Route Morristown Line New York & Hoboken - Dover - Feedback

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  1. dtg_jan

    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    This thread will stay locked until Early Access is available.

    Hello everyone,

    This is the dedicated master feedback thread for the Morristown Line New York & Hoboken - Dover route, including the Arrow III, ALP-46, and Multi-levels.

    Please keep all discussions only related to feedback and provide the game platform you are using in any comments for feedback. Thank you!

    Visit our support page for informative articles and FAQs. Our dedicated technical support team is also available to assist you there.

    When providing feedback, please always add the following details if possible:
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    • Service/Scenario played when the issue occurred.
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    As always, thank you for your feedback.

    All the best,
    Jan
     
  2. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Its only showing the arrow and nothing else xbox x
     
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  3. Mischief

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    I can echo what dal is saying. Took an update this morning on the series x for TSW 6 Deluxe. The Morristown line timetable only has the arrow III as an option. The train depot only shows the arrow as well, can't find the 46 or 45 DP.

    The journey chapters have multiple blank entries
     
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  4. f__s_cw

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    Same issue here. Also, the thumbnail is that of LIRR
     
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  5. alextoyne2000

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    Dials flicking on series X and same issue as the other routes
     

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  6. Mischief

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    Definitely something wrong happening here. Half the scenarios are broken because they can't find the train they need. Just spawn outside with no trains nearby. Plus some very intense z fighting on almost everything in the world. The cars, buildings, streets, light posts, almost everything is flickering black.

     
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  7. Trainiac

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    Arrow III service 267 17:23 spawns on a platform with no OHLE
     
  8. maser#4586

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    Yow! I'm not seeing anything like that on PS5. I've had no problems at all, aside from the loud clicking in loading screens. Also, I have 8 scenarios for this route.
     
  9. MJCKP

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    My first thoughts:
    - It is nice that the interior of Hoboken was modelled but I think we should be allowed to go into it, I don't see why there needs to be an invisible wall stopping you from going in
    - It is nice that the Arrow III can couple to other trains with buckeye couplers, but it would be even better if the coupler adapter was graphically functional
    - It would have been nice if there were some unelectrified branches so you could use the ALP-45DP more
    - Overall though I think it is a good route with good trains, probably one of the best US routes

    Bugs (I'm on PC Steam):
    - It won't let you couple the Arrow III to anything else with an N-type coupler, such as the M3, M7, etc
    - The multi-level cab car doesn't seem to work with other diesel locomotives
     
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  10. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    I agree 100% .I tried and tried to get this opened, maybe if enough players suggest and provide feedback on it might get DTG to look into it. :)
     
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  11. Train Sim Society

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    I was running the very first Arrow III service in Journey Mode, the 414 Gladstone to Hoboken. Even with faults set to “normal,” I encountered at least 10 failures during the run, which already feels a bit excessive.

    But I noticed a bigger issue at New York Penn. The 614 Gladstone to New York Penn service was completely stuck at a red signal, and it had a whole line of trains stacked up behind it. I counted 14 trains *sigh, all of which were waiting and unable to move. Thankfully, removing the first train cleared it up, but still very sad to see these issues still occurring. :/
     
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  12. Etho Smith

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    On PC, I encountered so far a few issues that make the alp45dp and arrow III unplayable. The running sounds seem to play on and off, and the wind sound in the cab is blistering loud. I like the new horn they added(I think), but that and the other engine sounds are mixed kind of low. Arrow III sounds are TS Classic quality and the train it self is set to the wrong voltage type when starting a timetable service out of Sunnyside yard. Not to mention this weird floor/ground issue within the East River Tunnel.
     
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  13. pveezy

    pveezy Well-Known Member

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    Liking this route so far. One design choice which seems bizarre and makes the route feel a little zombie apocalypse is how these big highways are modelled without a single automobile driving on them. A step back from Worcester and San Bernardino where the highways were relatively alive.

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  14. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    This isn't a bug. Materials is invisible from the "back side" for optimisation purpose. Try to go under the textures in any game, and you'll see pretty much the same.
     
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  15. MAX1319

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    This was area has been previously filed with Jira
     
  16. Train Sim Society

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    The PIS time appears to be incorrect - it should be displaying as 12 PM. It might also be worth suggesting a future option to toggle between 12-hour and 24-hour clock formats in-game too! :)
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  17. Etho Smith

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    Most games I play don't have me falling through the map when I walk on foot.
     
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  18. PseudoStalker

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    Oh man, I thought it was a free cam.
     
  19. NateDogg7a

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    In the Route Introduction, the sign on Hoboken Terminal is referred to as the "Lackawanna County" sign. It should be the "Erie Lackawanna" sign.

    In Journey Mode, the first chapter misspells the name as "Lakawanna."

    Small observations but still easily noticed. Series X.
     
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  20. NateDogg7a

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    In Journey Mode, the first Arrow III service, 414 Gladstone - Hoboken, starts at 08:07:41 for an 0808 departure. 19 seconds is not enough time to prepare for departure.

    Door faults still occur in the Arrow III, even with Train Faults "Disabled." I even got a door fault in the Arrow III training module.

    Also on the Arrow III, the sun visor is down by default. While this is more subjective, I can't think of any other loco in TSW that puts the visor down by default. Of course now I will probably have to raise it every single time. I am also of the opinion that the driver view is both too low and too far back. I would be interested to know how others feel about this.
     
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    IMG_3374.jpeg IMG_3373.jpeg Floating Tracks and abruptly ending ballast in the approach tunnels to Hoboken. Floating tracks even carry all the way through on one side.
     
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  22. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    Love the route so far! The Arrow III is a new favorite already. Reminds me so much of the old SEPTA Silverliners that i've ridden on so many times- i can feel how uncomfortable those seats are. The cab is such a great mix of the old systems with the newer stuff added in over the years. Took me forever to find the marker light controls though- protip, they're up on the ceiling

    Train faults are more fun than i anticipated, though on my first couple runs i haven't enountered a TSR yet. I'm sure it's just the RNG. Have only explored Summit-Hoboken and then did an depot run- can't wait to see more of it!
     
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  23. NateDogg7a

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    It has already been mentioned but is worth repeating that the complete lack of vehicles on I-280 or any other roads around and between Brick Church and East Orange is very noticeable. This can also be contrasted with the fair amount of vehicle traffic present just down the line at Newark Broad Street, although even here we see no traffic as the railroad crosses over both Broad St and Route 21. Maybe we can't have static freight cars for this route, but there should be a significant effort to at least add some traffic in these areas. Hopefully it was more of an oversight rather than done on purpose to save memory.
     
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  24. Etho Smith

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    NJT Alp45-DP
    I knew they ripped these sounds directly from TS Classic or TS2017 when it was released back then. Why did they change the sounds from what they previewed on the showcase stream. That god awful wind/track/what ever sound just drowns out all the other sounds. Also they didn't get rid of the light glare or sounds from passing AI trains when going through the Hudson Tubes. The Cab Signal sounds are just too loud as well.
    Below is a quick run on the NJCL(TS Classic) from Aberdeen Matawan to Hazlet in Electric mode on the Alp45-DP. Really wish we had Commets, but If they are ripping these sounds then I already know they are pushing them in a DLC later down.
     
  25. dshyhiem

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    Is anyone else getting this weird loud static like noise on PS5 when playing and loading a route?
     
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  26. dshyhiem

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    Also service “6653 NY Penn - Dover” on the ALP-45DP is broken. Spawning with the train derailing.
     
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    Yes. It pops every time I load a route then every once and a while when I am playing.
     
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  28. Snorhog

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    they need to change the running sounds of the Multilevels; they sound horrible. It drowns out the Sound for the ALP-45 and 46
     
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  29. QNS Chris

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    Love the route so far, and the Arrow III might be my favorite train in the game! The details on the limited runs that I’ve done so far have been impeccable - both along the route and the train itself. Tons of fun to drive.

    That said, there are a few issues off the bat:
    - Arrow III: using RailDriver, the throttle needs to be calibrated / optimized. The forward (Safety, Off, Switch, P1,2,3) range is farrrr too short, and I had to calibrate it such that 90% of the throttle stick is in the Forward range.
    - East River Tunnels: some clipping / floating scenery / disappearing tunnel when making the Sunnyside-NYP run. Apologies, as I do not have the service number for this, but I believe the tunnel is the furthest to the south / left-hand side (going westbound)

    I’ve no doubt that DTG will remedy these minor issues - so far, very impressive work!!
     
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  30. pveezy

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    One thing I noticed on standard PS5 is the FPS get pretty horrible close to Hoboken. 15-19 FPS. I have a PS5 Pro in my main room so I will have to see if it is any better on that.

    It doesn't help I don't think that the yard had a ton of parked trains that were FULL of passengers. Back to basic TSW bugs since the beginning - parked/out of service trains full of passengers but then you often get empty in service trains.
     
  31. Snorhog

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    Whenever you press E to leave the seat of ALP45, you pop out through the roof.Also why are the Traction Motors and Blower sounds so low on the Alp-45/46 in the cab.
     
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  32. dshyhiem

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    I’m scared it’s going to blow my TV speakers
     
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    Seems like no buy for long time...
     
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  34. leewood83

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    Service 475 at Mountain a door fault occured even though I have train faults switched off. Corrected and recevied confirmation but now the lock doors stays on screen and can't progress through the journey.
     
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    I'm playing tsw6 on ps5 and everytime I play the American route it crashes the game and it only happens when I have started the American route and sometimes after I have finished a service as well.
     
  36. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    The arrow 3 such a cool train drive im liking this route.
     
  37. noah hunt

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    Route and gameplay wise thoroughly enjoying it - signals are phenomenal and have no issues so a big thanks to Brandon :)
    Although I have encountered an array of bugs from myself and some friends.

    My basic specs: PC - Steam - RTX4060 8GB
    Really not the best system for this i'll admit but I should not be getting as low as 7fps in some places that's for sure, especially when I can do the entirety of Boston to Worcester with a solid 60fps on high graphics.

    Bugs/Issues -

    1. Various reports of random events still happening even when disabled. (More likely to be core)
    2. Arrow III Engineer's door opens when loading at stations.
    3. Random light glows where there are no floodlights or street lights present.
    4. Obysmal performance when going into the Newark vicinity at times. (7fps recorded)
    5. Generally poor performance throughout the whole route. (Hardly ever gets above 50fps)
    6. ALP45-DP automatically does an emergency shutdown in diesel mode when spawning on foot.
    7. New York City skyline often has half the lights out at night including the World Trade Center area.
    8. ALP46 Headlights still illuminated at the rear of some services.
    9. No aircon sound in the multilevels and sometimes the windshield heater sound is nonexistent (Only turned it on in the first place so it wasn't dead silent)
    10. ALP45-DP Traction motor sounds cut out when you go from the dynamic range or off into the power range and I often have to put the lever back into off in order to hear them.
     

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  38. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else noticed on all the trains except arrow that when the brakes are fully released they actually applied very tiny amount. Sharon E are you getting this problem
     

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    I've got random faults turned off but one of the doors of the Arrow III wouldn't close.
     
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    Purno Well-Known Member

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    I don't think high-voltage cables bend this way in real life. Looks very unrealistic.
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    Ah Thanks that explains why i had that i get stuck with doors they where closed but the game does not respond. I have faults disabled. Good to know
     
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    Driving my first service on this route, express 877 Hoboken to Hackettstown with the ALP 45, and I got a stop signal at the home for the interlock where the line goes from 3 to 2 tracks just before Summit. I was on the center, express track, the signal on the track to my right, the one coming into my line, was set at, I believe, limited clear. This was for a local which was 3 stations back when I stopped. The signals are working correctly, I feel this is a pathing issue in game where that local has been given the route over my express. There are no signs on these signals, so must be cab signal territory.
     
  43. maser#4586

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    "You're gonna wanna come to Lackawanna!" :)
     
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    That's Millburn interlocking. Definitely sounds like an AI got priority over you.
     
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    Brandon, I agree with you and now I am behind this stopper. Coming into Summit, on a restricting and keeping in mind the half the distance rule, the stopper, train 6625 from NYP to Dover, was still at the platform and, as I slowed to stop, it started moving away. In the end, I was so late that at Dover New York bound train 6662 was at my platform and had to delete it to get into the station. Must say, quite the journey for my first run on this route.
     
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    Love this route, Q. When I walk at Hoboken the navigate circle below is not visable and I can,t find the button in the settings
    i
     
  47. slenderman7676RBLX

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    I did some digging and found that the reason the Arrow won't couple with other N type fitted trains is because actually for all coupling (even arrow to arrow) the CouplerIDs are only set as "Buckeye".
     
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    (PC) I've given up driving the ALP46, ALP45DP, and Cab car on the Morristown line with the safety systems enabled. They don't act the same as the NYT versions. On the NYT ALP46 & Cab car I was able to put the brake in "Lap" or "Suppression", and hit "Acknowledge" to silence the alarms while making my brake application. But now they don't go off no matter is I spam the "Acknowledge" button and I get a penalty brake application. I have to constantly "Cut-Out" and "Cut-In" the safety systems.
     
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    NY Penn station, Track 15 and Track 17 are missing rail textures and the third power rail, there are segments that are practically white....
     
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    Love the route! But found some things to improve up on and make it even better :)

    1. U can not step up the platforms at summit station once you go off the platform.
    2. Some AI ALP 46 trains have there headlights on while pushing the cab car.
    3. Wrong light artifacting big huge object in the back of platform 1 & 2 at New York pen station looks like a giant storage rack or something.
    4. The PSI boards on the stations on the whole route are seetrought and solidifie when getting closer to them.
    5. Tekst window on the second mastery challenge is to small and cut off the sentences, so it’s not clear what I need to do to complete them. Does anybody know ?
    6. Audio issues loud sound comming from the game every now and then.
    7. Sunnyside yard need some clean up there are big piles of dirt in front of the tunnel to penn station, also there is a mistirious random flying PIS board near the entrance of the tunnel near Hunters point

    hope this will help I’m playing on a PS5 Pro
     
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