Disappointment With The Update Policy

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by SDAN, Sep 30, 2025.

  1. SDAN

    SDAN New Member

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    I’ve been playing Train Sim World since the early versions, starting back with TSW2020. I own several routes, including Dresden–Riesa, which has always been one of my favorites. With the release of TSW6, I was hoping that improvements and new features would also apply to the routes I already own — but sadly, this is not the case.
    Now there is a new route, Dresden–Leipzig, which heavily overlaps with Dresden–Riesa, yet it is being sold as a completely separate DLC at full price (around 740 UAH in my region). This means I would need to pay almost the same amount again for a route that is 50% identical to the one I already own. Even with discounts, the price remains quite high (200–300 UAH), especially since this is not a completely new route.

    Meanwhile:
    • New features (such as passenger sounds, improved effects, physics, etc.) do not apply to older routes.
    • Old DLC still contain bugs that haven’t been fixed for years.
    • Long-time players who have supported the game and purchased many DLCs receive no benefit from new game versions.
    • Each new version offers almost nothing unless you buy new DLC.
    I truly love this game and have invested a lot of time and money into it, but it feels like the developers are more focused on releasing new paid DLC than on improving existing content.
    It’s frustrating that loyal players like us, who have supported the project for years, are left without updates or any appreciation.

    What I would like to see:
    • Some of the new features from TSW6 applied to older routes.
    • Discounts or loyalty bonuses for owners of older routes when a new version with overlapping content is released.
    • More attention to fixing long-standing bugs on older routes.
    • Clear communication about the purpose of releasing new yearly versions if improvements do not apply to existing content.
    I sincerely hope the developers listen to the community, because Train Sim World is a great game, but with every new version, it’s becoming harder to stay motivated when updates bring nothing new for existing players and only more paid content.
     
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  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    the issue with extensions is that the price also has to account for the track that is already there. They can't charge just for the extension. It's why lirr commuter was also full priced.

    in terms of new features not on older routes is that most of these upgrades are manual upgrades which aren't 5 minute jobs. With 100+ dlc, keeping every dlc updated to utilize the new features would be a huge amount of work.
     
  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Adding new features to old DLC isn't an easy job.
     
  4. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Probably easier than what we expect but this company is a tad lazy and doesn’t understand they could easily make profit from said additions by adding a new pack for the route

    they seem to only say it’s difficult as a excuse same for steam
     
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  5. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    If they could make money from it, they'd already be doing it.
     
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  6. Vinination

    Vinination Well-Known Member

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    What kind of logic is that? You say everyone at DTG is just lying about the difficulty to upgrade old content or to develop features?
    What could they possibly gain from doing this? Better asked, what do you have to proof your assumption?

    From my perspective, this also seems very disrespectfull to everyone at DTG doing this kind of stuff as a passion project, with the best and most recent example being the GWE remaster.
     
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  7. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    My point being they can make 3 core routes within a 4 month timeframe going off what was previously mentioned by one of the DTG members, I fail to see how adding a few features would take longer, Tod 4 makes sense to take a bit longer but regular features shouldn’t take overly long unless they really made tsw 2 routes out of spaghetti code
     
  8. Vinination

    Vinination Well-Known Member

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    Well Matt P. is very often explaining how most of the old routes were made very inefficient in memory usage compared to todays ones, which makes it often impossible to add something to them.
    For the time they needed with the routes i heard, also from a DTG developer, that they started around january, which makes a bit more sense looking at the quality of for example riviera line.
    I also suggest to listen to the more technical details they share in the streams, which often are about why stuff is not as easy at it first seems to be.
     
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  9. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Fine…., there’s still nothing stopping them from having a program for other people to fix their routes like hell if they could provide a class on dlc making, it would mostly likely benefit them in the long run

    Also I stopped watching the streams for two reasons, one half the time it’s pointless filler and second they skip or go into the lowest amount of detail possible for some questions where are asking about problems/ bugs being fixed
     
  10. Vinination

    Vinination Well-Known Member

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    It would reduce the amount of work, but the issue starts at the quality they need to have. Sure the opinion on DTGs dlc quality isnt great at the moment, but even they have to make the content kinda work for all the platforms it released on. If for example a route gets to performance heavy or something isnt done the way DTG would have done it, then the team would basically have more trouble with fixing new issues rather than making the remaster on their own.

    While i also find it kind of boring to watch them go over the entire roadmap for like 40 minutes, if it comes to the Q&A part especially Matt does answer more and more questions from a technical point of view.
    These technical insights are one reason i dont agree with many things discussed in the other threads, even if the main argument seems true, the extend they have seems often way too.exaggerated.
     

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