chilterns Mainline

    17 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Southwestern Mainline out of Waterloo

    48 vote(s)
    26.2%
  5. Great Eastern Mainline

    25 vote(s)
    13.7%
  6. Southeastern Mainline out of Charing Cross and Cannon Street

    16 vote(s)
    8.7%
  7. C2C Lines

    33 vote(s)
    18.0%
  1. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    I know it was outwith the OP (possibly) but for a purely “London” route, you can’t really ignore the Tube.

    Now various suggestions and time periods have popped up over the years but something like the Northern or Central Line in its entirety (and preferably pre ATO and modern stock) would give a quintessential “ London” experience. Even just the H&C and Circle Line similar to World of Subways could hit the spot.
     
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  2. Jon B

    Jon B Active Member

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    I’d love to see the Metropolitan line come to TSW at some point. I can imagine if Johannes at Incredible Trains teamed up with Just Trains to make it happen, that would be amazing.

    Another notable mention is for Hammersmith & City line as it would nicely connect with Suffragette, Bakerloo and GWE remaster.
     
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  3. mortal1234

    mortal1234 Well-Known Member

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    Metropolitan and Elizabeth line would be great.
     
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  4. FredElliott

    FredElliott Well-Known Member

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    Commonly known as the M25
     
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  5. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    I'd prefer not to have the Elizabeth Line as it's a clockface, all stations timetable. Yes there are two branches at the eastern end (there's also two on the Western end but we will never have Heathrow in the game) but there's no variation in the stopping pattern and the pretty much the same services during each hour of the day, tailing off a little in the evenings. Plus it's ATO in the core and the tunnels are single bore, both pretty boring driving conditions.

    Far better to have a fuller Great Eastern line and a remastered GWR (which is coming of course). A route hop from Liverpool Street to Paddington would more than make up for the 20 minutes of sitting looking at tunnels and pressing the door open/close button.
     
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  6. tootyhoot

    tootyhoot Well-Known Member

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    Just out of interest London alone has nearly double the population of the entirety of Scotland.
     
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  7. tootyhoot

    tootyhoot Well-Known Member

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    No that’s the London Orbital Car Park.
     
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  8. azzax333

    azzax333 Well-Known Member

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    First choice is pretty much any set route but I would love a little branch line or two or the Hounslow loop! With Hampton court would be the best lol,

    2nd choice would be the the entire c2c network apart from Liverpool Street unless the Devs want to go the extra mile
     
  9. dr1980

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    Waterloo to Guildford and beyond.
     
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  10. SUPERJOSH58

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    I'd love to see the Thameslink routes, ideally set circa 2015 to 2017 so we can have both class 700s and class 319s. London Blackfriars, orpington, Sevenoaks and more.
     
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  11. londontransportclips31

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    If we were including Underground lines then I'm going with the metropolitan. With the options on the poll my first choice is definitely the Chiltern Mainline, runs alongside the Underground for a bit, then you get variety of stock and interesting service patterns. My second choice would be the c2c network. This is one I would love to see in the game. My third choice would be the GEML, we would have a variety of stock plus we would have a section of the Elizabeth Line/ TfL rail depending on the time period.
     
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  12. uvm0902

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    We have had the Class 465 and Class 700 for a long time now but we still don't have a decent route for them with full mileage.
    I would be happy to get the Chatham or North Kent line.
    But in general for London I would be happy with any choice. All the routes are of great interest: Peterborough, Bedford, Chiltren, Ipswich, Woking, Reading, Southend, Sevenoaks, the Tube lines.
     
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  13. reallychummy

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    Some potentially lower hanging fruit would be the Chatham Main Line from Victoria to Rochester with the Catford Loop included for some variety.

    We have Victoria in game from BML and we could routehop to SEHS at Rochester.
     
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  14. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    None of them. I think a complete London Underground would sell very well. It'd be relatively easy to develop given it's mostly tunnels and there's a pretty big audience of UK players who would buy it since almost all of the UK has ridden them at one time or another.
    The whole system is only 250 miles in total, so in maybe 5 small, cheap DLC you could map it all out, reusing a lot of assets and expanding it easily. Plus "route hop" makes sense and it's easy to use stations as natural stopping points, unlike some maps where you stop basically in the middle of nowhere.
    Heck, have REAL cheap DLC and just do each colored line as an add on.
    Some like the green line are pretty long (40 miles ish?) But others like the Circle line are only maybe 14-15 miles.
    Given you can make them in half or 1/3 the time a "normal" route they'd be fast to come out with one team working on it and really cheap.
    Start with say the Circle line for $10 and build on from there.

    There's even some different in stock for different areas to be "authentic" if you want people to buy more DLC or to sell with each pack (the 1972 stock with the Bakerloo line like we have in game, but the Circle uses the S7 cars I think it is?) So you'd get a new set of cars with each DLC too and you could layer them all on one another because they can be swapped irl in case of a breakdown or something.

    If you want new features...well the new cars have wheelchair accessibility and you could have wheelchair NPCs to board and unboard.
    You can also catch people smoking/vaping in "Conductor" mode.
     
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  15. nwp1

    nwp1 Well-Known Member

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    Metropolitan and the Chiltern Line.

    Love to see Amersham and Uxbridge stations in the game as well as Beaconsfield and High Wycombe too.
     
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  16. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we definitely need some more 465 & 700 action. Throw in the 476 and 707 too while you’re at it :)
     
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  17. LazLong

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    55% of the Underground is above ground. I thought it would be higher before I checked. Of course that does vary by line.
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  18. reallychummy

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    I'm looking forward to the Waterloo & City Expert pack for £25
     
  19. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    Make sure you turn on the layers.
     
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  20. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    I'm assuming the Circle is included in the Hammersmith & City line there as there's no way 64% of Hammersmith to Barking direct is underground.
     
  21. LazLong

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    I copied the table from a TFL response to a FOI request. Now you mention it some of the distances look a bit off compared to other sources.

    FOI request detail - Transport for London
     
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  22. steve08

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    Should look at the 700 platforms at St Pancras
    I would like something from Waterloo, King’s Cross or Charing Cross
     

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