The inclusion of both the Class 376 and Class 465/1 in TSW6 would significantly elevate the operational depth, authenticity, and historical accuracy of any Southeastern‑based route. Each unit represents a distinct and essential component of the Metro and Suburban network, and together they would provide a far more complete and representative simulation of real‑world Southeastern operations. Class 465/1 – A Core Suburban Workhorse The Class 465/1 is one of the most recognisable and widely used units in the Southeastern fleet. Its long‑standing presence across suburban Kent routes makes it a cornerstone of daily commuter operations. Adding the 465/1 would:Restore a key part of the Networker family currently missing from TSW. - Provide greater timetable variety, especially on routes such as SEHS, the North Kent Line, and the Chatham Main Line. - Enhance immersion by representing the unit most passengers associate with Southeastern’s suburban services. - Offer a distinct driving experience thanks to its unique cab layout, traction characteristics, and braking profile. Its absence leaves a noticeable gap in the authenticity of any modern Southeastern Route.Class 376 – The Essential Metro High‑Capacity Unit The Class 376 is the backbone of Southeastern’s Metro operations, designed specifically for dense, high‑frequency suburban services into London. Its addition would: - Enable accurate representation of Metro‑focused routes such as London Bridge to Dartford, Hayes, Orpington, and Woolwich. - Introduce a modern, high‑capacity, wide‑door commuter unit that contrasts strongly with the Networkers. - Allow for realistic peak‑hour timetables, where the 376 plays a critical role in handling heavy passenger volumes. - Expand gameplay variety with a unit that has no gangways, no toilets, and a unique interior layout tailored for short‑distance travel. Without the 376, any Metro‑based Southeastern route feels incomplete.Why Both Units Matter Together Adding both the 465/1 and 376 would create a comprehensive and accurate Southeastern ecosystem, enabling: - Realistic mixed‑fleet timetables - Authentic Metro and Suburban service patterns - Greater gameplay diversity - A more faithful recreation of London and Kent’s commuter network Together, they fill major operational gaps and bring TSW6 closer to a true representation of Southeastern’s real‑world fleet.Alongside the request to introduce the Class 465/1 and Class 376 to TSW6, it is essential to emphasise the importance of delivering highly accurate traction motor audio for both units. These trains are defined as much by their distinctive sound profiles as by their visual and operational characteristics, and authentic audio is central to recreating the true Southeastern experience. Why Accurate Motor Sounds Matter The 465/1 and 376 are instantly recognisable to passengers and enthusiasts due to their unique traction signatures:The Class 465/1 features the iconic Networker motor whine, characterised by its rising harmonic tones, sharp acceleration pitch, and unmistakable braking howl. These sounds are a defining part of the Networker identity and are widely regarded as some of the most distinctive EMU audio in the UK. - The Class 376, with its modernised traction package, produces a deeper, smoother, and more contemporary motor note, reflecting its role as a high‑capacity Metro unit. Its acceleration and deceleration tones differ significantly from the Networkers and are crucial for capturing the feel of Southeastern Metro operations. Accurate audio is not simply a cosmetic enhancement — it is a core part of immersion. For many players, the sound of these units is inseparable from their real‑world identity. Why This Should Be Prioritised - These units operate in dense commuter environments where audio feedback is constant and highly noticeable. - Players familiar with the Southeastern network will immediately recognise inaccuracies. High‑quality motor audio dramatically improves the driving experience, especially during acceleration, coasting, regenerative braking, and station approaches. - TSW’s audio engine is capable of delivering exceptional fidelity when supported with high‑quality recordings. A Respectful Plea If the Class 465/1 and Class 376 are considered for TSW6, I strongly encourage the development team to prioritise accurate traction motor recordings and detailed audio modelling. These units deserve to sound as authentic as they look and drive, and doing so would elevate the overall realism of any Southeastern route.addition to accurate traction audio, it is equally important that the seating layouts of both the Class 465/1 and Class 376 are reproduced with precision. These units have highly distinctive interior configurations that define the passenger experience and contribute significantly to the authenticity of any Southeastern simulation. The Class 465/1 features the classic Networker 2+2 suburban seating with its characteristic moulded seat backs, grab handles, and bay arrangements, while the Class 376 is built around a modern, high‑capacity longitudinal layout designed for rapid boarding and alighting. Accurately modelling these interiors—including seat geometry, spacing, colours, textures, and grab‑pole placement—would greatly enhance immersion and ensure that players experience these units exactly as they appear in real‑world service. Faithful seating representation is not a cosmetic detail; it is a core component of realism, especially for units as visually and functionally distinct as the 465/1 and 376. Thank you I really hope you see this.
A classic 376 would enhance any southeastern route. The trouble is we don’t have many southeastern routes, towards London at least where they’re more common. Hopefully one day we will see a proper Southeastern commuter route, either representing the Greenwich or Bexley lines. DTG are scared to model central London, probably too time consuming for them. A 3PD would have to take on the project.
1 varient isn't enough mate so U think there's enough 465/9 running across of London or smth we need it to make it seem realistic rn it feels empty
Just having the 465/9 was probably OK for Southeastern Highspeed but if there was to be another Southeastern route I'd be very annoyed if we didn't get the other variants. The 465/9 is inaccurate for present day anyway since first class has been removed.
Do Class 376s go out as far as Dartford? If not there's literally no route to put them on in TSW (unless I've somehow missed a huge intra-Road Map leak). If it's a Networker we're getting I'd be much happier if it was a Class 365 for a new ECML South route or on Scot Rail back in that brief spell they had on Edinburgh to Glasgow services due to badly designed cab windows on the 385s.
Yes, however the earlier variant is quite different to the 465/9, as it was built by a different manufacturer so has different sounds and a few external differences. It'd be unrealistic to have a Southeast London route without it since there are more early variant 465s than there are 465/9s and 376s combined.
if you want a dlc to be made then i’d recommend not using AI to write it, and then slapping some politeness on the end of it
Oh my, so many people think AI is the future when it's so flawed. My wife got an email from a customer last week that was clearly intending to ask for a jewellery repair to be done but then went into loads of detail about how the job should be done. She's a professionally qualified Jeweller in London's Hatton Garden and had to spend time responding to the effect that AI hasn't got a clue how to repair a diamond ring. Likewise, I was horrified to see that my recent psychiatrist appointment notes from a very well-known clinic was done by recording me then getting AI to produce the letter. It took a human 30 minutes to listen to the recording and correct all of the errors in the original AI-generated letter. It's not clever enough to replace humans and never will be.
