Cargoline Volume 5 Nuclear

There’s a short preview over on Skyhook’s socials for this. Looks excellent I must say.

 

That is the whole point of a preview I guess.

To make the content look excellent and entice us in.

Hopefully it will be just as good in practice, but it clearly has not been an entirely smooth process.

 

I don't know enough about Skyhook to know if it's been a rough process... or they are just working on multiple projects and only have so many people on each one. Also shared staff often can "bottleneck" a process. For example if there's only one person doing X thing on a small team, there may be projects in the "queue" waiting for that one finishing piece with everything else done. Then the other devs move onto the next project. For all we know (not saying it IS mind you), most of the people on Cargo Line 5 could already be working on Cargo Line 6 while 5 is waiting for one or two final pieces (like say lighting or sounds or whatever)
Often your workers move at different rates on different projects, so they don't all start and stop together. They go work on whatever their field is.
That's just how project management often works and why we get some weird results with some projects being delayed while others unpredictably move forward or get done ahead of schedule, you have some times where nothing comes out and then you'll get two things done right close to one another.
I get that feeling with this project. It's "mostly" done with just a couple things outstanding.

 

The video looks very interesting, definitely looking forward to it.

One thing I thought looked a little strange though (and one of the commenters mentioned it too) aren't the 20s usually in a nose to nose formation?

 

Correct.

 

I've certainly never seen the 20's operated in that formation sooooo is that a blunder?

I also really hope Skyhook put a RHTT remote in the cab

 

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the interest in our latest release. Thanks for the question about the train formation. I have double checked and can confirm that the Scenario and Timetable gameplay has locomotives bonnet to bonnet in either double head or top and tail formations. I have checked through the formations that can be placed down in Free Roam mode and found that more than expected are in 'elephant' arrangement. We intended to provide a variety of locomotive arrangements in order to represent the varied operations that these locomotives are applied to, however we can update the formations to always be bonnet to bonnet if players wish.

 

When is this releasing looking forward to this dlc.

 

Random question but will the DRS class 66 sub for the class 20?, only asking because it would be pretty cool and one of their formations is the same as the second photo just with 2 class 66s

 

Personally speaking either or for me.Looking forward to the release.

 

I am looking forward to this. I do like the class 20 and we have these and the JT ones to come.

 

For those that obsess about Choppers "always" going bonnet to bonnet, here's a little working I caught last year

 

Good spot but that's a light engine run not a freight run, it would not be practical to run a flask train in that formation

 

Love the video! Would love a 20 in the Green livery ngl, loved the Robin shots too real winter scene!

I was more curious about the formations than anything else as I noticed they run bonnet to bonnet a lot so it kind of led me down the rabbit hole of if there was a reason for it

Thankyou for that Adam
It's cool the way SHG have included multiple formations. Really looking forward to this one, have all the time in the world for the 20!

 

Elephant formation? That's a new one for me. Presumably can to cab, but can't quite see why. Trunks?

 

Just means in a line all facing the same way.

 

Of course! Thanks

 

Just saw on news feed release 18th nov 12.99. Wcml south 3 scenarios and 4 timetable jobs. Wcml os. 3 scenarios and 14 timetables. And Rivera route didn't mention jobs.

 

Over on the dovetail live section it mentions the Riviera having services if you own the relevant dlc.

 

Slightly disappointed in the lack of a usable nuclear panic

 

Not very much for the updated 20s to do.

 

I wish there was a little more for them to do although for the price. But then I guess there's only so much you can add to the timetable for such a specialist pack.

I'm guessing WCMLOS is a separate timetable from the JT one again? Is it the same timetable as the military pack?

 

This is the sort of pack which will gain value over time as it becomes layered into more routes. Presumably a patch could layer it into WCML Birmingham - Crewe, and the same could apply for Crewe - Preston when that releases.

 

You’d would hope it’s the same timetable as the military pack timetable, but then that could make owning the military pack a requirement (which hasn’t been specified so unlikely) as DTG aren’t keen on and historically have resulted in poor sales so hopefully we’ll get an answer from Adam to clarify.

 

I think if its another timetable I will give a miss this getting a little silly now.

 

I would rather they did the GWR 158 for the riviera line hopefully in the future they will

 

Are they not doing a stream for this dlc

 

If you check the routes you own and look at layers in the timetable you can spot the nuclear one greyed out. It’s certainly there on Preston to Carlisle and Riviera. Not checked WCML South. Suggests they are adding it to existing…

 

How do you do that?

 

Select a route, then open the timetable, you should be able to see an option to add/remove layers - it will be in there

 

So I’ve checked…

Riviera has Nuclear in the timetable ready to go…

WCML has Nuclear in the Intermodal timetable ready to go, not in the original timetable though…

Just trains Carlisle to Preston has it included in the Military timetable but not in the original…

 

Didn't realise cargo line on WCMLS had its own timetable.

I don't mind WCMLOS having a separate one from the JT one tbf though.

 

The ambassadors have released some footage from this today, just watching The British Ace’s video.

 

Shameless plug. Enjoy. If you dont mind watching an ambassador. Not one of my best videos. So apologies there.

Got to sort my audio out. I think the game audio is too loud.

 

Too loud is better than too quiet

 

It says it layers into the Rivera route what locos will it use it doesn't say.

 

**DRS CLASS 66**

 

So why not the loco it comes with

 

I think somewhere I’ve seen it’s using drs 66 which dtg have license for.

 

Because the route and the 20s aren’t set in the same time period.

 

Ooh ok thanks for the info.

 

So if you buy this pack it comes with the 66 on the riviera line

 

No. To get the DRS 66 you need the Engineering Express pack

 

No if I read it right you have to have certain dlc. For this be playable on the rivera route.

 

Yes, by the sound of it you need the Edinburgh-Glasgow "Engineering Express" DLC which has the DRS 66 that would layer onto Rivera, the pre-packed Class 20s did not run in the time frame that the Rivera route is set (DRS offloaded their last Choppers a couple of years ago).

 

You need the class 86 as well as the MK2Fs are used as part of the formation.

 

Some notes from watching some previews
WCML S and Over Shap have separate timetables for the Nuclear services, I know some people don't like that
Class 20 currently does not show up in Formation Designer, this will be patched in a post-launch update
As mentioned above the Rivet Games Engineering Express pack and 86/2 pack from Just Trains is required to run the nuclear services on Riviera.
Both the 20/3 and FNA's have suspension

 

Why do you need the engineering express pack to run the class 20s on Riviera line?
I assumed as long as you have the Riviera dlc you were good to go.

 

The timetable uses the DRS 66's and a MK3 coach for the formation

 

Where did it say its another timetable