Hi Phil, fairly certain that all the loco swaps happened at Preston, I travelled on the afternoon L’pool portion a few times (often Class 45 hauled) it accessed the Chat Moss line via Golbourne Jct. & Newton-le-Willows Jct.
Yeah I'm certain that they were done at Preston too though I am sure there was one random one of an evening (so rules out 1M22) which was done at Wigan with it being routed via St Helens Central (or Shaw Street back then) and most likely a route knowledge retainer My mate is somewhat indisposed (he's in the pub) so can't get a proper answer out of him :/
Indeed, he was a big 40 lad so he'd recite the workings off easily. I'll try and find out tomorrow. In the meantime I have found someone's spotting logbook for 1980 with the following; 87023 Preston to Wigan NW, 1M29 47437 Wigan NW to Liverpool Lime Street, 1M29 They had posted it on Railforums https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/back-in-the-day.183327/page-43 1980 is a bit before my time so I'm not much use there myself :/
there are a few loco swaps on shap route with the 47, then route hop and run them though to blackpool on BPO.
This is really interesting! I was a bit young back then and sadly my old man is no longer around as he'd have known for definite. But back in the day there was an Edinburgh/Glasgow cross country service to Liverpool that would be diesel-hauled between Wigan & Lime Street. There were class 40s often on the Lime Street runs as I remember them based at Springs Branch. Now I may be mis-remembering or merging multiple memories, but there definitely were loco changes at Wigan back then. Be interesting to see if there's any in JT's timetable!
Still unable to get gold in the "put a gronk on it" scenario on Xbox Series X. I dropped 1 point from a stop marker and was still over 1000 AP short. No real places to run back and forwards. A fix for this would be great so I can gold my BPO journey Someone else on the forum said they had gold for it, but I can't see where I'm going wrong to miss that many action points?
I physically can't do anything else to get points is my issue. I missed out on 1 point for a stop. There must be some discrepancy somewhere I did it when it first came out and tried it again once I read your post before. There's no safety systems in the gronk or anything to turn on so I'm stumped with this one.
Safety systems are worth +65 per quarter mile. But seeing has this doesn't have safety system it doesn't matter you should be getting 65 points. I done it when it first come out but since then its had some patches. So I would guess that somewhere along the long the changed the scoring points.
That's what I meant. 30 points for distance + 35 points for safety systems. That's 65 points for every quarter mile. The results table says that no points were awarded for security systems. However, if they were awarded, it would only be 158 points given the distance traveled.
Sorry i miss understood you yes you are right still wouldn't be enough points. Don't why he cant get gold is anyone else having problems getting gold.
You can't get gold other than with some crazy back and forth methods. There are a few useful reddit threads about this if you search. https://www.reddit.com/r/trainsimworld/comments/1fq1iuf/bpb_scenario_put_a_gronk_on_it_how_to_get/ *added a link. The OP describes a method a few posts down. Whether anyone can really be bothered with all that faf though, I will leave up to you!!
