New Italian Route Coming From Just Trains

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  1. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.justtrains.net/product/n-w-italian-railway-torino-navara

    The real-world North-West Italian Railway Torino-Novara is part of the major route that runs from Torino to Milano. The railway is double-tracked and fully electrified using a 3KV DC system with the high-speed trains operating only on the section of the line between Torino Porta Nuova and Novara Torino Stura Station.

    In Train Sim Classic the Italian North-West Railway: Torino-Novara runs from Torino to Novara station and is set circa 2020.
    The route is around 170km long (105 miles), with most of it being electrified with double track.

    A major feature for the route is the Torino area, with the various stations and railway connections to the rest of the region located there.

    The line has 29 stations and four freight yards, including Drosso for the Fiat plant and the large Orbassano freight yard; both of these yards are not used as much as they were in the past, however, and some tracks are out of use or have even been removed.
     
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  2. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Well-Known Member

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    So nice. Autobuy for me even if some of it is in the freeware SFM Torino route.
     
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  3. mindenjohn

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    The RSSLO E412 loco will be handy on this.
     
  4. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Well-Known Member

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    The Minuetto will have true SCMT. Looking much forward to this.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    the E464 looks a bit strange and the number on the front is wrong

    e464 2.jpg

    IMG_4334.JPG
     
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    Looks good. Just saw it on FB. The author had been posting about it on Steam, but has since deleted his post.
     
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    Interesting
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    If you made some Freeware Items would you be happy for those items to be included with Payware?

    I was told on FB the E464 is an AI loco.
    It is easier for someone who has the route to swap it with the freeware version
     
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    In the annoucement it states that there is only an emu driveable as the remainder is AI. There are however a number of freeware locos available from more than one site which is encouraging.

    From the JustTrains announcement
    Rolling stock

    The route comes with the highly detailed and accurate Minuetto EMU. This has Expert-style controls and its own manual to cover its operation. The Minuetto includes a feature that can create random failures and also has a specific function for dynamic destination board operation for use in scenario creation.

    To enhance your experience, numerous AI-only trains are included in various liveries:

    • ETR421-ETR521-ETR621 Caravaggio (named Rock in Trenitalia service)
    • E402A loco for both for freight and passenger operation
    • MDVC-MDVE passenger coaches
    • E464 loco widely used for passenger operations.
     
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    If the only Driven train will be the Minuetto, that I already own, I might wait until I see some reviews before purchasing.
     
  12. Kim Olesen

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    This one has full SCMT.
     
  13. AC66

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    Hello to everybody. I'm the creator of the route Torino-Novara and I would like to give you some explainations that comes in my mind reading some of the posts.

    There was a specific decision/request not to include with the route any external assets (loco or generic assets) that is not part of the base TSC software. Therefore the route includes all the needed assets created by me or part of the JustTrains Common Library, to have a playable product in one installer.
    This is the reason why a new EMU (Minuetto) has been developped and a list of AI train included; in this way the scenario that will come with the route can have already various traffic. I hope and I'm sure that a lot of scenario's creators will then add new ones with external rolling stock to realize even more great driving experience.

    The Minuetto included in the route is not the free version created years ago by AnemoneLab. This is a complete new project born with the idea to create an expert EMU with al the main procedures managed (like parking in e parking out, stopping procedure (final parking), machine switch on (manual, automatic or skipped), brake test). Additionally there are several failures eventually triggered by the scenario (for example fire, passenger alarm, suspension failure, dynamic brake failure, electric motor failure, lubrification problem). The Minuetto has dynamic destination board with sliding text also triggered by the scenario with a specific signal, or manually by the cab keyboard.

    The route has the SCMT placed using the plugin created by WG, and the Minuetto is using this plugin to handle the SCMT control. But for the same reasons above explained, in case a user has not this plugin installed, the Minuetto will then use a custom backup "SCMT" screen with a reduced function to only the RSC portion (Cab Signal Repetition).

    For the E464 with the uncorrect numbering, this was an error caused by the script already corrected and in the next days I'll ask to replace the wrong images (sometimes happen). Again, the E464 in the AI version was added only for the default scenarios that will come with the route, but for sure the WG E464 freeware version will be the one to use due to the high value of this creation. Between me and WG there was in the last years a joined work to improve the new signals (from myself) and the new SCMT version (from him) that now will exchange a lot of additional information to help the SCMT script to have all the possible data's available to predict what the loco has to do.

    In the next days(weeks I'll publish some info/scrshot and maybe movies in my website (www.codadeltreno.com).
     
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  14. robix61

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    This version of the Minuetto is greatly improved and further developed compared to the Minuetto released in 2011 by Anemone Lab. In reality, there is no comparison. Practically two different rolling stock.
     
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    I hope it will have a quick start option just like The Worcester e464. I really dislike complicated startups, but still want the fully featured sequrity systems.
     
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  16. robix61

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    Of course, there is! Even the same keys...:)
    It will also be possible to have two modes of train running protection: realistic (like the E464) or simplified (test mode) for easier driving.
     
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  17. AC66

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    As already told by Robix yes and in general I used whenever possible the same keyboard shortcuts and functionality of the E464 to simplify the learning curve.
     
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  18. Kim Olesen

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    That’s great :love:
    Just like it should be. An option for how deep the player wants to go. Looking much forward to it.
     
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    Really great news as I love my half a dozen Italian routes and have a lot of rolling stock already
     
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  21. AC66

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    Me as the author of the route, I never published anything on Steam. I hope was a wrongly posted announcement.... ;-)
     
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  22. trevkiwi

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    There was someone posting on Steam about a new Italian route which have since been taken down.
     

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