What Is The Future Of Tsw On Consoles?

That one is probably irks me the most; paying the same price for less product than what others are getting.

 

Isn't it annoying to pay less for a console than a PC? I guess we need to be consistent.

 

No. Its the only platform I can play on. I'm not going to stop buying DLC for it just because you say so.

 

Thats a choice but if it will fix the problems i will doubt that

 

Consoles are the major playerbase here, they will support also those machines, and say stop buy dlcs to console players like me, won't change anything

 

Sorry but consoles are the biggest group of users but also the group with biggest issues. Vote with youre wallet is a clear sign. Waiting and only written here on the forums doesn't work at all and the DTG team is moving to discord over the time so they did not take any responseble actions!

 

Fine, so you'll be happy for console players to pay less for a DLC than PC players will because you get extra services.

 

Why should console players pay less? They've already saved on the hardware. So the average price should be made up for by the cost of content. It's entirely fair, That console gamers who buy weak hardware a priori end up getting results that match the price they paid for it, despite the software costing the same.

 

The game was fine on consoles before TSW5, and could handle basically any route. I imagine that was when they magically turned into "weak hardware".

 

That is a truly bizarre thought process....

I assume therefore that if you paid less for your car than I did, you're happy to pay more for petrol in order to even things up? After all, you've "saved on the hardware. So the average price should be made up for by the cost of content. It's entirely fair.".

 

There is a vast difference between the cost between console and PC and many people just can't afford a PC that is powerful enough to run a game like TSW and its various DLCs.

So, if a DLC is released and PC has an extra 200 services (for example) because Console can't cope with it, why should Console users pay the same amount as PC players for less.

If you want more people to purchase a PC then I'm sure you'll be first in line to donate enough money so they can purchase one.

 

PC's for similar spec often actually costs less than a comparable console, only reason you're gonna pay vastly more is if you're building a absurdly high end machine. Which a lot of people seem to forget isn't the case for most, lot of people only have $500 to work with.

 

Why should pc players get better sales then?

 

I was thinking of moving from Xbox to PC this year but with the amount of DLC I already own being the thing holding me back. All this news though of a new Xbox/PC hybrid potentially being released next year sounds pretty exciting tbh. Multiple store fronts including Steam etc, better sales and possibly the ability to play TSC has me thinking there could be a bright future for the game on console?

 

What a bizarre analogy. Speaking of gas and cars, the console owners didn't even buy a Honda Civic, but rented one, and they go to the gas station, and there the owners who bought Mercedes fill up with the same gasoline at the same price. And the same gasoline allows their cars to go faster, they can go wherever they want (they don’t have restrictions like a rental agreement) and in general they can do whatever they want with the car. At the same time, everyone pays the same price for gasoline (routes), but gets different results at the end.

 

Bleak.

 

Look at it this way: you've got the basic route. Nothing more, nothing less. Premium platform owners get additional options.

 

I gave the analogy above. I have a Kia that costs about $30,000 and can reach 200 km/h. The owner of a Porsche that costs $150,000 and can reach 300 km/h is the same We arrived at the same gas station. Should I ask for a discount on gas, since I can't drive 300 km/h even if I wanted to?

 

Better than what?

 

That's a horrible analogy when as noted before, PC's vary, and Steam's for all of them, not just the $1000 dollar machines. For that matter by the same logic PS5 Pro, Series X, and Switch 2 owners should also pay less than their cheaper counterparts, but they don't.

The real reason for the cheaper prices on Steam is just down to the fact they have actual competition they need to fend off. They screw up Epic or GoG could easily offer more competitive sales, and as you can install any store on PC that's a actual threat. In comparison console players tend to be more locked in, you can't just download the Nintendo eShop for your PlayStation, once you're locked in its a non-issue for the console makers. This is further shown by the fact physical games are easier to deal hunt for, because more like PC retailers like Walmart & Amazon are competing with each other for your sale.

 

Sweet glad we agree, PC owners should pay more for the additional content. Thank you for proving my point, though I don't think you meant to.

 

Do you even read? It doesn't matter what kind of car you have (PC, console), the price of gas (and games) is the same for everyone. How the car drives doesn't really matter anymore, it's all about what you paid.

 

Someone needs to do a study on this forum & find out why its users have a compulsion to come up with the most ridiculous analogies.

 

It's a plague. It seems that people compete with each other to see who can post the most absurd analogies.

And these silly comparisons are often part of a pointless argument like the one between PC and console above.

 

Honestly, I don't expect my console version to play like a high end PC version, or have all the bells and whistles.

You pay what you pay, for the convenience of having a 'plug and play' device.

In theory, you should be able to relax, get comfy, fire up the machine and away you go, with no worries or issues to contend with.

But instead we get this!!!

 

Literally every other platform

 

Yeah, we don't get it good on Xbox at all!!

 

All I see are TSW players turning against each other because DTG haven't got their optimisation on consoles sorted out...

Instead of console players saying "PC players should pay more" and PC players telling console players that "you got what you paid for", redirect all that frustration towards *DTG for letting the game fall into that state in the first place and keep demanding they fix the console version of their game instead of your fellow players.

The game should never have gotten into this state on Gen9 in the first place.

*I feel I need to state this but I mean DTG as a business, don't go after individual staff members or do anything fringe like email the CEO directly.

 

If you got it on Xbox, you already have it available for PC mate. Just fire up the Xbox app and install it.

 

Personally my plan is to hold off on a Gen 10 console when they release, I don’t really encounter issues with game performance on 99% of my games with my Series X and going by speculative price tags not particularly looking to either cheap out on a lesser powerful model or pay upper triple number price tags just yet without good incentives, personally I think the series x lifespan could easily and reasonably be another 2-3 years at least, they just seem short and it doesn’t feel to me yet anyways that I need a new one or an improvement.

 

Agreed for 99% of games.

Unfortunately, TSW is not 99% of games and I do not see how any DLC going forward is really going to work very well on current consoles considering what we have seen recently.

Unless they suddenly drop some secret optimization patch they have been quietly working on and I will let you decide how likely that is.

 

I’ll be getting gen10 if for no other reason than to keep my console as advanced as I can, of course we’ll need to see what’s what but gen8 to gen9 was a huge jump in performance with most games being at least 60fps now & a good few getting to 120. I suspect the next leaps will be in ram size & upscaling software.

Now for TSW the quick fix will be more ram in consoles, however DTG made this mistake once already, with gen8 to gen9 they continued to not optimise enough & depended purely on the new consoles power. It will likely be the same thing with gen10 & eventually that limit will once again be reached.

In terms of TSW now, it really is on its own as a title that struggles to this extent on the consoles, though soon MSFS will be on even more of them & SCS are bringing their truck sims along too, so I guess those will be some test cases to see how much gen9 can handle.

 

MSFS is undeniably demanding, they're some of the only 9th gen only games that I don't think even give a 60fps option. But the SCS titles? Those honestly run on any random machine, even pretty low end ones. I have a pretty meh HP laptop that family got for a business trip, isn't powerful at all, but still runs ATS/ETS2 pretty decently. SnowRunner's in the same boat I believe, it's developed for mobile and Switch and actually runs well on the latter from my experience. I also have no clue how Farm Sim performs, but that's been on anything and everything for years, it's even been on 3DS I'm pretty sure. So I assume Farm Sim must also similarly be very scalable and run on a lot of hardware.

Honestly road sims in general unless they're really hardcore racing sims modeling literally every bump on the road by 3D scanning real tracks honestly ain't that demanding.