Out Now Frankenbahn: Stuttgart - Heilbronn - Out Now!

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  1. dtg_jan

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    A new locomotive, a new cab car, showcasing TSW6 features across a brand-new route! Stuttgart - Heilbronn is out now!

    Approximate release times: 1000 UTC PlayStation & Xbox, 1600 UTC Epic Games, 1800 UTC Steam

    Route Add-on Summary
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    Frankenbahn: Stuttgart - Heilbronn is the first German route Add-on to come to Train Sim World 6.

    Highlights of the route include:
    • NEW DB BR 140 locomotive featuring Train Faults and new audio recordings
    • NEW Wittenberger Steuerwagen, featuring Train Faults and Announcements
    • NEW 51km route between Stuttgart and Heilbronn
    • Year 2000 setting, including era-accurate modelling of Stuttgart Hbf
    • Expansive Kornwestheim freight yard and multiple lineside industries
    • Detailed timetable, featuring layers for ICE, IC, S-Bahn and Night/Auto traffic
    • Scenarios, Collectibles and Mastery Rewards

    Full list of Timetable layers

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    A comprehensive timetable, outlined in our previous article, focuses on the SE and RE services of the era, along with the freight services hauled by the BR 140 and shunting services operated by the included BR 363.

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    The full list of additional layers is as follows:
    • BR 111 Dosto services from Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn
    • BR 425 services from Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn
    • Mixed freight services from Ruhr Sieg Nord
    • Shunting substitutions using the BR 294 locomotive from Train Sim World 6: Deluxe and Special Editions
    • ICE 1 and ICE 3 traffic from Kassel-Würzburg
    • ICE-T traffic from Frankfurt-Fulda
    • IC traffic from the original DB BR 101 Add-on
    • Auto and Nachtzug trains using stock from Bremen-Oldenburg and Linke Rheinstrecke
    • DB BR 218 services, using Linke Rheinstrecke coaches
    • AI DMU services from Niddertalbahn
    • ÖBB EC AI traffic from Semmeringbahn
    • BR 423 services from Frankfurt S-Bahn

    We can also confirm, as part of these additions, that ONE shipping containers will no longer appear in freight consists.

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    Known UI Issue on Release:
    Finally, we wanted to make players aware of a Known Issue that some players may encounter on release.
    Some players may notice that the n-Wagen cab car (DB Bnrdzf 463) erroneously appears in the train selection screen, instead of the Wittenberger Cab car (DB Bnrdzf 483). Selecting the n-Wagen will show the correct Wittenberger cab car option as a listed variant.

    The Wittenberger cab car is playable, if this variant is selected.

    A fix for this issue has been submitted, with affected players receiving a post-release update to rectify it.

    Preview Livestream



    If you missed the Preview of Stuttgart - Heilbronn, head over to YouTube and Twitch.

    Train Sim World 6: Frankenbahn: Stuttgart - Heilbronn is out now for Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5, Epic Games Store, and Steam for €35.99/£29.99/$39.99

    Please note that this Add-on will be released on PC and 9th Gen Console platforms only.

    Find out more about Train Sim World 6 by following @trainsimworld on Twitter/X, Instagram, Threads, Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and TikTok.

    Please note:
    For players on PS5 who are seeing fewer services than expected (especially from the Frankfurt S-bahn layer), our teams are aware of this from player reports, and are looking to address this as soon as possible. Thank you!
     
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  2. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    "On Release" - I highly assume this is the same listing issue since TSW6 was released which lists a lot of trains duplicated and shows some variants not supposed to be listed, like those named "[Light Loco]" for Formation Designer. A fix for that would be nice, it's been some time now.

    Hint: this wasn't the case in TSW5.
     
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  3. antony.henley

    antony.henley Well-Known Member

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    So only 423 services on the PS5 version.

    Old build?

    Hentis
     
  4. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    Would be nice if PS5 had the correct service amount
     
  5. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if PS5 has got the gen 8 version?
     
  6. simonr#5214

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    How can the ps5 version get the 8th gen build there isn’t one
    It’s not on 8th gen but the fact only got 423 services when should be at least 800 something not right
     

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    Should be 838 services
    That’s 415 services missing On ps5
     
  8. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    It looks like a good built route, but it’s very very empty and devoid of traffic
     
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    Another broken and disappointing release. How many is that now?
    The last thing I bought on release day was Mittenwaldbahn ten months ago, and I only got the free version of TSW 6, when before I used to buy almost everything. I've come to the conclusion that it's not worth rewarding this poor management.
     
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  10. dtg_jan

    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hey there, thank you for raising this. I've made internal teams aware and am currently raising a ticket for this issue. Could you send a screenshot of the total service number, please?
     
  11. Super Spud 1015

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    I got 423 timetabled services and the 5 scenarios to make up the 428 number. Looking through the list of trains on my ps5, compared to the preview stream, I think the db br 423 from Frankfurt S-Bahn is the train missing.
     

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  12. erg73

    erg73 Well-Known Member

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    Seriously? Don't you have a PS5 at the company to check it out for yourselves? Let me remind you that we are the ones paying, not the ones who have to work for free for you.
    Sometimes I really get the impression that you are laughing at your customers.
     
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  13. Myron

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    Are you aware about the other issue aswell? The one I mentioned earlier?
     
  14. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    Frame rates are poor too
     
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    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    I work remotely and don’t have access to a PS5 to check the issue myself. The development team is currently investigating this matter as a top priority, but any information I can gather would be valuable.
    They will, of course, check the console directly, but I feel it’s important to explore every possible avenue.
     
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  16. simonr#5214

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    428 but take 5 off cuz they are scenarios
    So only shows 423 services in timetable
     

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  17. jesper2805

    jesper2805 Well-Known Member

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    That you even respond to comments like this… He’s just looking for a pointless argument, and you don’t need to convince him that you weren’t in the wrong. In my opinion, he’s provoking purely to get likes. It really doesn’t contribute anything, with all due respect.
     
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  18. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    the Frankfurt sbhan 423? Is missing, which is about 400 missing services
     
  19. jesper2805

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    There is a problem with the S-Bahn services on PS5. They are already aware of it and are working on a fix. I believe it’s a PlayStation issue, since it’s working fine on Xbox as far as I understand from other users.
     
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  20. Disintegration7

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    They've admitted they don't have dev kits and can only play the retail builds on console- wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually have a PS5 in the office. It really is a clownshow sometimes lol
     
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  21. Rutgerski

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    This can’t be right. Right?
     
  22. TKessel

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    Nothing on Steam yet?
    EDIT: Now!
     
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  23. Puddington Bear

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    Nope, still not listed.

    EDIT: This one really took its time to show up on Steam...
     
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  24. Disintegration7

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    Check out the Birmingham-Crewe discussion thread (at least a few pages back at this point).

    Kezz from AABS states that they can only test on consoles after certification, which implies the lack of a devkit. What else could that mean? Why would they wait to test otherwise? Every patch pushed to console costs money so why else would they wait until post-release to test? No other answer makes sense to me.

    Also, just recently, in the Medway Valley Line discussion they talk about "keeping to the gen 9 memory pool" but that they aren't actually testing on console (because they can't yet).

    If someone from DTG will step up and confirm that they have Xbox and PS devkits i'll happily stfu about it. Please!
     
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  25. fema#6067

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    Can you please repair a bug that the raildriver Setting Not work Right… only the Dynamic brake work. In real life the brakes works together..I can Not use the Standard brake with the raildriver pls fix it DTG :)
     
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    [​IMG]

    From the feedback thread. Pft. Have this as one of the presentation images of this DLC on Steam, won't you. You're shameless enough to deliver content like this to the end players afterall.
     
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  27. antony.henley

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    When I was at the ambassador event 2024 they had a few PS5 Dev kits. And Xbox kits as well. (They also look nothing like a PS5) possibly two or three. Can't remember how many. Dont recall seeing any this year though. But, they could have been in use else where.
    Its annoying that this thing has appeared on the PS5 as the route looks ok, butnI will not be reviewing it on the PS5 until it gets sorted.

    Hentis
     
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    So I am pondering a rare day 2 purchase. The 140 and cab car both very tempting. PC user heavily modded. Is it worth it or will it be find the refund process......
     
  29. bidibul#3139

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    So...? Is this another "slideshow" or is it smooth and bug-free this time?
     
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  30. Bradley

    Bradley Well-Known Member

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    If your on ps5 don’t bother yet
     
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  31. max#2873

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    The rule of 6 months mature on whishlist after release, save me a bunch of money, stress and disappointment. Highly recommend.
     
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  32. hells.high.lord666

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    there will most likely be a gen 8 build around so they can test if it works on gen 8
     
  33. cloudyskies21

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    Very disappointing experience on Gen 9 console, sadly. It's a huge shame because the route and locos are interesting.
     
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    This guy must have crossed the Mafia.
     
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    Sorry if this has been said already but what are the problems on ps5?
     
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    ich muss mal in die Runde fragen: Wird der Halberstädter Steuerwagen Bybdzf 482.1 noch umfassend verbessert? Mir sind da als Wagenmeister a.D. etliche gravierende Fehler aufgefallen. Die Steuerwagen haben zumindest Drehgestelle der Bauart Görlitz V Mod Klotzbremse (ev. auch Scheibenbremse) bei Vmax 140 Km/h, unter Umständen auch Drehgestelle der Bauart GP 200 (Scheibenbremse) Vmax 160 Km/h und keine! Minden-Deutz Drehgestelle. Weiterhin sind die falschen Wagenanschriften am Langträger (Fahrzeugnummer, Wagengattung...) angeschrieben! Den Vogel abgeschossen hat DTG bei Wagenübergang: Da wurde doch tatsächlich statt einer Stirnwandschiebetür das Rollgitter der "Silberlinge" verwendet. Was für mich im Umkehrschluss bedeutet: Man hat lediglich den Karlsruher Kopf mit dem Wittenberger Kopf und die Führerstandstische getauscht... :(:(:(
     
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    Toy collectable at Bietigheim-Bissingen station is uncollectable. I believe that DTG are aware of this fault.
     
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    Ich bin mir recht sicher, dass die mitgelieferte Version ein Bnrdzf 483.0 und kein Bybdzf 482.1 sein soll. Somit also die n-Wagen-Variante und kein y-Wagen/Halberstädter.

    I am quite sure that the version that comes with this route is supposed to be a Bnrdzf 483.0 and not a Bybdzf 482.1. This means it is the n-car variant and not a y-car/Halberstadt car.
     
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  40. OldVern

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    You need to post in English on this forum, please.

    Anyhow had a quick watch of the first part of the stream this morning. The section of the route I saw looks well put together as we have come to expect from the German content. However as suspected, the “experience” does not look vastly different from all the other German routes. 140 looks nice but is limited by being on freight and I couldn’t really evaluate the sounds as Matt insists on driving with the windows and doors shut and the panel were constantly talking over the section I watched.

    S-Bahn services are much of a sameness wherever in Germany the route is set. Time to look at doing some U-Bahn stuff, perhaps?

    So my verdict remains, if this had come in at £25 or even been offered with a pre release purchase 10% discount I might have been swayed but quite comfortable waiting for a 50% off sale.
     
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    Sorry, was just a quick answer to post #37 but I edited it.

    My opinion about the route is a bit ambivalent. I don´t own this route (yet) but I watched far enough streams and videos to allow myself an opinion. It looks like a route with a good building standard overall, better than Leipzig-Dresden for example, I really looked forward to this route, finally something a bit older again, finally a 140 (one of my favourites), Wittenberg Cab Car, Stuttgart before the Stuttgart21 disaster, not bad at all but it´s just not good enough for me, to justify a price of 35.99€. Too many things, that got left out, like Schwabstraße, multiple liveries for the n-Wagen and the 140. Additionally, the route just doesn´t feel like the early 2000s at all, more like a late 2000s early 2010s route, that we already have plenty of. It looks like the Devs didn´t really knew, what time they want to recreate, the announcement of the BR147 (an early 2010s loco) as a DLC for this route just supports this feeling. It could have been a really good route, a different route, with a unique Vibe to it but in it´s current state, it´s just another semi-modern DB route, with nothing really exciting about it except from the new trains maybe.
     
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    Translated post.

    I have to ask around: Will the Halberstädter control waggon Bybdzf 482.1 still be comprehensively improved? As a waggon master a.D. I have noticed quite a few serious mistakes. The control waggons have at least bogies of the type Görlitz V Mod block brake (possibly also disc brake) at Vmax 140 km/h, under certain circumstances also bogies of the type GP 200 (disc brake) Vmax 160 Km/h and none! Minden-Deutz bogies. Furthermore, the wrong car addresses are written on the long carrier (vehicle number, waggon type...)! DTG shot down the bird at the waggon crossing: Instead of a front wall sliding door, the rolling grid of the "Silberlinge" was actually used. Which for me in reverse means: They only exchanged the Karlsruher Kopf with the Wittenberger Kopf and the driver's cab tables.
     
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  43. Maik Goltz

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    Wrong wagon type. He is talking about a way different type. The 483.0 based on n-Wagen, not on By (Halberstädter), is correct.
     
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    Well perhaps member pinomanky, should post in English then we can answer his post correctly!
     

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