Tsw Becoming So Poor That Legal Action May Soon Be Appropriate.

Might as well include yourself as well

 

The fact some individuals try and rant and complain to DTG to try and make some sort of change is laughable.


What are they expecting them to do? Cry? They don't give a damn.

Unfortunately, the higher ups at DTG have been like this for YEARS. Nothing, no matter how much ranting you do, no matter how many facts you pull up, they'll never change. This has been their business model, since the beginning. This was their plan all along. The people with degrees that don't even care about the railway have caused DTGs business model to be so uncanny and weird in the first place.

From me, I've given up complaining about the problems in this game, and just accepted them, there's no point in raising issues, with a QA that's in total disarray.


This isn't an attack on the DTG community managers or devs, I believe they are talented and amazing individuals, who do genuinely try their best with what they have, but DTG, and TSW for that matter, is being let down by the people in charge of this business model and company. And unfortunately, this is how it is.

 

Tsw does not have a multiplayer foundation and it is a much bigger game compared to metro rivals which makes it difficult to implement something.

Metro rivals was built from the start with mp in mind. Tsw doesn't and it's too large of a game now to implement mp. Metro rivals isalso built in ue5 to begin with no dlc so it's easier.

If tsw ever came to ue5, you would have to start from scratch. Would you be happy with that or would you still complain

 

In the begining, Matt did mention multiplayer coming to TSW, but ye all forget that! DTG have started from scratch with train racing in UE5 and TSW6 can paddle its own with third party devs and a load of bugs that will never be fixed.

 

Sorry i think you will create here a story but thats far from reality. DTG has different teams and they do different things. If you watch closely to the presentation video you noticed that this team is different than the ones that work with TSW. Besides that for DTG is TSW a very important way of income so that makes no sense to ditch TSW.

 

There are some ridiculous threads on this forum but this one takes the cake.

Try taking this argument to a lawyer. If they’re a good lawyer, they’ll send you away. If they’re not, they’ll take your case/money and you’ll still end up with nothing.

Honestly, it boggles my mind how much some people here hate something that should be fun. And if it’s not fun, why pay to play it?

 

Best legal action is to stop spending money on the game. That hits the developers far harder than any fantasy legal case. For software you do not own and only licence to use.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

BOYCOTTS
NEVER
WORK.

Cutting off profit to a game dev is going to stop them from improving in the first place, and inevitably makes the quality worse. No one would win in a boycott, both sides of that would be shooting themselves. Everyone suffers the consequences of that.

And for the devs and community managers of this company, it's extremely unfair on them too, as the company would lose money.

 

I think all that's needed to turn things around is for the community to line up outside the dtg studio and give the team a hug as they turn up for work tomorrow morning.

 

In the EU the maximum you can do is ask your money back from the shop where you bought it (Steam, XBox or ...) But then must demonstrate the product is not good, e.g. not working. I think you may have a chance if actually nothing is delivered and you cannot strat the game. For such cases there is a refund policy. If you want more, your opponents will point you to the streams and reviews eventually. There is practically no chance to win a case in cour, also because I will happily state the product is quite good, though not perfect.

 

Pathetic response this. What exactly are these “few hours of bugs”?. I play on PS5 and I’m not experiencing them. There are very few texture issues from what I can see and these will be patched. I noticed the branches when running from Plymouth, and one or two around Teignmouth. So we’re talking about 9-10 trees (if that!) over a 60 mile route - which again will be fixed. Honestly, get a grip.

 

No chance not ever.

 

Why are you shouting, poor manners i guess. I am not bothered if DTG exist or not. I have plenty of other games to play.

 

It’s more like 100 trees, some floating, some clipping the cab and honestly probably a few more. Also going off other routes it’s very unlikely these will be fixed.

from my own experience on the series X the sea still disappears at times and burly textures for no reason

 

Why are you calling for the developers to be hit harder? Guess that's also poor manners.

Perhaps you have forgotten that the developers have nothing to do with the games business strategies, and are just trying to do their job with what they have. they're the ones paying for the consequences of what the people in charge of DTG do.

 

Did you even read what I wrote! Clearly you are not understanding what i am saying about DTG forcing someone to upgrade.

I have never said anything about legal action in my post and agree that it is ridiculous.

 

I was happy to get my £30 back. Annoying you was an unexpected bonus.

 

I’m willing to bet you’re one of those people who complains to Nestle when there’s no wafer in your KitKat.

 

For what pointing out stuff that the beta testers are meant to find?, do enjoy having broken stuff?

 

I’m simply pointing out that gloating because you got a £30 refund is, indeed, pathetic.

 

I always thought that a bonus actually, more chocolate!

 

To the hug or turning things around

 

But I wasn’t the one that refunded it?, that was the other guy.

there’s only been one route that I refunded and that was scotrail express because of the amount of problem it had at the time and also the fact I didn’t feel comfortable knowing I spent £30 one of the lowest addons, bought MML after

 

I never said DTG will ditch TSW, they have ditched their responsibilty to fix bugs within TSW. DTG seem to want to stand back and let third party devs create DLCs. Freeing DTG up to create a new product or fix bugs.

Don't take what you see on camera as thats the team, there are more than you see, probably not a lot more.

 

Sorry, yea this was for the guy who was getting hit in the face with branches every 30 seconds.

 

Absolutely winning at life when that happens!! Closest feeling you’ll get to Charlie Bucket opening that Wonka bar

 

All those reasons why i stopped liking TSW ... Now the bloat is about TSW6, cannot even find the pricing and what's the content.
Mentioning a 2025 Autumn sale, leaves are falling now in Europe, yes, but where's the checkout?
Getting fed up with what old modules need the old and often buggy TSW versions to run, or if the run on tsw6.
The website and steam pages are one big confusing mess it seems.

 

Let me know how all that goes...
I'll be busy driving trains.

 

Autumn sale on Steam has been and gone with a week long encore from DTG themselves. Kind of hard to miss…

Next one will be in around two months over Christmas and New Year so not long to wait. And if events follow suit from previous years, DTG will then have their own festival of rail event sometime in February, followed hot on the heels by Steam Spring sale.

 

Someone clearly didnt read the thread properly. I stated very clearly in the thread further along that I have no intent to take any action. It was just to point out that if someone was going to they may have a chance. Im not a lawyer I may be totally wrong, but im clearly not alone in the thought that DTG are going heavily in the wrong direction, focusing on pumping new content out before fixing or updating the years old bugs and content.

But be my guest, get your shots in where you can

 

Then why post such a clickbait title? If you wanted a general moan about the state of the game there’s already several threads available including the behemoth Enough Is Enough one.

 

Wasnt a clickbait. Thats exactly what I spoke about. What is there to gain from posting on a forum I'm not gonna see any money from views. I said my point. Cleared up any misunderstandings people had with my original post. And let people work away. Leave it at that.

 

Hug buddy, they are not my kind of people.

 

Actually that did happen to me many years ago. Believe it or not, I mailed it back to Hershey ( the licensee here in the US ) and a little while later, I received a huge box of Hershey products in the mail with an apology.

 

I totally agree , couldn't put it much better myself,The game has it's short comings but I feel legal action is over the top , probably the same person that complains like hell about the bugs in the game only to go and have a three hour gaming session after

 

Is it ?. I feel TSW is doing a bit better. Content has been pretty good recently. Much better than when we were in the TSW3 days. Only good thing that came out of TSW3 was Niddertalbahn.

 

Can I sue a alcohol brand because it costs more to get me drunk.now?

 

Oh no poor old* DTG Matt will be all hugged out before he starts work tommorow :p

Not too old mind

 

Can I sue Irish Ferries because the £9 kid's breakfast was tiny and awful?

 

Or Spoons because the fish and chips we had in the Oxford one on Thursday was considerably smaller than the one in Gloucester on Tuesday!

 

Which Oxford spoons are we talking about, I have connection to all of them, willi Morris, 4 candles or swan and castle.....

 

Am I the one singular person in Britain who's never been to a wetherspoons?

 

Quite possibly my dude, tragically I'm in a spoons somewhere nearly every single work day, I have no escape......

 

It was the one next to the Westgate shopping centre, just up from the bus stops. Swan and Castle probably.

 

4 candles or fork handles.

 

Only if you have the bottle to do it

 

Yep that's swan and castle, there every Friday chucking beer down the lift, normally being an annoyance to the people in the flats above.....

 

Well that's just childish

 

If you go there you're going to want to be stabbed with both.....