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Do you believe in flying pigs too?
DTG is doing practically nothing for TSW anymore.
The matter is now in the (very slow) hands of third parties.
Either they're resolutely developing a train simulator with UE5, or, dear friends, if Thomas and MR are the primary things, we're in a sea of... (merda).

 

So to all those steam buffs who have been crying out for more steam Looks like DTG listened and you have basically a game dedicated to it now!

 

Hello dear.
Everyone has their own (very respectable) opinions, and this is mine.
For me, TSW has reached its natural conclusion.
There's no denying that something different is in the air.
It's clearly visible.
Not that it's a bad program, but 9/10 years is a long time.
In any case, my money is ready for the next generation.
I've always supported you and will continue to do so, but now I'm taking a break from TSW and holding on to my feelings.
Have a good day.

 

The biggest issue with TSW is that to some extent it’s getting like the BBC, repeating the same type of content, awash with similar routes and trains.

As regards more exotic areas, well we are still waiting to see Tadami emerge. The Czech and Portuguese routes are presumably some way off. US and Canada have stalled. There doesn’t appear to anyone doing routes from Australia etc. or even interested in doing so, ditto places like India or even Scandinavia!

 

Licensing for multiple Countries could be a significant problem, and it's hard to blame DTG for that.
As for them always reproducing the same things, that's a matter of laziness. It seems impossible that (for example, for German lines) in 9 years they've produced only one type of tank wagon (zacns), which has been reproduced endlessly, or the Dosto with "high" doors that was never built (in their opinion, the differences compared to the Dosto with low doors wouldn't justify the effort to create it!?!).

Not to mention the same locomotives (for example, the BR 143) reproducing in various versions.
Furthermore, some rolling stock is equipped with active suspension while others are not.
I hope this is taken into account for a possible new, more "uniform" program.
What is certain is that TSW, after 9 years, is light years away from the variety that characterizes TSC due to the restrictions of the DTG, more than understandable from a corporate marketing point of view, but which ultimately made TSW very lacking in variety.

 

The UK releases, most of them third party ones, have rather become entrenched in a certain area, we're basically going to have a full English mainline in a few months and I'm plucking up the courage to ask DTG the question over whether this was a deliberate strategy and whether we can now expect a couple of years focusing elsewhere soon, please. I'm working out how to ask it in a way that improves my chances of an answer.

We had it before, in the early days we saw "What another diesel route?", then "another 3d rail Southern route?", there was also a time when it felt like we were seeing lots of Scottish content but that seems to have passed too.

Maybe some proper Network South East-era will be next to get some love, maybe it's time for the Eastern Region to come into the game with 8-10 new DLCs in 2 years like the "Other Lot" have had. Maybe, and this is crazy talk, we might see AC Slamdoors from DTG for the first time or a route we've never seen in a Train Sim, that seemed to the aim a few years ago but now we're in a period of doing routes that are already in TSC. So I agree, it's getting very dull at the moment for UK content, mainly because nothing is exciting for me. But my glass is half full and I think we will see DTG, Just Trains, AABS et al move out of their comfort zones and produce something that is genuinely unexpected and interesting for those of us who are desperate for a new driving experience.

 

When it comes to the scenery I dont think DTG dictate to the third party developers on where they can and cant design as long as the License is available to use..

Lets be honest Third party developers want to make money like DTG do and building a line(s) that they know will sell/generate income is where they will go..

Its smart to go WCML like they have, as we have all the rolling stock along with Avanti + XC License (and west midland License I assume from Cross city) while the WCML itself is probably Britain's most recognizable corridor as its the most busiest with both Pax and freight so people past and new will want to get it... IMO I feel AABS will remain on the WCML after trent valley and look to possible finish off the piece to the puzzle by going MK- Birmingham on the fast line which they would have already developed with TV and include the Northampton loop finally adding the 730 to the mix, why because it will sell.

Likewise Just trains one could add, they are known for developing BR era dlcs and they themselves are sticking to the WCML /north west since they are in the process of Preston's to Crewe and cumbrian coast as they know that will sell, especially to those who already own overshap and Blackpool branches being all DLC connect nicely.

its not all about the love of trains, these people want to earn so they will go to where the best chances of them are as they also need to attract new players and modern for new players is where they want to start.. and Im not referring to train buffs just those that have an interest in trains and think hey I was just on that line or travelled on that train and now I can do it on my PC or console (from there many of their passions grow and then think about hey lets try some of this older generation stuff)

 

You'd need to be constantly inhaling copium to even think there is the slightest possibility of this being a UE5 upgrade for Train Sim World.

 

You also have to consider diminishing returns if DTG and the others keep returning to the same old bits of the network with the same trains.
I also don't think the WCML was the most obvious choice in terms of sales. The ECML has far more history and maintains far more historic interest and unique features. Much of the character of the WCML individualism south of Crewe was lost to brutalist architecture during the electrification of the line in the 60s and early 70s.Euston is by far the worst terminal station in London.

With perhaps the exception of an APT for the 80's DLCs and a Class 730 pack for the modern ones, it really is time for developers to stop flogging the same horse and look at other areas of the UK that can also make a profit. The most glaring and most requested being the more interesting sections and eras of the ECML than the one DLC and one train made for it by DTG so far.

The far bigger financial rewards favour the brave.

 

Turning over route development to 3P's is not, in itself, a bad idea. But, given the problems with these routes at launch, it's important for DTG to exercise more supervision and QA over their development. ( with the exception perhaps of JT ).

Another issue is that no-one seems to be developing radically new locomotives so that the same ones or their variants turn up over and over again on various routes, either as layers or first line traction. Yet we're paying the same prices as when at least one new train came with every route.

And, speaking of the US, where is Amtrak? And how about some new freight locos?

 

The question about if DTG told 3Ps what to release has been answered before. They dont.

It is not difficult to understand why they chose the same area. We have said hundreds of times that we dont like empty stations or lines with less than half the traffic they have in real life. So it is normal 3Ps choose areas where they have rolling stock available to make the layers.

 

I would ask the two people who are bickering to consider editing or deleting their posts, so that an otherwise interesting thread does not get locked tomorrow.

 

Done.

 

Agreed. Not worth it.

 

This game could do with another US 3d party developer. Curious to see what High Iron make of their new route.

 

Have a couple of their routes and several scenario packs from TSC so I'm cautiously optimistic. Whether it will be for TSW6 or 7 no way to know at this point.