Why don't steam fans just chip in £100 each to raise £1 million to create the best steam route? DTG will see the seriousness of the fans' intentions and will be more bold in releasing steam routes.
I would financially support a crowdfunded steam DLC if it meant the steam simulation was finished - but we've never been given the chance.
Not crowdfunding and certainly not £100, but when Matt mentioned 7F's, 9F's and the Somerset and Dorset in the Dogcast clip, I would support that as a normal purchase. Even if the steam performance wasn't radically altered from what we have now, just need to break this endless cycle of modern routes.
Hell I would pay more but at the same time I do plan to pick up modelling after finishing university and getting a pc so give it 5 years I may get one out if things go okay Honestly it will probably take longer since I’m wanting to be a contractor so who knows if that will ever actually happen
It sounds like a bunch of excuses. Raising money on a crowdfunding platform isn't a problem these days. You'll immediately get a sense of how many true fans are willing to pay. Otherwise, it turns out that DTG has to risk money on content that's not clear how many players will need it. Personally, I'm not interested in Steam at all.
I somehow doubt DTG are on their knees for cash. AFAIK they still have the big office in Chatham which can’t be cheap to lease. They just had a massive cash injection with TSW6 and the content packs plus the Steam-sale probably brought Ina fair wad of cash from people fleshing out their back catalogue. If they were in dire straits they’d be like Auran/N3V two or three people running the thing from their home studies. No, DTG’s biggest problem is timidity or at least over cautious when contemplating ventures that go outside their established norms. They also seem thin on the ground for production and technical staff, vis Matt”s comments on the Dogchat video clip about “engineering” and why they can’t prioritise the save game slots, or people with sufficient knowledge to sort out the steam traction physics. Which is why we are getting modern EMU’s and DMU’s with simple (and even then sometimes wrong) acceleration and braking curves.
Why don't you want to make an advance payment and "risk" your money? These standards suit most people. What's the point for DTG to risk money making content interesting to 3.5 anonymous people, so that they can hear it later?: "Oh, it's too expensive," "Oh, I'll think about buying it," and other excuses?
It's funny how these topics bring out modern fans who either suggest wild ideas or feel threated that a potential return of steam would mean one or two less modern routes, which we have plenty of already. Why comment on a steam focused thread in the first place if you don't care about it? Anyway, moving on. Doing more steam increases TSW's overall variety, it's a good thing on that basis alone. There's a growing third party market on TS Classic that sell nothing but steam locomotives, they sell well enough to keep going because they put out high quality products. None of these developers will move over to TSW because they've said the base physics are not good enough. In fact, one of these third parties started making the Hayling Island Branch with an L&BSCR Terrier and put the project on ice when DTG said they weren't working on steam for the foreseeable future. If DTG went back and sorted their core simulation out, these third parties would have a solid foundation in which to build new steam content. Overall, it's just annoying how the most important part of railway history hasn't been given the care and respect it deserves.
Like previously mentioned I still need to finish university first, I’m currently on a course where I can’t have a job so can’t work on development myself. but I will definitely pay as much money as I can to get more steam in this game
Who the hell is going to pay without an assurance that if enough money is raised something will happen?
Agreed. Steam in TSW has potential but DTG isn't letting out its cage (so to speak).. I don't care that the physics are wrong/need fixing, I want to see more steam and pre-1970 stock in TSW even if it just a pack for an existing route
Why would DTG release a product if it wasn't certain that it would bring in enough money to at least break even?
Honestly I agree. Something useful for SOS like a Jinty for station pilot duties around Lime St. and Crewe and or something like the Stanier 4P for suburban runs would be amazing. What seems kinda odd to me is DTG don't seem to want to fix the steam physics and say steam stuff doesn't sell well but are all too keen to push the Flying Scotsman and SoS/Peak Forest DLCs into new routes as railtour layers. Also for those who say if you want steam just play TSC. Why should steam fans have to be stuck with a game that is coming on near 20 years old that barely gets any updates but modern traction fans get to enjoy a shiny new game with frequent updates?? The money from steam fans is there for TSW, that much is evident with people constantly asking for it both on the forums and in the roadmap livestream chats. DTG just need to put the effort in to fixing the steam physics like they said they were going to shortly before they decided to just give up on it instead.
You do realise first steam route did make even and hell it made enough to get an upgrade in tsw 3. And honestly the other two would have been the same if they added just a bit more to it
They’re still including the existing steam locomotives on the newest route timetables as railtours. If the locos were really as bad as some people make them out to be, I’m sure they wouldn’t still be included. If DTG doesn’t want to create entirely new routes for brand-new steam locomotives, I’d be perfectly happy if they at least released standalone loco packs that could be layered in as railtours and added to the WSR timetable.
That’s what we have been saying at this point, honestly the way they made two main lines while only having 3 steam trains at the time is what killed sales. it’s like only having the 87 and 47 on west coast mainline. It’s just feels empty and wrong
