That's kinda what I mean about the whole 3P development thing, it seems silly that developers can deny other devs from adding layers to products. It's not like doing so would mess with revenue split because you'd still require both DLCs from both companies and provided QA testing is good, then it should never really result in making a product worse and tarnishing anyone's names. As for seamless integration, yes this has happened on some routes but those situations are different from this. GWE is a DTG product so it makes sense that 3Ps have access to the raw TT for additions when making new stock. MML was made by Skyhook of course they'd directly integrate their own new content. There just needs to be more collaboration as eMAyTeeTee said or a team in place to facilitate this on behalf of 3P's.
I can understand it as a concern that the route dev would have no control and any edits may conflict with what that dev wants to do (although having said that it could be stipulated the route dev gets a say?). Either way just easier to ask the loco dev to do a separate timetable than work around their edits.
I would like to take focus away from the timetable momentarily and acknowledge the massive positives the Class 805 has to offer, and get back to some of the way more positive than negative stuff: The attention to detail that has gone into the the suspension and movements was really cool. Particularly the side swaying around corners, it really give an authentic feeling of motion at speed and has taken some man hours to perfect it. Really good. The sound set on both AC & Diesel was VERY sharp indeed. The traction motors were really sharp and spot on for the AT300 family and the way they have been implemented on the 805 is fantastic to say the least. I'm hoping there might be a small chance it can be rolled out to the 801 atleast. The complete rework of the interior and fittings was also incredibly spot on with an eye for detail. Again, not only was the sound sharp, but also the interior detail is spot on. It's not only going to overhaul WCMLS and draw players back in, but it's also got that complete new timetable for B2C. I don't think we've ever had a double timetable released? I really appreciate the time and effort that's gone into this and there are far more positives than there are negatives (which are easy to draw out more then they should be). My constructive criticism aside, this is going to revamp WCMLS and make it one of the most played routes for those who purchase the 805 on Tuesday. And for only £14.99 for the 805, and two new complete passenger timetables? It's a steal.
I think that was done by SamT? If so I'm not surprised, he's fantastic. His audio work is on par with, if not exceeds, Armstrong Powerhouse's audio on TSC in my opinion. I loved his 395 SP. Got me back into London Faversham High-speed for a good while when he released it.
Think you are over estimating a bit this isn’t a deal breaker for WCMLS giving the amount of the stock Avanti has you seem to type long paragraphs repeating yourself over and over as soon as anyone is less positive than you.
I feel it necessary to balance critical feedback with positivity, and I felt my original paragraphs highlighted more negative aspects more than positives one so I was trying to 'balance it out' so to speak. I'm not trying to block anyone elses opinions out at all or repeat myself. If you want to articulate the negativity and critical feedback about the 805, then please go ahead and be my guest and articulate that, I'm not going to stop you nor quote you on it. The room is yours, so please go ahead! I'm sorry that it may have come across like that, but I assure you that was not my intention at all.
