Route Midland Main Line - Feedback Thread

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  1. ToffeeKat

    ToffeeKat Well-Known Member

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    Adam, what are your thoughts on adding a mild implementation of exhaust emissions,
    using the Just Trains exhaust setup, on the MML HST ?

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  2. trainguy#6029

    trainguy#6029 Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick little bug I've noticed following the recent update; the AI don't set the head or tail lights on the HST anymore for some reason, and even when the player is driving - the taillights are still not on for the rear powercar and need to be turned on by the player.
    Very small issue but seeing trains running with no head or tail lights on is a pet peeve of mine, as I have recently discovered...
     
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  3. MJCKP

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    Not sure if this is new or has been around for a while, but some of the safety system isolation buttons are either mislabelled or linked to the wrong thing. DSD Isolation actually controls the Vigilance, and Vigilance Isolation actually controls AWS. There doesn't seem to be any way to turn DSD on

    Another minor thing is that if Automatic Coupling in the player assist menu is turned on and you couple two power cars together nose to nose, the coupling bar does not appear and they are only connected with air hoses

    This meanwhile isn't a bug, but if Skyhook consider making the guard panels on the Mk3 coaches functional and allow us to access the guard compartment on the 'A' coach, and the back of the power car, that would be cool
     
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  4. alert-agency2

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    Hard really to add the off branches to network for connection layers. Such has Grantham to Nottingham which doesn't have any station.

    Nottingham to Sheffield would be a great new add on, but Midland mainline would be outdated for it to link to. Would open up other services such has Northern services to / from Sheffield & Leeds.
     
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  5. Mark Moreton

    Mark Moreton Well-Known Member

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    Apologies if this has been mentioned before but noticed a slight issue at Barrow Upon Soar station.
     

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  6. csrail

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    With the West Midlands Railway & CrossCountry BR Class 170 DMU Add-On released, is it possible to get the CrossCountry 170 populated into the Midland Mainline? It is a regular sight on the line, notably between Nottingham and Derby, as well as in Leicester.
     
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  7. eMAyTeeTee

    eMAyTeeTee Well-Known Member

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    Not only that, but can we have the stations filled with AI only trains to off the map locations. Take Nottingham for example, it feels so empty without other 158s as AI trains. There should be services to places such as Worksop, Liverpool Lime Street, Norwich and Grantham just as examples. Other routes have these; such as ThamesLink at Peterborough, EMT at Peterborough, Grantham, Newark Northgate and Doncaster on ECML, or the Fife Circle AI at Edinburgh Waverly, on the Edinburgh Glasgow 158 timetable, which was also a Skyhook timetable.

    Having the XC 170s, plus AI trains would make the route feel so much more alive. Adding a 222 as a train DLC with a new timetable with these improvements would be a great way to implement this, except Skyhook already ruled out adding one
     
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  8. shredder

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    Ran the London to Lincoln (Leicester to Nottingham) service earlier, came in a few minutes late as the 158 overtook at Trent Jct and took priority all the way to Nottingham, however after completing service and ‘returning to Free Roam’ the HST reversed and ran out west to the Mansfield portal on the route. Is this correct? I fully expected it to continue eastward like the majority of Nottingham to Lincoln services.

    Also count my vote for inclusion of the new XC layers in and around this route!
     
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  9. matt#1927

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    Bumping an old post but for anyone who has travelled this route regularly it would be a great addition!

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    They have since added some 'street art' to the building in 2022 but as this route is presumably 'set' before HST withdrawal, you wouldn't need to do that and it faces away from the tracks anyway.


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    A building that is 'close enough' is already modelled in the right place. It's not exactly a gamebreaking problem, I just think it would be fun/nice touch if the dev team could shade it blue and perhaps add some of the coloured squares?

    I would have a go at modding it myself but wouldn't know where to start and don't need another project!
     
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  10. samuelpower2001

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    Just picked up route. Liking it. Some aws ramps don't ping etc after going over them.
     
  11. samuelpower2001

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    At east Midlands parkway platform 4 on service 2d07 no clear ping on aws after passing over.
     
  12. FallenAngel00me

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    Between Leicester and Sileby on the slow line? If so, that's intentional
     
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  13. samuelpower2001

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    I will have to check. It was i believe from Nottingham West bound
     
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  14. samuelpower2001

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    And Loughborough station didn't have a 40 board despite showing on track monitor.
     
  15. alert-agency2

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    Wouldn't the whole thing be better upgraded, has aren't most of the forementioned services ran by Class 170s, albeit no licenses for the EMR version. Norwich to Liverpool Lime Street still been Class 158s, uncoupled at Nottingham to form 2 car services to Norwich, coupled to form 4 car towards Sheffield / Liverpool Lime Street. Not ideal but Class 323s again by Northern for AI work between Nottingham & Leeds (maybe Outwood again) like ECML.

    Maybe you knows.
     
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    Services may be ran by 170s now under EMR, but not when under EMT. I'm not entirely sure specifics, but Liverpool to Norwich can be either. I rode it a few months back between Chesterfield and Sheffield (to change to Doncaster) and it was two 2 car 170s. 323s to Nottingham wouldn't work because no wires. Outwood isn't a stop for Nottingham to Leeds, and I genuinely have no idea why the 323s on the ECML route have thier destination as Outwood rather than Leeds.
     
  17. FallenAngel00me

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    323s definitely do not go to Nottingham. Nottingham isn't electrified yet
     
  18. alert-agency2

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    I was kind of been Hyperthecial, due to amount of Northern Class 323s noted as layers on TSW. But correct due to OHLE needed.
     
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  19. alert-agency2

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    Looking up now current MML Class 158

    2U07 Nottingham to Norwich is playable only to Loughborough albeit service doesn't run through Loughborough.

    Newark Castle to Matlock (this would be correct in 2026 timetable if not already following route to Cleethorpes from Matlock).

    Leicester to Nottingham

    Leicester to Lincoln

    Probably not set in present day anyway, rather modern but old but not in same sense as West Cornwall Local which is old.
     
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  20. maccagee#4924

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    Playing this tonight and I see they never got around to fixing the HST animations.
    I'm sure they said they were going to.
    For those who don't know it's when you close the doors, the last couple of doors remain open, even though they are classed as shut.
    I have to do the old trick, go to inside cab view and back to external to see they are shut.
     
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  21. BeastyBill88

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    I don't think it's just the game and it's LOD distances, I've noticed doors still open that are furthest away from me on a lot of other trains besides the HSTs
     
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    Yeah I noticed the 220 has the same issue with doors too.
     
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  23. marcsharp2

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    It's not just the EMT animations, the GWR HST also has it.
     
  24. OldVern

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    Started a quick run on MML last night with a 158 from Derby to Nottingham. Sadly, the route is not aging well. Everything seems to have a slightly soft brown tint to it. There are roads at level crossings where it just looks as if the plate has been placed on top of the highway, not merged into a continuous surface. Doing an early morning run the lighting is awful, everything is shiny and over exposed looking.

    The 158 seems to have inherited the slightly nerfed sounds that inhabit it's Scottish counterpart.

    Would be nice if SHG could revisit with a remaster or even extension (despite having previously ruled the latter out) and put the 158 sounds back to what they were. Otherwise, sadly, not a route I will be revisiting much again and the only reason to keep it installed is for the VP185 engined HST - another instance of needing to be able to separate trains from routes when deciding to manage installed content.

    Edit: Also just noticed, the points running into 4A/B at Nottingham are still missing switchblade ends, so your train runs across a virtual 4ft gap in the rails.
     
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  25. londonmidland

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    I believe this is either the materials were never updated to the latest TOD 4 standards and/or they were not set up correctly from the start.

    I'm not sure what platform you play on, however there is a mod which significantly improves the visuals of the Midland Mainline route - the foliage fix is probably the biggest improvement. It adds ambient occlusion and makes it look a more natural (darker shade of green) colour.

    Midland Mainline Enhancement Pack
     
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  26. OldVern

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    On PC so I might give that a try.
     

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