Not sure if on topic, but didn't Digital Traction have coach packs (Mk1, Mk2 etc). These have now been succeeded by the ones from Armstrong Powerhouse. Coincidentally, I think the old DT Mk1's now come with a few routes (Woodhead)
You would be correct. Thereare the Digital Tractions Railworks Mk2e Coaches DLC released on Steam on the 9th of December, 2009 and the Digital Traction Railworks Mk1 Coaches DLC that were released on the 15th of January, 2010 on Steam. You can still get the Mk1 Coaches as they are bundled with the Woodhead Route, the BR Class 76 & 77 Loco Add-On and the Robinson O4 + Woodhead Route Bundle.
If the Woodhead coaches are Digitial Traction ones then somebody managed to fix the tail lamps that appeared on the wrong end of some vehicles. They also changed colour to a muddier shade of crimson and cream. I would have thought they were more likely to have their origins in the Kuju coaches. The Digital Traction ones were apparently withdrawn for the tail lamp issue (the way they were made was not as it is done today), but were subsequently released by Armstrong Powerhouse but I guess they were replaced there with new ones for that same reason. I did try to modify the DT ones, I had some success on a few but gave up on some coaches that just wouldn't play.
The Mark 1s and Mark 2Es were first released by Digital Traction and were available on Steam. The Mark 1 pack is currently included in the Class 77 pack (not the Woodhead Line). AP took in both packs and released them with their own sounds and released them separately, however both were available at the same time for a while and one of them even used the same file structure as the DT version, meaning only one could be installed at a time. AP eventually replaced both packs with their own models.
If you say so. They must have been additional to the blood and custard ones supplied because, as I said, they were a different shade and the tail lamps worked as they should. As I already had the Digital Traction ones it wouldn't have been obvious if they were supplied. But why on earth would they supply both? I am far from convinced but I'm not going to make a big thing of it.
Thanks for not making a big argument about this as I have already seen it result in a large argument before on this forum. But I think I can finally put this case to rest with a definitive answer. I have the Woodhead route, and can confirm the Digital Traction coaches are supplied with the route. Here are the files in the file directory: Steam>steamapps>common>RailWorks>Assets>DT>DT_MK1_coaches And I decided to lay them all out in the world editor too! So I can confirm you can still get these coaches today and they are bundled with the Woodhead route.
That's funny, when I first bought Woodhead I didn't get them. Maybe I'm misremembering or it was a later change.
It appears to have been a later change. It has been added to quite a few bundles over the years actually. On the 13th of October 2014, it was put into the Train Simulator 2015: Steam "Halloween" Edition but was later removed from this bundle only a couple hours later. It was also then added to the TS2017 German First Class Edition, UK First Class Edition and US First Class Edition briefly too but only for a couple hours once again. But it seems to have been permanently applied to the Woodhead Route and Robinson O4 + Woodhead Route Bundle on the 4th of October, 2021. On the 6th of October it was also added to the B1 Loco + Woodhead Route (Twin Pack) and something called the RailWorks 3 The Woodhead Line Retail DLC even though both of those aren't / no longer available to purchase. However strangely I cannot find anything in the update history showing it came with the BR Class 76 & 77 Loco Add-On. But it seems it was already bundled with the Woodhead Route before October 4th 2021? I bought the Woodhead route on August 31st, 2021 but still got the Digital Traction Mk1Coaches. It's pretty strange. I recommend just searching up "RailWorks Mk1Coaches DLC" in your DLC for the game to see if you got it.
The mystery gets deeper. Having checked, I did actually get it from Woodhead first when I bought it in 2018, so I was wrong earlier. That happens a lot to me nowadays. Anyway, a year later I got it again with the Class 77, so during this time it must have been bundled with both as it is now.
It appears I got mine with the Woodhead too. (Note for transparency: I edited 2 screengrabs into one image to get the date and size info to show because of small window and scrollbar)
In your Steam account details, go to your list of purchases, then find either Woodhead or the Class 77. In it you'll find an entry for each DLC included, so Woodhead will have one for the route itself, the ELAP and the Mark 1 pack. Click on the Mark 1 pack and it'll show you when you got it, including each duplicate activation of it.
Steam always shows the package acquisition date. Many moons ago we discussed the same pack and I was researching the same. Since I have a spreadsheet with all my DLC, it was clear I received this later - it wasn't in there. Also my DT asset folder was created on 2021-10-04 at 15:57. All the files have the same timestamp, too. DTG may have wanted to add this somewhere, thinking this suitable. Similar to the BR 155, UP GTEL, Class 801 and others.
I don't know if it's relevant but in my DLC list it shows the Academy and Class 801 as being bought in 2013 when I got TS. Both were given out for free later on but the date shows the date I first claimed TS.
Thanks for the clarification, all - as I already had the DT coaches before Woodhead came on the scene, I guess I would have simply not noticed if they had come along with it. Sorry to have caused all the research that has had to be done upon my questioning..
Sorry everyone, I have neglected this thread when there is still more removed DLC that I have not documented. Here is the next batch. LOCOS Railworks Class 56 DLC, developed by Iron Horse House and released on the 1st of October, 2010. I believe this isn't the same Class 56 in the BR Sectors Class 56 Loco Add-On currently available for purchase on the Steam store. RailWorks 2 Flying Scotsman, developed by RailSimulator.com and released on the 5th of November, 2010. I assume it's the same LNER Class A3 as featured in the LNER Class A3 'Flying Scotsman' Loco Add-On currently available on the Steam store. RailWorks 2 SD70ACe Pack, developed by RailSimulator.com and released on the 19th of November, 2010. I assume it's the same EMD SD70ACe as featured in the Union Pacific SD70Ace Loco Add-On and / or the Union Pacific Heritage SD70ACes Loco Add-On available for purchase on the Steam store. MARKETPLACE Railworks AssetPack01, developed by RailSimulator.com and released on the 8th of October 2010. It appears to be a general asset pack of, well, buildings from the UK. Railworks BonusScenario02, developed by RailSimulator.com and released on the 22nd of October, 2010. An extra scenario named "Keeping up with the Diesels" that seems to at least feature a rather unfinished looking British Rail Class 47 and some kind of steam locomotive, probably an LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0. I would assume for one of the original routes of the game such as Hedborough North.
I have seen the IHH Class 56 being used; they are the same model and share sounds. This one is still available, it is included with various older routes.
Really? The models look different to me, different weathering and the front yellow bit looks darker in the available version on the Steam store. And yes I forgot to mention about that assets pack being included with older routes, I did mention it when I edited the original post in the thread though.
It does look like the old SD70ACe pack with a couple scenarios and a free roam for Cajon Pass. The picture itself looks like the Overland Route, quite possibly it was rearranged after its discontinuation. And of course the newest UP SD70ACe with the Granger Heartland route, if I recall correctly. Is there value in having every individual version, or is it about having each class / livery, and scenario available to play? Something similar to the idealized approach of AP with their reissues. (Silly example, what about the old Kuju HST with its procedural sounds?)
What you say has nothing to do with the model though, you're talking about textures which can be edited without changing anything on the actual model
It depends on the person's preferences for getting these old DLC I suppose. That is a fair point, thanks Reef. I have slightly changed the original post of the thread to state this.
BNSF SD40-2 pack: Train Simulator: BNSF SD40-2 Loco Add-On Price history (App 222577) · SteamDB (actually two addons in one - one with BNSF-patched BN-livery SD40-2s and one with full BNSF-liveried SD40-2s) seems to have recently disappeared from Steam...
^^ https://store.steampowered.com/sub/28314/?curator_clanid=4777282 I can see them (although I own them)
Train Simulator: BNSF Locomotive Pack Add-On (SubID 28314) · SteamDB The BNSF Loco Pack includes three previous BNSF loco DLCs in one. These are the SD40-2, GP38-2 and F45. The GP38's Steam ID appears to have been taken over by the bundle and the F45 oddly appears on Steam separately but has only the loco pack as a buying option. In total eleven scenarios are included in the bundle, and with the content available I personally see the BNSF Loco Pack as a general Marias Pass Expansion pack.
Yes, they are priceless now: But I can click them. Anyway, this was the state of affairs on 2022-03-29 for a sensible buyer - this pack is part of the Marias Pass. I suppose they tried to consolidate by merging old, tiny DLC. Makes sense for new buyers, can be awkward for those missing half of it.
If you change you view in the Steam page you can either hide items you own or have them shown. They appear slightly greyed out with the IN LIBRARY on the left.
I am one of those new buyers - is it the case that players who owned one or two of the DLCs before the merger can no longer buy the remaining one? If so, you will be able to contact DTG and potentially request the remaining DLC. I've done this for both South Wales Coastal and the North London Line, where buying the extended version prevents you from buying the original version and therefore means any trains that have scenarios for those original versions cannot be played.
IF anyone doesn't mind me ask but does anyone Know where i can find and get the BR Class 02 for Rail simulator and the IHH BR Class 11, 75T Steam Breakdown Crane, BR 4MT 4-6-0, 76T Diesel Crane, BR class 44 Peaks, BR Class 45 45/1 46 peaks, BR Class 17
IHH stopped making DLC for Train Simulator some time ago and is no longer available Some IHH DLC was released by DTG - Class 45 and Class 17
No, not that I know of. It was over 10 years ago that IHH dlc disappeared - and I was confusing the Class 17 with the Class 14 The Class 17 is not available.
There can be no IHH archive because they were never free products, and all models passed to Railsimulator.com/Dovetail Games to choose what they wanted to do with them. John
There are no replacements for the steam crane, the Class 17, the HS4000, the CoBo, and a number of other trains. I doubt they’re asking to find trains that are readily available on Steam.
IHH shut down in 2013, so this was 13 years ago. And I believe IHH had a 'no repainting' policy. Class 303 was one of the IHH products that later went to DTG and re-released. This version had poor sounds. Armstrong Powerhouse did Class 303 sound pack which included two new reskins, but this was discontinued a few years back. Glad I got that pack before long. IHH DC Electrics (Class 76 and 77 locomotives, and Class 506 EMU) is another example.
That is true, but a number of the trains they wanted are available from other providers and in most cases have better features than the IHH model. The 3DZUG crane is much better (IMHO) than the IHH steam cranes, though I accept it's modern, not heritage. I have the IHH CoBo. It's not well coloured, has basic functionality, has iffy sounds and I don't know why anyone would want it in preference to the other much better modelled diesels in its power range that are available, but I accept if you must have a CoBo then only a CoBo (even if poor quality) will do.
Paul Godber who was IHH was working on his own train simulator called trackside, I wonder what happened to that
It is all according to one's desires. If you are a nerd for accuracy (like me) in a scenario, as far as schedules and locomotive allocations are concerned, then if it is a Boko I need, that's what I want. But I don't find it very driveable, it doesn't sound or feel right. Those models come from another age, really, so I tend to use them mainly for AI traffic. I remember the last I heard working in anger, thumping its way through Seascale in the late 1960s on a freight, makimg a thudding noise like no other loco I have ever heard. After they were withdrawn, D5705 survived in departmental use and I saw it at Hendon a couple of times but it wasn't working hard and that unique noise was not so evident. They were such a different type of engine is so many ways, I would have great fun if a "decent" model was made. But I doubt it ever will. J
I believe that you can still get the original Class 02 from this Class 111 DLC code sold on Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Class-Add-Online-Game-Code/dp/B00U31241Y For some reason that, the 8F and the now delisted "Granfield Branch" are bundled with it despite it not being mentioned. However you have to live in the UK to purchase it from there or have someone you know in the UK buy it for you if they are willing. As an Australian the latter is what I had to do.
Except those models did not reach DTG. The Class 77 (EM2) was poor. The Class 76 (EM1) was not much better. Both of them used AC Electric "Tapping" controls A better Class 76 was released by DTG for the Woodhead Blue Route The 506 was totally wrong in details, shape and length IHH Version DTG version
Had a comparison between the two 506s yesterday funnily enough, but DTG has got to be far the best. The IHH was an all-round, not-so-detailed model! Who wants that anyway?
There is a reskin in to Green on the UKTS Backup page https://archive.org/download/ukts-a...37888_Class506_BR_Green_Yellow_Panel_V1.0.zip
