PC Class 90 Announced :)

Until JT move onto a new region, we’re getting nothing older than 2010 out of DTG on the UK front.

 

GEML with a class 90 and mark 3's and one EMU, maybe a 315 might not be ideal but would be a good start. There would be scope for DLC EMU packs.

TSW is a world away from MSTS and even TSC in many cases, expecting to get a full suite of traction for a route like the GEML is a pie in the sky dream, if it were to happen it would be a long term project and would be much more expensive. I really don't think it is logical to compare TSW with either of those two.

For the record I loved the MT products and would Scottish Capitals or London South East to be recreated as they were in MSTS, sadly that is highly unlikely to happen.

 

Would it not be better to do a 315 (modded 314) and either a 321 or 360, with the 90+mk3s as a separate DLC?

 

Your forgetting ATS exist, they may be hated by some but they redone the GEML in train sim classic

 

I'd suggest that the ECML borders East Anglia but yes, north of Huntingdon up to Darlington is pretty flat. And taking a trip around the fens to the East of the ECML it would be difficult to disagree with you, it's probably the least appealing rural landscape in the UK, I'd call it a "natural landscape" but it's man-made.

However, the rest of East Anglia is as nice as most of rural Britain. It may not have mountains and moors but those always look a bit bleak to me, whereas the mature trees and woods, hedgerows, gentle-rolling fields, thatched houses and historic villages around Suffolk, Norfolk and North Essex contain several areas of protected natural beauty, rare species and a snap-shot of what rural Southern England is all about. And only an hour from London on the train. Obviously it gets a bit field/housing estate/field/industrial estate the closer you get to the M25 but I love calling East Anglia my adopted home and really enjoy showing visitors around it.

 

You'd be forgiven for thinking Chappel Viaduct on the Sudbury branch is in North Yorkshire and not 45 miles north east of the Tower of London.

 

Except both TSW5 and TSW6 had two WCML releases each (before anyone says it, I'm fully aware Preston-Crewe isn't out yet) , compared to ECML having... one in TSW4.

I'd have rather they returned to the southern region than yet another WCML route.

 

Yes you're right, that would work better, I hadn't thought about it that deeply.

 

I don’t get why ATS are hated they have some of the best content for TSC and their TSW route is done really well for a first release.

 

They talked a lot of LOVE about TSW & its users back in the TSW2020/TSW2 days.

They have released a few iffy products for TSC, pricing & quality being an issue.

There were also allegations of developers not being paid for their work on MAC.

 

thanks for the quick reply not aware of any of this. Never had a problem personally with any of the TSC payware content myself actually really enjoy it

 

Glad you're enjoying the ATS stuff and there's plenty in the pipeline. As is also the case for TSW now (90 and beyond)

It's been a steep learning curve for TSW but in the past the feedback from DTG through their QA process has been excellent. They are historically very thorough.

 

I must give you a big "thank you" for the many excellent routes you've given us in TSC. I must admit that I've not been keeping my TSC game up-to-date, I really need to dip into the ATS and AP sites and get some new mods and scenarios before I get too behind.

 

If only the QA process was excellent and thorough for Birmingham to Crewe...

 

Unless they have some special arrangement, I would have thought they would be subject to the same QA as everyone else

 

Do you have an idea, for what routes we are going to have services etc with the incoming Class 90?
Ts there at least a passenger function in the loc?

 

Unfortunately we can’t go into specific details yet — best to wait for the next roadmap update. What I can say is that this is a freight-focused pack. Not entirely sure what you mean by ‘passenger function’, but the gameplay is centred around freight operations

 

Any interesting stuff you can say about class 90 while developing it, like any stuff you didn’t already know?
(Sorry dumb question but I’m always curious about stuff)

 

Does it use an authentic sound set or aliased to something else?

 

It says in the dt article they went and recorded a new sound set

 

I do like 90s but their fan/motor sounds are quite muted. They don’t roar much like the 91s (or the 85s from archive footage I’ve seen).

 

We did a sound recording session with one in the northwest. It wasn't as comprehensive as you may imagine but a second session was undertaken to get a few more bits. It was mainline but not under its own power so that did complicate things somewhat.

For stuff we didn't know there is a big list of bits we thought we would get right but they need attention (currently being worked on). We have an ex-90 driver on the project so they are very much involved as you would expect. In fact they are the same person who led MAC to release after we brought it back in house this time last year after it failed QA spectacularly.

I'd love to hear any feedback of course either on here or on our own site (I'm sure people can Google the ATS site as I'm not sure what the self promotion rules are)

 

I’m looking forward to this, a definite day one buy which is rare for me.

 

Thank you. We're certainly nearing the end of the tunnel with it

 

Very exciting

 

It's great to see the Class 90 coming in but lack of passenger operations means it'll not be a day 1 purchase for me as I'm not a huge freight enthusiast.
If only a IC version could be subbed into the JT routes, I remember them running on passenger services before the DVTs came along and if JT can fudge an era to include the already-withdrawn 40, can fudge a year or so the other way for a 90 as well.
It's definitely a welcome addition to TSW and I'm sure it'll be popular.

 

I feel the same way.

 

Nice to get this transparency from a dev.

I just hope we get it after release as well.