I'm Really Miffed By Dovetails Business Model And I'm Genuinely Unsure Why They Don't Care About Us.

TSW 1 = Buggy as hell. Missing features such as passenger views when being able to control the train, a true free roam mode etc. Couldn't even do the fly-by view properly on console as you kept pressing the R stick in and it changed the control layout whilst resetting the camera each time!

TSW 2 = Fixed some bugs but also buggy hell.

The list goes on.

I bought 5 for Xbox One and they released a version so poor that I'm surprised it was allowed. Why is this happening? Why can't they add the most simple features to make the game more enjoyable? I'm miffed, truly. It's been years guys!

 

Just get a PC? Consoles are lame

 

Because its not their job to care. If you want caring go see family, friends, co-workers, doctors or teachers. That is part of thier jobs.

Do you think EA, McDonalds, Ikea or Costco care? No they just want your money as they are businesses that what they do.

 

So you bought tsw 5 on the xbox one and now complaining that it looks bad? lol.

 

The Xbox One is well over ten years old, and you're surprised the experience is poor?

 

As others have said, to get the best out of this game you either need a reasonable PC or a PS5. I personally wouldn’t bother with XBox anything!

 

I was an Xbox One user until earlier this year, but honestly you should be surprised they are still releasing on Gen 8 consoles

 

Is that supposed to be helpful? Whilst Gen 8 consoles are well past their time, many people have spent hundreds of pounds on dlc for a certain platform, and obviously won’t give that up

 

Right - the game runs great on Gen 9, both XBOX and PS. It's absurd to compare a Ninja PC with Gen 8 - if you're going to do that then I can trump that with my terrible potato PC which runs far slower than Gen 8 but cost the same.

Anyway, a lot of us are done with the hassle of gaming PCs - each to their own, but not for me any more. I was a PC gamer for more than a decade and loved the flexibility vs. consoles but eventually fell out of love - usually marginal gain over XBOX/PS for substantial additional cost, myriad incompatibility issues, ridiculous and costly GPU 'arms race', playing in a small, stuffy box room somewhere or the home office rather than in a home cinema room with huge 7.1 sound and a >= 65" OLED etc. etc.. OK, maybe a few PC players have their noisy, LED-festooned towers hooked up to the TV, but the majority don't.... Anyway, slightly tongue-in-cheek maybe, but for quality of life consoles win every time.

TL;DR - Gen 9, both XBOX and PS, run TSW great so don't be misled by PC zealots.

 

Sounds like their problem

 

I'd stick with family and friends only

 

I spent dozens of pounds back in the day for ZX Spectrum games.

Technology moves on.

Sadly, its what always happened with consoles, they have an obsolesce date. PCs can easily be upgraded.
IF DTG didnt care, they wouldnt release them on obsolete consoles for folks.

 

What if someone told you that your PC isn’t adequate and you need to throw away all that dlc? You’d be pretty unhappy. Just because something doesn’t affect you, doesn’t mean you should completely disregard it and even have a laugh about it at their expense

 

Ignore the PC nerd, most of them are upset as most dont see them as a master race anymore

 

I would never have that problem.
I only laugh at moany over dramatic posts such as the one the OP has made

 

Well I’m glad you’re in such a privileged position that you don’t even realise it, but it’s still a problem that lots of people will have to think about and your master race doesn’t help

 

Why are people getting so worked up over which box of electronic trickery is better. It seems very churlish.

 

Worth noting if you go PS4 to PS5 or Xbox One to Xbox Series then your DLC comes with you.

 

Now, what features you mention are anyone's guess, and the quality/performance issues you encountered are also not mentioned. I would really encourage you to move forward to next generation for performance, even if it is just a second-hand console, if your budget doesn't allow getting a new device. Xbox One is 12 years old, so there is not much that can be expected of it nowadays. Frankly, TSW5 on Xbox One is probably just as bad an experience as it would be on a 12-year old PC, so it's not really a console-only problem..

As to why it is allowed, is the answer is simple. Everyone makes money when games sell - the developer, the publisher, the platform holder. When platform holders raise the quality bar for developers, it makes harder to sell your game, which in turn makes development more costly and moves sales further in time. This makes the whole process less lucrative, so the certification process on consoles today is a laughable shadow of itself from, say, 2012, when it actually meant something. Nowadays as long as you pass storefront checks and use correct terminology you are mostly okay, even if the performance is trash or issues make playing the game annoying and painful. Long gone are the moments when certification testers looked at every single part of a game and would fail the process when an achievement didn't pop when it should, a certain area of the game had degraded performance, or settings wouldn't save. Nowadays these pass certification with flying colors and maybe a warning, that isn't even followed by a mandatory fix leading to conditional release. Hence we have all of the above in TSW, and much more. But money is being made.

Oh look, we have a clown on board.

Acting like an ar$ehole on community forums looks like your problem, yet we all suffer for it. If you don't have anything constructive to say staying silent is a better option.

They do care, but much more so for the revenue, rather than for the experience. Clinging to the previous generation five years after launch certainly is a... peculiar choice. Must make monetary sense then, if it happens, because businesses are rational, and do not act on a whim. Battlefield 6 launches exclusively on Gen9 soon, and their biggest competitod, CoD, is still clinging to Gen8. I don't know how this will go for them, but I have my expectations

And if you ever want to switch to PC they also carry there, so you can play on Xbox on PC (or whatever the hell Microsoft is calling their Microsoft Store gaming offering _today_. It is a viable option for people that have PCs, though they prefer playing on console (such as myself), that want to have better experience until Gen10 comes and maybe improves things (which I hope will happen, personally).

 

Doctors, teachers, etc.... HAHAHA!
It's not their job to care either.
If you keep buying content, you enjoy the product enough to keep buying it.
If you don't... then you don't.

I like how everything DTG is always automatically wrong no matter what it is.
If they support Gen 8 consoles...they're wrong because they "are idiots supporting obsolete products."
If they move to only Gen 9 consoles...they'd be wrong because they 'don't care about Gen 8 customers"
If they release a UK route, US and Germany players whine.
If they release a German route, UK and US players whine.
If they release a US route, German and UK players whine.
Release a bundle of all 3 for TSW 6 at a decent price and people whine there's no Dutch, French or Japanese route.
Can't win.

 

I agree. It's frustrating when games have bugs and issues for years. But I do think they are trying to get it right. Remember, consoles are a kind of computer, but gaming started before PCs. Remember when there was only gaming in arcades? Pong? Atari 2600? I have a PC and can afford to upgrade or build a gaming PC. But I have video and music editing software, large Microsoft Office files, etc. I choose PS5 because it's dedicated to gaming and many games run better on it anyway. And it's nice to be able to use them separately. On my last doctor visit, he told me that he is a gamer (I WAS surprised). Guess what? He has an X-box. I'm sure he can afford a PC.

 

You bought Spectrum games?

 

I've had consoles going back to the SNES including the latest (now 5yrs old) 9th generation, but these days I stick with PC because I'm a nerd and enjoy the hardware and software side of things. I worked in IT for 30 years so configuration, driver maintenance and updates are second nature. The upside is I get the best experience graphics-wise and access to all those lovely mods and Steam sales, but I admit it can get pricey keeping hardware up to date. I get the appeal of the plug n play console experience and respect it, but gen 8 folks really need to upgrade, sorry but there it is. Remember, what you have already bought for Gen 8 will transfer to Gen 9, so nothing is lost.

I've been on these forums quite a few years and believe that DTG do care. The real train enthusiasts like Matt and Jamie put their heart and soul into their job and it shows, but they don't have a say in all aspects of the business. Is TSW perfect? No, but I'll still take over anything else on the market.

 

You can get a decent PC for 500 whatever-currency-you-use. Get a 1tb ssd, 16gb of cheaper ddr4 ram, a GTX1650 or something like that and a Ryzen 5600.

My PC is mid-tier:
- 1tb ssd + 512gb ssd
- 16gb soon to be 32gb ddr5 ram
- a Ryzen 5 5600X
- a 3050 8gb vram (shittiest GPU ever)

Cost 800€ and it works perfectly with TSW6! Like at this point consoles don't make sense. But the 500€ option also works. Just do the research because I pulled the component names from my rear end and they are defenitely not the exact ones.

 

You may want to remove the swear before you get shadow banned mate

 

and the most typical response goes to....

 

Looks like another user for the ignore list