Dovetail Games Avanti West Coast Class 805 Preview Livestream Q + A Thread

dal#7945 · Jan 26, 2026 at 2:07 PM

DTG Harry said: ↑

Hi everyone. Apologies for the delay on this, these braces have been giving me some grief so I've been less on the ball. Thank you for your patience. Anyway - answers to the questions we had before the livestream are here:

Is this 805 free from the diesel engine start issues that plague the GWR 802 in diesel mode?
Yes, demonstrated on livestream.

Any new features on the TMS and back wall panel?
There are some differences on back panels, some switches are permanently isolated but nothing new on top of what was already there.

Will Train Wash button function and stop lighting up?
Stop lighting up but will not be functioning on release, but looking into this.

Will this loco be also useable on Birmingham to Crewe and the upcoming AAB route (MK to Crewe) ?
Yes it ships with timetable for Bham – Crewe. It will layer onto Trent Valley.

How many services we can drive?
527 total services on Bham – Crewe if you own all the layers, WCML South is 995 if you own all the layers.

Will console have the same number of services as PC?
AABS found issues on consoles just yesterday, so as a result this will launch with a reduced number of services on console. We will try to confirm that number when we are able to. Freight Intermodel (10 services) will be cut on Xbox. But working on a workaround.

Has space been left in the new TTs for the upcoming Class 807 that will come with Trent Valley as well as the ATS Class 90?
No current plans to include Class 90 in Trent Valley.

Will you be able to substitute the DTG Class 350 in WCML South with the AABS Class 350's from Birmingham to Crewe?
No need to sub so it makes use of all variants.

What month in the WTT is the 2025 timetable based on?
Both based on summer 2025 timetable. Middle May – December.

Birmingham to Crewe still has some blurry texture issues. Will the slightly heavier timetable for Euston to Milton Keynes lead to blurring on that route? How is performance generally?
No changes on that, so with extra stock on this route there’s a chance it could be worse. We’re working on resolving blurred textures. Current plan is to update SHE with optimisations so we can get a feel for it, along with core changes.

On the subject of Birmingham to Crewe, are there more fixes and optimisations due soon from All Aboard for this route?
Yes, AABS are working on fixes and optimisations for Birmingham – Crewe.

What makes the Class 805 special to AABS?
It depends on who you ask about it. It’s a critical part of the WCML, so feels like an obvious choice from that. But it allowed AABS time to learn the ropes of making a new train. Working with Avanti was personally special to Kieran. This is covered further on the livestream in the Q+A section!

Are there any freight jobs on the new timetable?
Yes, there are freight services you can drive barring Xbox.

How many coaches does this come with?
805 is a 5 coach set, sometimes can form a 10 coach set as in real life.

Does this train come with cruise control?
We weren’t able to add that in, but it’s something that could potentially be added in future.

What does the neutral section function do?
Neutral sections are on the route, this train recognises that and the circuit breaker opens and comes back on. You’ll briefly lose power for traction while crossing that section.

Will 807 layer in the new timetables that come with the 805 too?
350/4 and 807 will layer onto this when Trent Valley comes out.
Click to expand...

Sorry if I miss read this but are you saying that xbox have freight jobs in the new timetables??

DTG Harry · Jan 26, 2026 at 2:12 PM

dal#7945 said: ↑

Sorry if I miss read this but are you saying that xbox have freight jobs in the new timetables??
Click to expand...

Hi Dal, we mention this on the livestream but currently we're unsure if freight will make it into the timetable in time for the launch tomorrow due to some issues we spotted just before the preview. AABS are hoping for this to be resolved, but as of right now those services aren't penned to go in. We're awaiting an update on this, but it looks like there may be around 10 less services due to this.

DTG Harry · Jan 26, 2026 at 3:20 PM

Also Candace very helpfully put together this list of links that have these answers on them on the livestream

(Thank you candacedtg!)

Are there any new features on the TMS and Back Wall Panel? https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=dPEhTigZJbyHdVoj&t=5660

Will the train wash button function, and does it stop lighting up? https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=QJqsAGyIWI4HlQPG&t=5708

Will this loco be usable on Birmingham to Crewe and the other AABS route? (MK to Crewe and Trent) https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=Ek_T6CacTe337xOw&t=5765

How many services are included on this route? https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=RAaBSi-2BakpvYvL&t=5822

Will the asset-heavy route lead to blurred textures: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=AWkbFG-tb5nealS1&t=6147

Updates to B2C: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=iIPuIqHMwHIBQl23&t=6299

What makes the class 805 special to AAS: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=bKYGkdtPwrGbH86Q&t=6365

Are there any Freight Jumps on the new timetable: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=Ea3bw2FVuWSbBw-W&t=6488

Is there any use of the Cargo Line Packs: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=3azNrNDJ16xj4PWc&t=6566

What does the neutral section function do: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=aoy05NANzxCSvFmb&t=6621

Will the 807 Layer into the new 805 timetables: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=d2dx8bMTn7Hu8ygD&t=6755

Is the 805 free of the Diesel mode issue: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=Ip1V6W6uidSzOt-L&t=6870

Did you enjoy your drive and ABS compliments: https://www.youtube.com/live/RjIUvUGOcWw?si=sa4tgjYlrz6FHbya&t=6987

390 Announcements update:

Dovetail Games Avanti West Coast Class 805 Preview Livestream Q + A Thread

dal#7945 Well-Known Member

DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

Share This Page

Dovetail Games Avanti West Coast Class 805 Preview Livestream Q + A Thread

dal#7945 Well-Known Member

DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

Share This Page

Useful Searches