Loco Class 86 Loco - Master Feedback Thread

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  1. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Why has the 86 been removed as a playable option on TSW6?

    We've spent money on it. Why has it been removed.
     
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  2. star#5823

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    Platform bug not whole tsw 6
     
  3. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Not a bug. Screenshot_20251020-190617.png
     
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  5. marcsharp2

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    Still not a bug though, a choice by either DTG or Just Trains to not have it as a driveable loco for PS5.
     
  6. Tonto62

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    I'm on PS5, just checked and I have the 86 and 87. I did have to restore licence last week to make it work though.
     
  7. GWRKingClass

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    How strange, my setup is on PC, and for some reason it's not showing. Even with all the layers selected and after uninstalling and reinstalling?
     
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    (Screenshots showing it present in TSW5 but only available in scenarios in TSW6)
     
  9. star#5823

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    Anyways to take a guess it’s probably linked to the upcoming class 86/4 since we are probably getting new services for it and knowing this game’s core code something broke for awhile
     
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  10. GWRKingClass

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    That's what I suspect, I've asked JT about it so hopefully will have more details on it. It's not ideal but at least it's working in TSW5 for the moment.
     
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  11. JT Benedict

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    Just to confirm the Class 86/2 and Class 87 are meant to be playable on Preston - Carlisle as there has been no change our end between the TSW5 and TSW6 builds (The patch is still in progress and we hope to submit it to DTG soon).

    A workaround I have found is uninstalling the Class 31.
     
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  12. star#5823

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    Since you are here, I would like to ask is there any plans to fix the mk2s side panels for disappearing mid journey? 44463c64-d34e-441a-91dd-cc03bc172bbe.png Photo for reference the second and third coaches are missing them, this was ultrasonic train but it has happened on Preston to Carlisle

    platform being the Xbox series X but I think it’s on a few others as well
     
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    Does this only occur in photo mode or does it occur all the time?
     
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    All the time, normally a few seconds before or after blurry textures happen or at least that’s when I’ve mostly noticed it.

    on the Preston to Carlisle side it happens more randomly and honestly hadn’t figured why yet but could possibly be linked to the use of photo mode during a run.

    also ps sorry for the bad photo it was just the first one of mine that I could find
     
  15. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Any news on the class 86/2 bogies, Ben?
     
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    Okay I figured it out, it’s caused by using photo mode a certain amount of times. Basically the game freezes until you go back into photo mode and then for rest of the run your coaches will appear and disappear.

    still doing a bit more testing to see if it’s caused by blurry textures or that was photo mode again.

    I do apologise for messing up and saying it happened all the time since I completely forgot about how often I actually use photo mode

    anyways I will probably be back in a hour after doing testing on the Riviera line to see if anything else causes this bug
     
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    We'll be having a look at it soon, I think it has something to do with suspension.
     
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    Update

    it just seems to be photo mode that causes this glitch to happen, so no clue who’s in charge of fixing.

    Blurry textures seem to have no affect towards the side panels disappearing, this could of be luck but high chance they aren’t a factor anymore

    Idk if any of this actually helps but hopefully one day this is fixed
     
  19. GWRKingClass

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    Thank you for the clarification on this, much appreciated. I think I'll try removing the 31. Out of interest, would you know what is causing the issue?

    As a side note, I'm very much looking forward to Crewe to Preston. For me the JT addons are the highlight in TSW and I'm glad you're flying the flag for historic content!
     
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    Will the class 86 and 87 be added to the new release today along the Birmingham to Crewe route?
    Will be great if these are included
     
  21. GWRKingClass

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    Just to confirm, I've tried TSW6 with the class 31 disabled and this does bring back the class 86 as one means of temporarily fixing the issue. However, I think I'll stick to TSW5 until Preston - Crewe comes out or a patch as this will allow the full timetable including the 31 to be accessible.

    Also JT support have confirmed this solution and also confirmed that the 86 not being present is not intentional, so regard the initial DTG support response as bogus/misworded.
     
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  22. maccagee#4924

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    Will it affect the 86/4 or have they been modelled correctly?
     
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  23. Rutger Luiten

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    When will the bogies get a fix, it's already released a few months and still the bogies frame is scraping the tracks.

    Update: Ben mentiod, they are working on it, missed it. Sorry!
     
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  24. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Ben's already replied to this, slightly up the thread. Not quite the answer we're looking for but scroll up and it's there.
     
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