Broken G6 Journey Mode Services - How Can We Get Them Fixed?

Maik, with the announcement of TSW5, I wanted to inquire again about the possibility of getting the broken G6 journey mode services fixed (G6-Sh04 Prepare an intermodal consist and G6-Sh05 Collect and prepare Sggmrss). You previously stated that these bugs were "better not to touch at all". Current and future purchasers of the G6 DLC disagree with this sentiment and would like to see these bugs get fixed. We are unable to complete the G6 journey mode because of them. What can we do to get them fixed? Can I pay a fee for them to be fixed? Should we crowdsource a GoFundMe? I just want to figure out how we can get these bugs fixed once and for all.

Complaints about these SPADs were reported within 6 months of the DLC release:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/g6-sh04-un-playable.55655/
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/bug-in-vossloh-g6-dlc.55799/

Other relevant topics:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/broken-service-g6-shunter.61796/
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-bug-fixes.76819/

Players have been reporting and complaining about these issues for over 2 years with no resolution.

DTG-Chris, it seems like there has been more of a concerted effort on the DTG side to get broken services/scenarios fixed in the past year. Is there anything that DTG can do for us to expedite a resolution to these issues? Thank you!

 

The Sh05 might be down to a signalling issue with the route which is then up to DTG to fix, but not holding my breath at this stage.

Maybe the best thing is for someone to just remove the dud elements from Journey Mode so at least it can be completed though again, old stuff now seems to lay largely forgotten, by both DTG and TSG.

 

Good question, no idea. I invested already a lot of time to get the idea what is wrong there since TSW3 (remember, the loco was for TSW2 and there it all works fine still) but with no result yet. Last information i got is that it may lay down to the wagons and their coupler settings. Needs to be tested out. And no, i can't remove the services. That would even make more work that fixing the broken stuff after it was found. No time for that at the moment as you may can imagine^^. I know, it's not a best outcome, not for player nor for me, but there are things that can't be solved the easy way, even if it might look it would be easy to fix.

 

As I've already written in a similar thread, if this is merely from an achievement collection standpoint, it is at least possible to cheat-complete it using tools such as the godmode mod and cheat engine. Which I usually have no qualms about doing if it's as an extreme measure to get around an otherwise unfixable (or unfixed) bug, myself.

Of course, I'm saying this just as info if the collectionism side were to be the ultimate scope of yours. If the objective was genuinely wanting to go all the way through scenarios that you justly paid for, yeah I agree that it is a damn shame and shouldn't be excused.

 

I am on a mission to complete every Journey Mode chapter in the game. I wouldn't have any qualms about using mods or cheats to workaround bugs, but I am a PS5 player. I do wish that we had more in-game tools for working around bugs like these.

I recently discovered that sandbox options are now available in Journey Mode services. I spent several hours troubleshooting yesterday and was able to come up with this unbelievable workaround for G6-Sh04. Here are step-by-step instructions for completing "G6-Sh04 Prepare an intermodal consist" in Journey Mode:

1. Play the service as normal until you are asked to couple with 20 vehicles.
2. Cozy up next to the 20 vehicles, but do not couple to them.
3. Get out of the driver’s seat and walk to the end of the 20 vehicle train, near the faulty signal that causes the SPAD bug.
4. Spawn a train car so that it occupies both sides of the faulty signal. I used an SRM Habbiins, but I’m sure something else will work too.
5. Make sure to click No if you are prompted to abandon your service.
6. Return to the driver’s seat, and couple to the 20 vehicles.
7. Reverse into the SRM Habbiins, couple to it, and stop.
8. Switch to forward, and drive slowly. Stop the train as soon as the faulty signal turns green.
9. Switch to reverse, and drive slowly through the faulty signal. The faulty signal will not SPAD this time.
10. Continue reversing towards Hagen Siding 189, and stop with about 550m remaining. This will give you credit for the stop, and your locomotive should be clear of the switch that you need to access for the final “Stop At” instruction.
11. Uncouple the train as instructed.
12. Switch to forward, and proceed to the final stop.
13. You will be given Journey Mode credit for completing the service!

I am super stoked that I've worked around the Sh04 bug, but I haven't had any luck using the sandbox options to complete Sh05. I'll keep at it, but perhaps someone else can experiment with Sh05 and come up with a workaround!

 

Bump because I have been working on Sh05 also. I wanted to share what I have found so far in case you are still working on this too. I have found that if I spawn and attach a G6 to the end of the rake, then when I reverse the signal clears, the route is set correctly, and the incorrect SPAD is not triggered. However, I am having some issues finishing the service, because the G6 at the end of the rake prevents the final movement. I am going to try a few things out later but perhaps you can use this information.

This service is so annoying.

 

Tried that, but it won't let me spawn anything on the track in front of me (the red "not allowed" box), just on parallel tracks

 

NateDogg7a, could you please provide more step-by-step instructions on how you bypass the SPAD with the extra G6? Every time I pull into Hagen Siding 220 with an extra G6 at the rear of the train, the faulty signal remains stuck on red when attempting to reverse. Normally, it turns green after parking on 220 then SPADs when I pass it, so the extra G6 did seem to have some effect. Thank you!

 

I was actually thinking about trying this again with TSW6, not because I believe anything has been intentionally fixed, but who knows, maybe it will be incidentally fixed? After that I will post back here about what I have been trying, even if it still doesn't work. Although the extra G6 allowed me to get further, I still haven't completed this service in journey mode.

 

Yes, this is really frustrating. I love to drive the G6, but I find myself subbing it into 363 services rather than using it on its own, for fear they're hopelessly bugged.

 

It's only the two services that are not working since TSW3, nothing more. If i could fix it, i would fix it. But i have no idea how and what the problem is. It is hard to find (for me). I basically gave up on that, honestly. Thankfully the G6 is not dead as of that in TSW at all. It is being used in new timetables and you have all the other options like FreeRoam, ScenarioDesigner and the substitution. I wouldn't call is hoplessly bugget at all.

 

if it is not possible to fix it then it would be good to remove the problematic services from the jorney mode. even though "G6-Sh04 Prepare an intermodal consist can be played according to the instructions and it is possible to get a gold medal, the service G6-Sh05 Collect and prepare Sggmrss is still not possible to finish... I tried everything.. after connecting g6 to the end of the wagons I manage to break the wrong signal. However, I cannot finish the service.. in the last step where I have to connect 12 wagons I am stopped by a red light that I cannot break.. I cannot create g6, when contacting the dispatcher I get a message that the train has lost its path and I cannot finish the service.. the last step is the most difficult.. damn... I will try again

 

You are stuck exactly where I am stuck. This presents an additional problem in that we cannot tell if the final signal not clearing is because we spawned an extra G6, or if it is broken anyway regardless of how we got to this point. Something I have considered recently is spawning a G6 to push the rake to your "stuck" loco. This would probably break the journey though.

 

Think removing the faulty services from Journey mode is something I've suggested previously. At least it would allow that to be completed.

 

My opinion is that the last faulty signal was created by g6...maybe I'm wrong...but since the route on the map is marked correctly and the dispatcher reports that the train has lost its path, it could be caused by g6...

 

Especially since Journey mode disables the workaround tools available in timetable, deleting trains and redrawing paths.