Upcoming Release Santa Fe On Cajon Pass - Coming Soon!

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Harry, Nov 5, 2025 at 4:00 PM.

  1. Killer-Of-Night

    Killer-Of-Night Well-Known Member

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    Its worth noting UP still has those trackage rights, as it's still the only way to get to their line that connects to the BNSF mainline just East of Barstow that goes to Las Vegas and Utah, just that they go into the Palmdale Cutoff on the pass. But DTG forgot those trains existed when they made the original Cajon Pass in TSW3.
     
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  2. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Have you not been checking suggestions?
     
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    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    Uhhh did you forget that the db red 363 is £11.99 which only includes the train and a wagon.
    So no I don’t think this is overpriced for value, hell going off your local the scotrail 158 and scotrail 380 are overpriced
     
  4. f__s_cw

    f__s_cw Well-Known Member

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    The 380 is an entirely new loco so your comparison is totally illogical. And I didn’t even mention the 363 or 158 in my original post so I’m not sure why you’ve brought them up. At the end of the day, a tsw gameplay pack has never cost this much and it’s concerning that this time it does.
     
  5. hecticjojo

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    Pricing for gameplay packs seems to be all over the place and it's very difficult to see where the prices are drawn from.

    You have something like the 380 pack which had an entirely new model and timetable at $26aud.
    The 158 pack which was arguably a reskin/remodel and at the time a single timetable for $24aud.
    Then you have the cargo line packs, each at $16aud iirc.
    Thomas the tank was almost $30
    The XC/WMT Class 170 was also weirdly priced competitively.

    I guess what I'm saying is that the pricing has always been a little whacky so it's not exactly new to this gameplay pack. Maybe the developers of the DLC has some say. JT for their class 86 for example, or HIS for this pack?
     
  6. star#5823

    star#5823 Well-Known Member

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    7 liverys and new timetable (2 train and 5 wagons)

    Basically my point was this is great value for money compared to the 158 and 363, and other loco packs

    timetable packs are normally more expensive, so what’s your problem?, like it’s £3 different from another loco pack, it was never going be £10 pack
     
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  7. operator#7940

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    It's not the "up" that's the challenge =-)
     
  8. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    That's the thing. It's entirely different gameplay. Instead of managing timings on a commuter route, it's managing braking and speesds to prevent disaster. Different but equally fun for different people. Some German routes have enough grade to be interesting, but most UK routes are pretty tame by comparison.
    Different styles for different players.
     
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    Yeah, I get that they're reskins, but the timetable is a lot of work plus 5 scenarios.
    While it could be more, it's not like the price is "breaking the bank."
    There's no cheaper modern DLC with as much content out there as you pointed out.
    It's like a Cargo Pack (6 new wagons and a timetable)...with two extra locos thrown in *even if they are variations of ones we already have in game)
    And if you pick it up as a sale...that's hardly anything.
    It's one of the better modern deals available for TSW.
    I guess it COULD be cheaper, but as someone pointed out... it's not going to be a huge seller given how European-focused the game is.
    You have to cover payroll to hire people to make the content so there's a lower limit to what you can charge and still pay people.
     
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  10. f__s_cw

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    It only seems great value compared to the 158 and 363 because they were overpriced to begin with. The 158 shouldn’t be £12, this pack certainly shouldn’t be £15
     
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    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    And cargo packs... and 170.... etc.
     
  12. nwp1

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    the starter pack will not be free for much longer, as it ends next Tuesday 11th. I bought the deluxe edition on the day of release.
     
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  13. theorganist

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    You would think some people could accept that what doesn't appeal to them might appeal to someone else.

    I will get this pack. I don't play US freight very often but when I do I enjoy it. It's good to encourage new developers. Is £15 expensive, as ever it is down to what an individual gets out of it.

    People on here are often keen to assert what they think a developers time and effort is worth.
     
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  14. nwp1

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    £15 is nothing today, a round of drinks with a friend. What we pay for add ons is not expensive, but in the scale of other packs, l feel that this has more of a £12.99 feel to it compared to other releases, but it’s a first day buy for my xbox but will look for a discount before l add it to my steam collection. When l was working l didn’t blink at paying the full price for both Xbox and Steam, but now retired it’s only Xbox l buy for, as their are fewer Xbox sales than Steam.
     
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