The recently released DLCs look good, but after playing them for a while they start to feel a bit dull. So I hope you can create more modern train DLCs, such as Germany’s BR248 or Mireo Plus H, the UK’s Class 730 or the new Piccadilly line trains, and the USA’s MTA 211 or Avelia Liberty. Of course, adding trains from new countries would be even better.I feel that there are too many older trains and far too few modern ones, which makes the gameplay less enjoyable for me. My playtime isn’t as much as before, and this year’s rolling stock DLCs haven’t appealed to me at all. I sincerely hope and suggest that you produce more modern trains. I’m looking forward to your updates next year. Thank you. (Note: Modern trains here refer to trains that will be put into service after 2023.)
Sorry to counter this, but I really hope not. Tired of one handle EMU’s and DMU’s with a letterbox view. High time DTG revisited the classic era, not only in the UK but elsewhere too. For starters we need more first generation DMU’s and how about a Thumper or an original Southern Region EMU. A Sulzer Type 2 or the much requested Class 50, 55, 56 or 60. Something with a bit of character, not a soulless box.
well to get trains at all, licensing and permission is needed. They can't just make the trains. Some trains are just more difficult to create. Only way is to just watch the roadmap for anything
I think the natural flow of releases will be modern traction. If that's what's selling then that's the temptation for developers to make modern stuff. Not saying it's wrong, we've all got food to put on the table. However, given that DTG often highlight that they like to do something that's not been done in in TSC or TSW, I am baffled why 18 years since they came into the Rail Simulator business, they've never made an AC slam-door EMU. Thus ensuring that a huge part of rail history to the North of the Thames in the South East hasn't been covered*. I'd much rather a route that felt like the 70s, 80s or 90s somewhere under the wires in London and the Home Counties. I long to stand at a busy platform and hear the chorus of doors slamming shut, the ring of the guard's bell, the chug of the compressors and that disorganised thunk on departure as brakes in each of the 12 carriages release at slightly different times. Modern trains are quicker and much, much safer. But this is a PC Game, we shouldn't just have easy modern computers on wheels that have no soul and don't require a lengthy period of "familiarisation" because they just do what you ask them to do all the time. *And the North and Midlands, sorry, I have my NSE bias.
I do get that most rail enthusiasts will have a preference for the trains they grew-up with and its important that they record the modern railway scene for posterity like I did with my trusty 35mm camera capturing transport around London in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s. Today's modern railway scene is tomorrow's railway history after all. But there should also be some curiosity of the past. I can never remember travelling on a green EMU because there were only a few that survived past my birth. But I'm currently reading two fantastic books on Southern EMUs. You only truly understand UK's transport system today by finding out its past. Unfortunately there isn't a wealth of rail history online in these days when people just won't think to buy books. I'm peddling as fast as I can to rectify that a little with my historic database project.
I cannot say more than I entirely agree with everything you said. Regarding photos in particular, I've noticed that we all tend to capture what is brand new (for example a new rolling stock when introduced), because we're so used to the old stock (which is just being replaced). And years later, the novelty has faded as it became the present, but the present of yesterday, what we were so used too, this has gone, and we should have paid more attention to it when it was possible...
Damn right. As long as I've lived in North Essex there was a choice of traction at my local station. 309/312, then 312/321, then 321/360 and only a couple of years ago 321, 321 Renatus, 321/9, 322, 360, 720. Now it's all the same trains, the only variety is whether it's been back to Derby to have some seats removed around the door area. Once that work is done it'll be 30-40 years of identical Aventras. I may never board a different type of unit from my station again. Yawn!
IMO Historic rolling stock and routes are much more appealing as they can only be experienced via simulators and archive material, whereas if you really want to see the latest stock short of driving it, you can just go and see the real thing.
This is an interesting and relevant point of view, it highlights both the importance and the difficulty of reproducing things from the past (for example how can we be sure that it is truly a faithful reproduction, particularly for rolling stock in terms of physics)...
I want some more modern US diesel power in game. Some of my ideas: -EMD SD70M (especially UP; include #1616 Abraham Lincoln loco and multiple nose and radiator variations) -GE ET44AC/ET44C4 -GE C44-9W -GE AC6000CW/CSX ES46AH rebuilds/UP C44ACM -EMD GP60 Spartan Cab -Siemens Chargers (all versions; new routes needed for many of these); also Venture Coaches/Cab Cars -GE P42DC Genesis (again, multiple liveries; also special units) -GE P32-8BWH and B40-8/B40-8W -EMD SD70ACe-T4 (including demo, EMD leasing, UP, and CSX units) -EMD SD90MAC-H and SD90-43MAC; also NS/CPKC SD70ACU -NS rebuilds: Admiral Cabs, AC44C6Ms (including special-liveried and Heritage Units; also CN, CPKC AC4400CWMs, and BNSF AC44C4Ms), SD60Es, SD40Es, SD70ACCs, and SD70ACUs -EMD SD70MAC -NS OCS SD70IACs -EMD SD75M/SD75I/CN SD75IACC Also: UK modern power: -Class 60 -Class 70 -Stadler Classes -Class 56/Rebuilt Class 69 -Class 58 -Railtours with Class 50 and Class 55 Deltic -Class 57 -Class 67
I’d actually much rather see alot more old fashioned Diesel trains come to TSW. Yes they are usually a little harder to control and get the hang of but they are really fun once you get it figured plus you feel like a boss once you learn it all. I do anyway lol. Most Diesel’s from back in the day just sound amazing too. EMU’s dominate the library of trains we have so far… And I do agree with the post further up in here that mentioned the young audience who are not that interested in the past which is a shame… That’s probably a part of the reason we aren’t seeing much of the older stuff vs modern stuff.
Have you just been under a rock this whole time, half of this bloody game is modern, we don’t need more same junk
I'd just be happier if 1 in 4 UK DTG releases were Pre-2000s. At the moment it's JT growing 1986 Lancashire network or nothing.
Not sure what the original poster is complaining about to be honest. If they found the releases in the last year “boring” then maybe they find modern traction boring and should try older eras for more of a challenge! In the last year or so the following have been released… WCML south 350/390 Mildmay 378 Man Airport 323 Riviera IET/220 Birmingham Crewe 350 Medway (coming soon) 375 before that ECML IET Goblin 720 Even Cardiff City and DRS 20 is current With exception of Just Trains, when was the last non present day era route done?
Emergency Appeal: Any developers out there who want to specialize in Network South East-era/area content? There's a huge gap in train sim market there. Business Case. Be the first to bring the wonderfully two-handled MK3-derived EMUs to TSW. Or be the first to bring a 1950s-1970s slam door EMU to TSW. Or be the first to bring an AC (OHL) slam door to any of the train simulators made by DTG. Be the first to apply the wonderful toothpaste livery to mainline rolling stock in TSW or the sublime "Jaffa Cake" livery to London & South East Express trains. It seems like you'll have no competitors, London area routes seem to sell very well. Retro routes may have niche appeal but if done well, like Just Trains have done from their base in Preston, a historic route will be cherished by the community. Lets bring Network South East to Train Sim World and capture an important area of the British Rail story before it is lost to photographs and grainy videos.
Pick one suggestion and be specific. You suggested at least 6 different things. Could you pick a single specific one and suggest it? "New stuff" is kinda vague and doesn't give the devs anything to go on. They literally are doing a ton of "new trains" every year. Your complaint that the DLC from this year "don't appeal to me" explains nothing either. A ton of "modern" stuff has been released. You just don't like the ones chosen. So.... pick ONE that you DO like and suggest that. With details. Then we can discuss a specific example.
I wonder if the request for new trains comes from someone in the North of England. Look at where the 1980s lines are based. Trans-Pennine, Tees Valley, WCML Over-shap, Blackpool Lines, Crewe - Preston. There are a couple of newer routes, Glossop, Manchester Commuter. Whereas the oldest route anywhere south of Crewe is set in 2017 (Great Western). The two 1960s routes are.....yep, up North. Maybe us Southerners are begging for older content and our Northern contingent have had enough of the 80s.
I did forget one Southern 1980s route, Cornwall coastal thingy. I've used it once since purchase as it's not very good so it's easy to forget.
More modern trains?? Isn't that all there is? I am surprised TSW has yet to put any slam door trains in like the Cig-421 or the Hastings Thumper. I have even suggested the Hastings - London Charing Cross line be set during a time when Connex had the franchise running both slam doors and electrostars at the same time around 2003 ish.
That's one of my top 10 wanted routes. A mixture of slammers and Electrostars would be brilliant. The advantage Southern slam door stock has over AC ones is that there are working preserved 3rd rail versions to take recordings from. Though there's a preserved Class 309 from which some recordings have been taken.
