Fife Circle Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by derek#2931, Feb 11, 2024.

  1. Double Yellow

    Double Yellow Well-Known Member

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    It definitely has from what I can tell, this is someone who bought it day one. I know from memory they updated the vegetation, same what they used on the goblin line and enhanced other assets.
    My only criticisms, Edinburgh Waverley feels a bit deserted, hopefully the upcoming locos can add more life to the route, like Cathcart. Also I’d like to see airplanes taking off and landing at the airport and see a few boats passing under the forth bridge.
     
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  2. trainsimplayer

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    Edinburgh Waverley shouldn't be far off of Glasgow Central in this TT, the only train really missing is the 334 (as well as Lumo but that's only a few TPD)

    A 380 layer, at least, would be nice to see.
     
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  3. 390001

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    The 334 is a train I have wanted to see in both TSW and TSC for years surprised one has never appeared.
     
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  4. mikec1701d

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    I’ve just bought this route. Pleasantly surprised!

    Also. I know Rivet have committed to adding the Leven branch which got me thinking. Having read on the forums that it’s near impossible to extend routes and add track, I wondered how they’d add the new branch. Would they remake the existing map to add it? So I spawned in near the spur for the Leven branch, which is on the map. Being the curious sort I spawned a train and drove the short spur, expecting it to only extend a short way. Nope. Full branch is there - the track is fully laid to Leven itself. There’s not much in the way of scenery, apart from some roads and a few bridges. Looks like the terraforming is done too. So it’s a safe bet that they’ll be working on scenery assistant open up the branch without needing to be sneaky and drive it.
     
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  5. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    If the track is there then it's just a case of adding scenery and activating it with a timetable (like MML's freight yards or Meißen on DRA)

    It's when there's no track (i.e. SEHS to Dartford or LIRR) that it becomes a bit more of a rebuild.
     
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  6. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    ah, Meissen <3 loving branches and such, when you have actual pathing variety on a route :)
     
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  7. Bravo2six

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    I am curious, as I drove it but recall it being single track, while the new branch is dual track. So I'm interested to see how it is updated, and what timetable they create to accomodate it
     
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  8. 390001

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    the new branch is not all Dual track the first 1mile+ is single track
     
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  9. Class156

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    I’ve just finished a couple of services on the FC and I’ve got to admit to having enjoyed it. Yes, there are issues with scenery all over the route and some of the building assets are frankly very poor, however the overall ambience of the route is good and I’ve enjoyed driving the 170. If this gets a going over and a bit of spit and polish, it’ll be incredible I’m sure.
     
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  10. gwrphil811

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    I still can’t get flying Scotsman to show on the route any advice.
     
  11. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    I know it's been some time, but just clarifying things - the services via Dunfermline terminate at Glenrothes (with some shorter ones at Cowdenbeath) and the services via Kirkcaldy terminate at Markinch (in-game, that is, since IRL they go further to Dundee and such)?
     
  12. addry#6825

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    The new Leven brach is coming in 2026 with TSW7.
     
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  13. CK95

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    Yeah that’s correct.
     
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  14. razmatus#2517

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    thx, just making sure :)
     
  15. indeed_w

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    Did you guys know the Azuma runs on this route?
    Unfortunately the services are not playable but there is one from Markinch to Waverley at 10:13 and one from Edinburgh to Markinch at 20:20. (Sprinter Timetable)
    Currently working on the full timetable, should be finished soon ...
     
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  16. mortal1234

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    That’s cool. I never noticed that.
     
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  17. eMAyTeeTee

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    I noticed it when one came the other direction as I was driving over the Forth Bridge
     
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  18. e_a_

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    There's another Markinch to Waverley at 12:05 or so. While I was in the cab on that one started clicking buttons until I got one of those "you've used the headlamps", or something like that, messages and interestingly enough it said it was a "Lumo Class 803", especially because those don't run there
     
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  19. mortal1234

    mortal1234 Well-Known Member

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    Rivet please give us an extension up to Dundee please. :) Then we can have long HST runs on the route just like the TSC version has.
     
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  20. OldVern

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    Not sure what the Azumas are running on as the 801's from ECML only have the emergency recovery diesel equipment.

    Probably waiting till hell freezes over for Rivet to do anything else with this route, still haven't addressed the lack of rail resonance and running sounds on the 170's.
     
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  21. jack#9468

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    I wonder if that'll happen with the 171 pack?

    Not that I'm holding my breath.
     
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  22. indeed_w

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    It sounds as if it's running on Electric ;-)
    The one I saw also left Markinch with open doors while Passenger were still disembarking (and they kept disembarking while it drove out of the staion...) basically just TSW as we love it!
     
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  23. eMAyTeeTee

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    LNER don't even stop there do they?
     
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  24. indeed_w

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    Southbound services do stop, not yet sure about the others. They are not listed on the departure board however. But neither are they listed as AI-trains in Waverley or Haymarket... I assume they don't have a proper timetable with departure time but just a stop-flag...
     
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  25. JetWash

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    The Fife Circle EP and TT has all the Azuma services included, running on diesel
     
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  26. eMAyTeeTee

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    Shameless self promotion
     
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  27. OldVern

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    But technically they would be struggling as 801’s, not sure what the maximum attainable speed is on their limited diesel power but not enough to keep passenger timings.
     
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  28. JetWash

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    They’re not running on emergency diesel, they work as they should IIRC
     
  29. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    For a mod that’s a couple of years old? Ok then :)

    Just merely pointing out that on PC, if people wish to drive the Azuma on Fife as part of a TT, they can.
     
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  30. CK95

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    They’d have to be running on those since there are no other engines & there’s no overheads to make the run onto Fife.

    IIRC they top out at 40mph (on a good day).
     
  31. alert-agency2

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    Probabley old now, in terms of updates for futurestic purposes. But since you've mentioned the Azumas running AI, does it also have Class 220 included (Haymarket / Markinch) Aberdeen / Dundee | Glasgow respectfully?

    I bet it doesn't even have Class 390s layered in for AI or driveable.

    Let alone the dubbed Class 350s for TPE services.

    If you've not worked it out, Aberdeen / Dundee | Haymarket.

    Plus to add the Class 43 upgraded timetable / Edinburgh for Aberdeen not included Glasgow Only.
    Correction this is in the Glasgow - Edinburgh via Falkirk route, but still inline for this route if Class 43 was brought in.

    Unsure related to above Class 170s to Aberdeen.
     
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  32. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    I know what we did to it. It will happily run at line speed and accelerate sensibly etc without issue :) Try it. Run electric to Haymarket then do the power switch and start the diesel engine etc
     
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  33. OldVern

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    According to the information I can find, the Class 801’s are only fitted with one MTU DPU per set. A five car Class 800 or 802 is fitted with three DPU’s and a nine car with five DPU’s. So sorry but IMHO DTG and Rivet are fudging it by allowing the 801’s as modelled in game to work away from the wires, when in reality they would struggle to get up any sort of speed. From what I’ve read about GWR and the fuel injector problems, if more than one DPU is out on a 5 car or 2 on a 9 car, set comes out of traffic so far as diesel operation goes.
     
  34. OldVern

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    So a fudge, then… :)
     
  35. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    I think you’re maybe taking it a little bit too seriously as far as the EP goes :) It’s a mod and it works so just enjoy it! I can’t comment on the actual Azuma in the game and what is done with it as it’s nothing to do with me.
     
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  36. mortal1234

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    Interestingly the real Fife Circle is getting electrification now. I think they are putting up OHLE from Haymarket to Dalmeny then all the way up to Leven. It will be crazy to see trains such as the 380 / 385 going up north. I’ve always seen them as Glasgow trains.

    Edit - https://scotlandsrailway.com/projects/fife-electrification
     
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  37. Double Yellow

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    I wonder if Rivet or DTG will update the route with OHLE eventually.
     
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  38. maccagee#4924

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    They won't be. Not unless they reversed the decision to not electrify the Forth rail bridge for which they are ordering new battery electric units.
     
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  39. OldVern

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    Ah sorry, complete misunderstanding on my part. I thought this was part of the DTG/Rivet/SHG timetable, not a modded one. I shall withdraw gracefully… :)
     
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  40. JetWash

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    S’ok. I’m only talking about the modded TT and the modded train just to be clear. IIRC we added engines to all the cars that should have had them, so it should work fairly realistically
     
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  41. SteveRail

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    Yep you are correct, will be battery electric trains, tender process in underway I believe.
     
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  42. CK95

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    Brace yourselves for incoming Stadler.
     
  43. mortal1234

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    Ah. That’s interesting. I didn’t know that lol.
     
  44. Caravatt

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    And they're approaching to phase out HSTs too, unfortunately... Don't know if there will be a transition period (someone talks about 180s).
     
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    I believe 222s are replacing the HSTs
     
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