Indeed. Maybe if they paid a little more attention to their community and diverted their focus away from making new yearly releases they might have a fix for this stuff
Exactly. If they're charging so much for this content you'd think that they'd carry out thorough testing on all platforms they advertise for so that we don't have all these annoying, often service ending glitches
Indeed, im sure many people would rather if, instead of releasing a new game yearly which is almost completely a copy of the previous title just with new colours and music, they just make yearly large updates and actually give themselves a chance to properly address the glitches and issues that they have. If their target is money making maybe if they did this they'd gain popularity aswell as having a functional game. These guys confuse me at times I must admit
I use to love playing Trainz on my PC I was never off it. When I first got it I played all night on it, my 1st wife wasn't too happy as we was going away on that morning I got married two days previous on the way to our cottage in whitby she didn't speak to me for most of the day. But was I bothered No in my life trains come first. I would like a new PC maybe God willing I might get one before I shuffle off this planet.
My apologies about the language in the post. As for the issues: Riviera line: .Audio popping during gameplay (mainly on the 220) .train faults happening way too much to a point it gets extremely tedious and annoying, engine failures constantly happen on the 220, to the point that multiple times I've stopped at an unscheduled station because I had multiple failures on the move so decided to stop and fix them before losing too much power, but when I stopped and fixed them the engines failed again twice so I ended up over 15 mins late (that's with frequency turned to low in settings). .the sea disappears when approaching Dawlish Warren towards Paignton/Plymouth . On multiple routes there's at least one section where all visuals on the cab desk go blurry or distorted aswell as on bridges and nearby scenery, I can't remember where all the sections are but it's on multiple routes such as: Riviera line, WCML Euston-M.K, Preston-carlisle, Cathcart Circle, Mildmay line, and pretty sure I've had it on Cardiff Network aswell. .Game crashes are very frequent on many routes aswell. Mostly Preston-carlisle and WCML south Although has happened multiple times on most routes. Often says Out of Memory so possibly more of a console issue than dtg issue but either way it's infuriating .Stuttering and slow loading is often a problem aswell mainly in scenery but also in-cab textures too (again most common in the two routes mentioned above but can also happen on others such as Riviera line for example) Thanks for the reply and again apologies for the language used
I completely agree, new buggy feature, new music, new number with a different colour then good to go according to dtg, although still with the exact same persistent, often game ruining glitches that have plagued the game for years. And as for these PC players are getting triggered by my comment seem to forget all of the luxuries they can get with their high performance, the millions of mods and enhancements they can simply just install and make the game like 10x better, they don't seem to acknowledge the console players who don't get any of that and are usually stuck with whatever is given to them. As you say there's no passion anymore it's just ruined by greed and a community full of criticism and disregard for others
I'm sick of hearing people complain about the new game. I understand bugs and stuff need to be fixed but making a new game every year is a clever marketing technique. Downloading DLCs really isn't that big of a deal. It's just bugs and stuff need to be fixed. I'm replying to everyone who has said this
Pc user? or just someone doesn’t understand people want a game that actually works and doesn’t require multiple full days to download
l think people have a right to complain. I am nearly eighty and unlike TSW5 where it was easy to install your content l am having to individually install my content on Xbox PC. Unlike Steam and the Xbox hub where it lists your content and you tick what you want and away you go leaving it until it installs everything, l cannot find a way to install my library for TSW via the xbox pc. It maybe is me, but l cannot see the option and have only decided to install what l need at the time. Manchester Airport Commuter is the only one that l have installed so far. l found in TSW5, that loading all your content slowed the game down and it took 20 minutes to start. At present TSW6 takes a minute. Has anyone who has installed all the content found that TSW6 takes longer to load?
Sounds quicker than TSW5 then BBIAJ, but if it crashes l won’t be re-installing many!!! Thank you for the advice.
That’s just lip service pure and simple Harry. Nothing ever comes of the feedback the Community provide. Sorry.
No, TSW5 used to take 16 minutes to start including almost 150 mods….TSW6 takes 3-4 minutes with the same mods!
Not on my Series X. And no crashes at all yet, let alone 99% of the time.... I'm no apologist for DTG, far from it, but I think the issue is with your console rather than the game.
Don't listen to him - I have most of the available DLC going back to the days of TSW 2020 and have not had the problems he describes on my Series X.
What are you trying to achieve with your statement? He can write his opinion however he wants. And just because everything works fine for you on Xbox, that doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else.
I'm playing on an Xbox Series X Galaxy Black 2Tb console, every other game works fine except the TSW series. It did the same on my Halo Series X, my base Series X, and just for good measure, I tested it across several of my ex's Series X's. So either I'm incredibly unlucky, and have 5 faulty Xbox Series X's across multiple varients of the platform, or each and every download was somehow corrupted? Alternatively, and don't freak out at me, maybe DTG need to optimise the game better? It is only on the initial load that it crashes, in-game has been perfectly fine. On the plus side, only installing the routes and layers I am playing means that the game boots up that much quicker. But thanks for attempting to belittle my experience with the game thus far, much appreciated!
I’m on Series X and have probably 20 DLCs installed and I haven’t had any crashes. I’ve only had 1 crash and it was on my series S and it hasn’t happened since. What do you have installed that it’s taking that long to load and keeps crashing?
I left feed back on products that have been purchased and have many issues carried over from TSW5, 4, 3, 2, TSW2020. I am now on TSW6 and this issue of being lazy could be granted if issues persist or items like this reach market. No wheels in LD and this is an issue on TSW5 carried over to TSW6. And so has my problems of WCML south crashing on TSW5 and now on the same route with TSW6. Looking at past comments on these feedback threads show that many leave feedback, some years old but yet even today we face the same issues from the past. So how can things be missed so much and reach market in a poor condition or not fit for use. Testing would pick issues up like the ones I’ve have pointed out. It’s obvious if a test was done. Again we can all leave feedback but what gets done with that feedback, well evidence speaks for itself and so if nothing is acted upon from all the feedback of issues or problems still face users year on year out with every new game that comes out speaks volumes. Why if it’s been raised and why if we’re on the 9th literation on TSW. Here I have tried to warn DTG about this constant push each year on sale while leaving past fans and there issues with a game that is full of bugs or issues that all mount up which ends doing the damage to DTG Rep the longer it’s left. Hence I will not buy any added freight packs as all these have issues one way or another. Even some locos as I buy for editing yet the models have bugs on them too. Here I will say this year has been the worst year for issues that prevented me from full enjoying a product purchased from DTG backing up the users experience but not out right frustration. Frustrating is not the word I’d use now. I’d say it’s an insult to TSW long standing customers to think poor products quality can reach market and remain defective. We live in a time where faulty products or poorly designed ones hit market. PS5 controllers are a perfect example. It’s reached markets with a design fault in the joy stick sensors. So to fix the issues what did Sony do. Sell customers a newer controller called edge. What?. Sony allows a design fault be in production yet then sell customers a product to fix it. The initial problem still exists tho, while a fix is pushed out. The end cost or fix is with the customer not the company responsible. By that logic means a company can design products with a know limited defect or lifetime. A PS5 controller is newer than a PS3 yet that still works the PS5 doesn’t. Perfect example I’d say of a poor business model, well for the end customer that is. The company wins because it’s shifts more units. And people will still buy because they need a games controller as that’s all they see. Not the marketing model. I feel the same is being done here. Problems reaching markets with each newer product slightly different from past DLCs. But past DLCs content seem to be left in the state it was in on previous titles. (Defect wise that is). Here Harry I have been vocal about what I see happening and in some ways think about how long this can go on. People will have enough. I have plenty of times with DTG. I come back tho being tempted because in away I have faith DTG will get there if not now with TSW6 routes. Perfect right now and will say thank you to all the teams at DTG. Especially doing so after the sad news about Chris Edward’s. (PS need some advice on that matter). But after leaving feedback on the dedicated threads nothing has been fixed. Even stuff from TSW2. Lazy then, are DTG being lazy, or greedy?. Or Human. Here dealing with what I do in the livery game then I have work that reached CC with issues on. Have I fixed them tho, NO!. I intended to but new business doesn’t wait and so more new products get made while the old get left in the dark.*See below example. If I do that then I can see when more resources are at risk why DTG chooses the strategy it has with yearly releases. Yet that too is leaving a sense of what’s the point or users lashing out in an aggressive manner. Look back at how this game made me. I see that and have learned my lessons, when feeling unheard if leaving any comments or even setting a thread up, “Has the Love Gone For TSW” and is similar in nature to the topic here today. To discuss with no emotional energy in the room just clear logic and understanding between any parties involved. Yet that takes logic to control a person emotional state for it to be evident of how bad it has become for some and so would suggest any persons frustration left will blow up to the extent it has here if logic has left the room. And like I say I have learnt my lessons when it comes to thinking DTG would be transparent about what I feel is a massive problem that’s been around since TSW2/TSW3. Small issues that do mount up to be one big problem, and when emotions are at play or in an emotional charged room nothing will ever come good of that. But for that to happen is evident to how bad it has become for some. Customers getting frustrated at the quality of products and more so when nothing gets resolved years later. Why being honest with you here Harry I wasn’t going buy TSW6 if nothing was said about the Class 47 ECML Tour pack. I wanted it so bad for the white wheels and find I have non. A few hours work and a few quid wasted. And why if after leaving feedback on such a small issue has it been left behind. Can you not see that if I am left with faulty products all the time customer confidence will drop. Each year it will get worse because in TSW2 I had a hand full of issues but now I have a bag full because each year leaves newer issues. When does it end. When a person walks away silently taking business elsewhere. Or when these cry’s of frustration be warranted or not is an human emotion or state of mind, the same as being happy or sad be finally addressed by DTG. Something has to give. And if these opinions are warranted or not, after a few days of release the signs are there. Meaning will TSW7 have less interest and where will TSW7 go in ways of new features to draw new customers in be. A tipping point. Or the last time anyone could act before it all goes pop. I have put my two bit in because I’m frustrated that DTG can provide exactly what I want and what others do too. I spend so much time in LD that when I drive a route now or even in older routes like the London Commute route it’s so exciting for me often leaving me gob smacked at how it all gets put together. The details etc. It saddens me to speak like I do or hear others complaining but we do have a right to pass judgment freely. Freely yes but in away that means something or is considered constructive even if it’s discussing a topic that’s been around for some time. Transparency. I believe in being transparent when it serves the moment even if it seems a wrong move now. It’s a risk or showing truth even weakness. But it’s a necessity if control or power is to be preserved. Hence DTG take control of the narrative or situation before that situation or tipping point comes to ahead later on down the line. Because in business one happy person hardly shares there opinions, yet unhappy customer speak to everyone and so a bad reputation is born and a company is fighting for customer satisfaction even before a product is sold. Therefore quality will sell itself and bring in new customers without hardly lifting a finger. Ie does GTA6 need to win customers back or gain new ones. No the name does all that for Rockstar Games. Please as a fan and loyal customer of TSW franchise I want each year to be one of joy and celebration of new purchase, with all past DLC content working as described in there original release format. Fix the past because again the past can catch up to us all. Don’t let bad memories or opinions ruin hard work done in the past or now with TSW6. It must be hard for the teams at DTG to feel like this is a push all the time by spending hours devoted to promoting. Fix the core problem that needs to addressed and I think customers will stay or return if they feel products new today even with faults would normally be left when the next title comes out is a thing of the past. If not cycle continues the company reputation declines and it will take more to win used support back. DTG has a monopoly and a niche market but kings can’t be kings forever if they don’t understand the people. In life and in business the wolfs are always watching and waiting for when a person or company is at its weakest. Could be days could be years. They only strike when one that moment is right. And for DTG to stay king then you as company must never give any company or one person that chance. It only take one to bring down an empire if left unchecked uncontrolled. Company like plans and information spread from many users or many formats. A plan means some one can plan against those yet no plan of something that would be considered is impossible could be seen as the unexpected. So please DTG don’t let us and the wolfs keep getting what we have now come to expect from TSW products, give us the unexpected. Move on with the past firmly behind you. *Example. And I shan’t keep you much longer but stay with me. The file for this livery is from 2022. I knew one day the class 52 would rain again and so scrubbed this out on TSW2,3,4,5 and now it’s time. Time to reinvent the past and why I have introduced something new and exciting for TSW and for the community. I will explain more on the true nature of that theme for my point is this. I could have fixed this at any point for subscribers but what did I do. Move on to the most recent DLCS. So yes I see how DTG could do the same to keep things fresh for customers or new customers. But please don’t forget the old fans too. Some care more than you know. Don’t lose them, listen to them. Let them be your supporters with logic not a foe with anger born from frustration. Show weakness now to gain power of the narrative later on. Thanks for reading if you do. I don’t want you to even respond. Listening and acting will do the trick. And for your sanity I’m done now. I’ve said what I feel I needed to add or what needs to be said publicly in a constructive manner away from direct criticism of any individual and one of that DTG has responsibility to act. For clarification nothing is directly aimed at your or intended to be interpreted as being aimed at you. It’s not. It’s a company with the responsibility. A Team, not the individual. Lee✌. PS. You can be the first member of TSW Preservation Group if you like, could even be head chairman. Just a bit of fun for the community that’s all. I understand if not being in your position.
All DLC except the Expert loco stuff, so I trimmed it down to just UK stuff for now. Once I'm done with the Riviera Line, I'll delete all UK stuff, and just install US stuff. I'd like to have all of the content installed all of the time, but with the increased time to load and the multiple crashed in attempting to do so, it's simply not worth it currently. Maybe it will finally work for me okay on Microsoft's next console...
Interesting, I’m curious how it loads when it’s less or if it’s still a problem. I do know mine seemed to take forever the first time I loaded everything and then after the initial load it’s been better. I had a similar issue in TSW 5 and then deleted everything and reinstalled and that seemed to fix it, but that was more than likely a bit of luck and me cleaning up a lot more on my HDD. Hopefully there is some fix for you so you can have everything installed.
I'm going to attempt formatting the SSD card and do a fresh install, but I'm not overly hopeful. It did boot up the very first time first try, which lead me to believe that maybe it was a TSW5 issue, but that was seemingly just a fluke.
Nope playstation. Why is downloading such a bug deal. Its a game. Your life isn't dependant on it. It isn't a source of income. It's really not a bug deal
Yup. Why would you need ALL the routes straight away? I just downloaded the three new ones. Then two or three of my fav layers/stock. I did it bit by bit as/when needed.
Why would I need to redownload content I own multiple times? Yeah I wouldn't mind redownloading content if I got paid for it, unfortunately, I don't, so it becomes an issue.
I absolutely agree that the game needs to be better optimised - I've spent (too) many hours on every iteration from TSW 2020 to TSW 6 and a small fortune on DLC so I'm painfully aware that there are issues. As for "belittling your experience" however, seriously? I am however challenging your comment. You wrote that the game "crashes 99% of the time" so either (1) there's an issue with your console (or SSD card), or (2) the statement is an exaggeration. Either way, crashes 99% of the time are manifestly not the current state of the game on XBOX Series X or none of us with a ton of installed DLC would be able to play it at all. That's plainly not the case, and I didn't want your comment to stand unchallenged as "fact" regarding the current state on XBOX - the last thing we need is to put people off playing when there is a playable (and decent) game in there. That said, it sounds like we both have a ton of time and money invested in the game and have had a far from perfect experience, so I get where you're coming from.
Because I shouldn’t have to re-download the same…stuff every damn year, tsw is like one out of 3 games I still actively play, so one gets quite depressed when you can’t do stuff since it affects the download speed also I’m the person that takes screenshots every day in tsw so it’s really annoying when shots are affected by lack of layers (day 609 btw)
If someone is done with DTG it mean they are not happy. They are board frustrated and had enough LOVE that is taking place with in DTG. It means they are not having fun what so ever.
I think exactly the same as you it's not really a issue at all, it just appears that humanity is slowly losing its ability to do absolutely anything and wants everything on a silver platter before them......
THANK YOU! People keep referring to it as an 'Issue' while it is merely I minor inconvenience to something that doesn't and shouldn't affect your life
I've already made a list of all the "issues" with it, that I could think of. Now, I know for a fact that you are going to dismiss every single argument anyway, so I can't even be arsed to paste in here, but it's in my profile somewhere, you can search for it if you are interested.
How many times do people have to tell you for you to finally get it?, hell the download issue wouldn’t be as bad if we could download during early access
3 days it took exactly 3 beeping days for my stuff to download or in other words not being able to play any other game for any good amount of time or risk it taking longer. Honestly I truly despise people like you that don’t seem to understand not everyone wants to go through this beep every year for a “game” with barely any new upgrades or features to justify it
"Risk it taking longer" its not a life or death situation or something that will affect your life. If its such a problem for you, I wouldn't like to see what you'd do with real life problems.
All im saying is it doesn't affect your life in any way so there is no reason whatsoever to justify it
Do you really need a reason as to why people don’t like downloading upto half a TB of content every year? I have great broadband so it’s only a minor inconvenience for me, but it’s still something I’d rather not be doing every 12 months.
I understand why it's a minor convenience. What I don't understand is referring to it as a major 'issue'.
Exactly this, particularly bearing in mind the DLC itself is for the most part the same. All it has is a TSW6 "watermark" on it which could easily be done by copying from your existing install (subject to HD space) and patching as necessary. In the case of the PS5 version we got the same old nonsense of it downloading the older versions of the content (TSW4) even though great pains taken to grab the correct one and we were assured wouldn't be a problem this time around. And at the end of the day, all this for a game that looks and runs exactly like its predecessor with a few bits of added fluff.
Like I said, it’s a minor inconvenience for me because it doesn’t take much time. The level of inconvenience is going to vary based on download speeds & that’s going to get compared to the benefits of the redownload in the first place (of which there are very few, if any). Did anyone actually refer to it as a major issue? I think it just gets mentioned a lot because a number of people see it as an unnecessary process.
Many people would view an inconvenience as an issue though, no? I was mainly asking why you were so insistent on people justifying viewing it as a “major issue” even though no one seems to have described it as being major, other than you. The one person you’ve been back & forth with also gave their reason - they couldn’t access content they wanted to as it was a large download, thus were left unhappy by that process.
