Dovetail Games Season Of Reveals 2025 - Week 2

It's probably 90% done by now and in (early) testing, so sadly I don't think it will make any difference....

 

irl they are very similar, but for TSW i beg for DTG to not have even looked at the 187 monstrosity.
In the German Stuttgart Stream Lukas said its a completely new model with sounds recorded of a real 147 in Dortmund, so tberes hope itll not be a 187 repaint but a Standard DTG Qualitity loco. most likely not perfect either but also not the unuseable scrap the 187 is in the Game.

So i hope we finally get a useable traxx3

 

IC2 hint when they Recording this Train?
They don’t Travel just for the Locos to Dortmund

 

It we get the IC2, we'll need a new route with it

 

No Leipzig Dresden

 

That route already released.

 

It’s a loco DLC then

 

Dresden - Leipzig wäre eine Strecke, wo der IC2 gut als Layer passen würde, allerdings dann nur mit der BR 145 vorne dran.

Dresden–Leipzig would be a route where the IC2 would be a good fit as a layer, but only with the Class 145 at the front.

 

I can already see it: first the BR 147 will come to TSW at full price, then the IC2 with the BR146.5 will come at full price, and depending on how well that is received, then the BR147 will come in IC2 livery.

 

You know it’s a 146.5 on This Route

 

Ja, hatte nur einen Zahlendreher gehabt (145.6 statt 146.5).

Yes, there was just a transposed number (145.6 instead of 146.5).

 

Actually ATS have stated they'll work with any third party regardless of personal feelings.

 

Well I hope so, third parties bickering with each other and refusing to cooperate just means that we all suffer in the end

 

It's business. I have to collaborate on cases with companies and individuals who I don't particularly like, some I've even had personal disagreements with online. But you put that aside if it gets the job done.

 

Screenshots don't look 90% done, and you know they don't do any testing lol, so there's still a tiny bit of hope

 

Did the Class 90 only operate on the lower half of the WCML?
Or is it just a game thing that it's limited to the WCMLS?
I would have expected some layers announced on the other WCML routes in game?
Just curious.
None of these are really my style.
I'm a bit interested in seeing if the Czech route is anything different than the German routes we have in the experience (different signals, different assets/stations, different loco models, etc) But it's not something I'm waiting for. More like getting it on sale someday.

 

The 90s operated all the way upto Scotland.

 

Most rolling stock DLC gets picked for one route, and in that sense, WCML South is probably the best choice, but it'd be nice to see it on others too.

 

Didn't ATS tease that an "Intercity" version of the Class 90 is planned too?
If that's the case and they really mean "Intercity" (which for the 90's means 1989-1997), none of the current WCML routes are in the right era. Let's hope that doesn't mean yet another chunk of the WCML is on the way.

 

Well logically the bit between WCMLS and Crewe-Birmingham still remains to be completed.
There's been no announcement, but I figure it's only a matter of time. It'd be weird not to complete the last bit of the WCML from London to Carlisle. (Beyond Carlisle to the north yes we've been told there's issues stopping that progress)

 

I agree they should fill in the gaps eventually, but it also won't hurt for developers to give the WCML a rest for a couple of years. I'm sure even the biggest LMR main line fans would be happy for other areas in the UK to get some love for a couple of product cycles.

 

After the last bit... what more is there to add though? After that they're forced to work somewhere else because they have run out of WCML to do =-) Anyway, my bigger question was why the 90 isn't being announced from the beginning for the other routes we have in game that it should be running on. That seems like an easy match up and a huge selling point to leave out.
Now to be fair it might be "in the works", but that should be a priority. There are a lot of players (myself included) who greatly value a DLC by how useful it is in layers. I would use the 90 on Shap for example, but WCMLS? Nah. Pass.

One thing to be said about the new German route, the Frankenstein or whatever, the Class 140 does look like it can layer into a fair number of German routes so that's huge added value for a route that features that. It's even MORE important for a solo loco DLC to do so because you might get people who just like the Franken-bahn route itself and get the 140 as a bonus... but if there isn't a route to layer on that you like on a loco DLC.... then you probably just won't buy it.

As I said, if it shows up on Shap I might look at the 90. If it's on Preston- Crewe it's very likely I'll pick it up. If it's JUST on WCMLS.... pass.

 

Partly that's the nature of German railways though - there's much more electrification, so electric locos are less constrained, and while there is privatisation, the vast majority of routes could plausibly be operated by DB, and have done in the recent past. You therefore get a situation where the next German route can often use almost anything that's been released before it, which is much harder to achieve in the UK.