A bit of an odd/random question, directed towards my German friends on here, but the thought popped into my head the other day while I was jamming out to Rammstein at the gym; Do Germans listen to and enjoy Rammstein? I got into the band while I was in high school and learning German, my teacher actually had us listen to Du Hast on our first day, and I've been a fan ever since, but I sort of get the impression that they are more popular outside of Deutschland than they are in. Thoughts?
I mean there are some but it's definitely not mainstream. it was bigger in the past. I wouldn't say its thing, more a niche for 30/40+ people. there are some young people hearing that kind of music but again a small minority. especially because the front singer till Lindemann had a very big sex scandal about a year ago
I living in the UK have heard and listened to a few of the albums from the mid 2000s. Not really my taste tho more a Crash Test Dummies or Alice in Chains, Mud Honey etc guy. The grunge scene before Slipknot or Korn kinda changed the whole deal. Oh can’t forget my best band for the 90s, 2000s, Wheezer. The blue album. As already mentioned due to certain cases against the main member and general drop in that type of music popularity I no longer have interest. Yet for Trance and Dub music or HedKandi. Ministry of Sound then I’m still all over that. Scooter from Germany I was loving back in 94 and still have many of their original albums released. Even things like Kontor are still good today as they were back in the day. Some super smashing stuff still left from the 2000s. Yet for Rammstein I’d say the days of being great are over. He’s with the Lizard people now ✌.
I heard a bunch of familiar stuff and thought someone on the estate was blasting a 90s album earlier this summer only to discover there was a Scooter gig in the park. Looked at the promo pictures on the website and was like "More like Mobility Scooter, amirite?"
Well I think that’s what the OP is trying to establish in their original country origin, Germany. Are they still popular there as world wide. I wouldn’t know that with being in the UK yet as you say do people still listen to Rammstien. Well if after 15-20 years you’ve not bothered nor have I as mentioned then to answer your question I think here in the UK their hay day is behind them. Could be wrong tho because I don’t have much interest in that yet Marilyn Manson’s new stuff is good s#*t if you was to ask me. He’s been around since the 90s with some heavy publicity on his back, yet regardless of what some may say He is the most talented intelligent man I know in main stream music, even to this day. Watch some of his interviews like on the Jerry Springer show. JERRY!, JERRY!, Rest his Soul. ✌.
Touché Okay I will admit after so long and you could say at an age Scooter members are it’s seems a bit lame, corny even. Yet being there back in the day at say Mr Smiths or Wigan pier or clubs in general then hearing music from other countries changed how the UK music scene changed I’d say. Going from a rave scene to more dance or club. Techno then Trance. Prodigy did that by going from what be classed as underground music or again rave or illegal raves. Prodigy moved from that to more mainstream music after The Fat of the Land album. So yes live etc Scooter shows are wild and naughty too. (Not the Mobile Scooter type ask Wayne Rooney about them Scooter and music like Gatecrasher (I’m listening to that at the moment, Classic 2.) still have some great vibes and sound to them. Especially the first two album’s imported via Andy’s Records, an actual shop in the 90s. Any road all keeps me going while creating as does chilled dub to concentrate too. Some call it programming music. What every music is called these day I love a bit of classic trance music. Even some Enya, Clannad. ✌.
How much does Playstation as a brand owe to how Psygnosis were able to so perfectly tap into that moment in the culture?
Oh yeah! It's fantastic to work out to! I'll usually put on one of their live concerts while I'm on the bike, either them or Daft Punk.
This reminds me, I keep hearing that I need to check out supposedly the one good thing about the new Tron film - a new Nine Inch Nails album.
The single that NIN released for the movie was good, I haven't listened to the rest of the album yet. On a related note, I DJ for my uncle that runs a haunted trail on his property on weekends in October. I was playing NIN the other night, and a group of teenagers walk past and go "Yeah! House music!"... I rolled my eyes *so* damn hard, haha.
I think my earlier "Mobility Scooter" remark is increasingly applying to all of us here Insert Grandpa Simpson meme.
You've just reminded me that I really want a new Lemmings game... or at least a port of Lemmings and Lemmings 2: The Tribes on modern systems.
I hope I’m reading this right but as you have said to another user commenting I think you’d have to be there. Either in the clubs scenes where a lot of change took place, so did technology. Be games computers or phones. I felt society was free, too free. Yet world wide the internet has brought us closer, speeding up many advancements in games say. Small ideas of games entertainment console for fun. Now today it’s a massive industry worth billions. Yet again something that seemed innocent in the 90s has in many ways added yet also taken away. Could we clubbers having a time of our lives with no great worries of what’s happening with lame celebrities all fake. War and that phone which in the 90s was just a phone. We controlled it not it controlling our lives. Research says an average person spend 5 to 8 ours on a phone. same with playing games, when kids an hour then of with our mates. Now companies to gain more revenue develop games targeting the age demographic whose lives are based around their friends even peer pressure to play or hang out on the major games. GTA where kids stay up for hours even pull all nighters. Drinking energy drinks vaping F,ing an Jeffing all night long. All stressed, rage quitting or lobbing a controller at the wall. Angry kids demanding money for skins to keep up with the Jones’s. Money, money while a child’s life even schooling deteriorates. Then walking the streets like wanna be gangster or just plain lazy playing games with mates that don’t go school either. Home life becomes a living hell for others living in that householder. (A Kevin, Ie Kevin & Perry, 90s comedy sketch show. Harry Enfield and friends). Non of that as a child for me. We enjoyed, and put the game down. We had girls to chase or just be kids. If we could see where innocent entertainment consoles have taken us would the world be the way it is by following blindly through life as time passes. Is that your point or question about being pragmatic now and not dogmatic. Back then society felt free, not a care in the world. No social media which today in some forms has taken all carefree living away. And replaced in a world where fear is not far away. To follow the majority (The masses) or Watch it all unfold. I knew this and seen it coming. A time of hope for the future yet again I seen the plan, and so knew it wasn’t going be a bright one. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for change and advancement in our world. Only if it means we as Humans remain so. For what seems a good idea now might not always appear as so. Like the creation of Ai is used for many things now, also to make new diseases. And for Man. Nice. So 20, 30 years from now will we all be living in concrete city’s. In a small room with nothing but Games and computers because our life’s have become so reliant on technology living in fear of what is fed to them. Society becomes a slave to it and not its Master. Sony will just be another global corporation with power. Anyway hope I read what you wrote right, if not I shall bid you good day and climb back under my rock before continuing this gobbledygook nonsense some might not understand. ✌.
Daft Punk, They will send you “Around the World”. I think the music they provided for the Movie Tron is super smashing great. ✌.
It was mostly a rhetorical "oh my god, would this console have had remotely anywhere near the cultural traction it gained without the draw of having something which associated its brand so heavily with the club scene of the time?" Like, I remember seeing how much the advertising and branding for the console got that surge right there and then with the release of the first two Wipeout titles, and began to lean heavily into branding around that association in a way that the established major console manufacturers had not, there was a huge untapped older audience beginning to take shape from the children we'd all been in the 80s, lots of us moving on from our Master Systems and Amigas, and Sony's marketing people caught on quick to where untapped appeal outside of the conventionally understood market for games lay.
Boo Okay yes I fully follow you now. And you’re bang on too because I had to get Wipeout omega collection because it was such an ace game back then, still is if the whole music track theme is ya cuppa of tea. Even on PS1/2 they had those club mixing games. Still have one or two somewhere. Carl Cox comes to mind. But I fully get where your coming from and I will agree because many early music artist were also given that chance to brake out with Sonys vision towards the whole scenes developing right before all our very eyes. A real time of change, be technical or socially it was all happening. Even the Oasis vs Blur lol. Sega vs Nintendo then bamb Sony comes along and taps into the older consoles market. Which as you say would have given those like myself the opportunity to get involved developing games and that’s where the whole game scene starts you could say. Then more ways to socially interact and generally more creative freedom now for kids of the past. Again to be there in the 80s 90s and it’s will be clear to see, what we kids had back then too against what kids have today, (Yet still moan lol). I think it’s fair to agree it all gave those like me that for clarification didn’t jump into games development yet wish I did. Well as a kid playing games I wanted more realistic gameplay. Especially on car games. NfS was my favourite on PS1, yet as a young kid I’d dream of being free, drive anywhere. Like an open would motorway game. I even started creating drafts for games. Which as the years passed seen others develop like GTA and the Crew, then Forza. The technology advanced and with that those kids wishing they could have what we have today went to work. The game markets of today was born in the 90s. It was mostly aimed at kids but I did feel Sega was close yet lagging behind with keeping hold of the arcade game style still. Sony seen that gap. Cd player and DVD with a 32 bit drive. What more could a kid want. The sega dreamcast tried but was to late for the market Sony hit them all so hard. I ponder how much Microsoft thrown at getting Xbox going where many new or leading companies failed to take Sony head on. I’m waffling tho. Music is like it always has been in younger generations a driving force behind societal change. It’s broken off into many different forms or styles. So have games and why today it’s so important to many life’s because gaming this era the one we’re living is the hight of online games and all that. The music isn’t a driving force now, games are and so again are a vital part to how we live our lives today. Kids play, even adults play. The kids of yesterday enjoying what they could only dreamed of back in the day. You could say what DTG has given players over the years. It’s not been easy and today still have questions about quality. That aside did kids of the 90s have what TSW gives now, nope. I guess that’s why it’s here and we play. Upto 15s and day and why I’m late responding. Passed out so feel behind with work. See I call it work now now play, and why is that. Well because TSW can offer possible opportunities to be involved with development of games or other means like YT etc. Do we play games for fun now or as a way to be socially integrated with others or to make money on the side. I think that’s where we’re at now. Nothing wrong with that either it’s just the natural progression of things. Why I think what’s next for the future, even though it might seem bleak in how input it last time we spoken. It will happen because games or even movies have written that path. Look at the young working class of China or Japan. They sleep in work booths. Not a big house or room. A booth with just a computer. The world has a new show and everyone wants in begging to be heard. To loud for me, so I just sit back like I have done since a child and watch it all unfold. Sat in my little room creating liveries. I’d go the pub or clubs but they’re all gone now. No place for the old and decrepit wheeling on to the dance floor In the mood for some Orbital now tho thinking about the old tunes from Wipeout. Anyway I will say it’s been a real pleasure having a little chat with you, please forgive me if I go on or up and down. I have some personal issues going like, missing meds due to poor sleep pattern so can mean I’m odd at time to time. Plus the poor OP must be wondering what’s going on, so I’ll get off like. Catch you around tho, and again been a real pleasure, so take it easy. ✌.
You're good! It's a forum, it's public, we're supposed to have free and open conversations! This is how we make friends in a world that's not exactly friendly to anyone at the moment, so please, by all means... I enjoy reading peoples' personal stories and stuff.
Psygnosis only published that game. The developers were DMA Design, who are now Rockstar North and busy with other, much more lucrative things. More on-topic: Rammstein isn't as popular as they once were (at least not in continental Europe), and no longer score hits. But their shows always sell out, and each album release at least gets some attention, so they're not complete has-beens. Scooter only do well on "remember the 90s" style affairs, where they stand next to other geriatric acts like 2Unlimited, 2 Brothers on the 4th Floor, Dance 2 Trance and anything else with 130 bpm and a "2" in the act's name. Prodigy is a different beast altogether - they never lost popularity here, probably because they managed to carve out their own niche. When Keith died, they even had a number 1 hit again (Firestarter of course).
Hello, now you’re not just saying that to be nice. I know how waffling on is one of my biggest drawbacks, trust me I’ve tried everything even down to stitching my mouth shut but the stitches can’t hold And that’s so true about friends and the world. I don’t mind saying things were so bad I withdrew from society. I don’t go out do social media only here and the odd other place. I’ve found be online or driving around in the real world for me it’s just way to for me to see how bad man has become. Not a conversation or topic for anyone tho and I must remember not everyone wants to see truth. I’m not the type of guy to chat about nonsense all day be football or even the latest news form DTG. I do my own thing because as you rightly say the world is in a pretty bad shape. So is mankind’s. Why I try live my life like a Simple Man. (Lynard Skynyrd) Guess that’s why music has been around since the dawn of man, To escape the madness and those who sing tell of tales that often about the plague that is man. Ie if interested in music then A Tergo Lupi, “Heal the Tree” is a good one. And can’t forget Heilung, the track “Krigsgaldr” would give you some idea that we never set the world on fire Or could you have a listen to Lambrini Girls WARNING 18, hahaha. Any hey thank you, I know I’m not everyone’s cuppa of tea. But hey we’re not all perfect so man can learn to become close to perfect. Just as our creators intended. The test to see if we are capable of becoming a success or a failure. The purpose life? Anyway I’m waffling again. Have a check of those tracks tho, might be an eye opener if not into them already that is. I’ve been listening to all shorts of music from 20s Blues to well some of the stuff we have today. You could say I’m “Cool for Cats” Squeeze. Hahaha. Later Martz ✌.
