Tsw 7 - What You Want?

Will there be any decent PC hardware left for us plebs soon, or will it all be sold to the tech bro billionaires for their AI fantasies?

 

I hope we won't have to ask ourselves this question... but as for food...

Here in France we've had anti-theft devices on meat for quite some time...

 

In the UK we have it on beef steak at quite a few places!!

 

Happy New year everyone !!! . What i would like to see from tw7 a 9th Gen only version 2/ an Upgrade to unreal engine 5 like they have done on there new Ip Metro racers & South West train with the Voyager Br class 450 in SW livery

 

To be honest, I'm beginning to think there won't even be a tsw7. Metro Rivals has clearly taken priority, (Even the hecking tsw loading screens have Metro Rivals on them). Sure they'll say "oh they're separate teams", but that doesn't inspire much confidence they are of equal importance. How many people actually work on tsw still and haven't been transferred over? Sure there's no way to know that, but I suspect it can't be many. Look at the December roadmap, there's a whole two pieces of first party content, (New York to Stamford and the DB BR 147);

Compare that to previous roadmaps from around this time of year;
January 2025; (because I couldn't find December 24, maybe season of reveals replaced it)
This has Mannheim - Kaiserslautern, F59PHR, Thomas and Friends Visit the WSR, Cardiff (OK that was Rivet), Zwolle - Groningen and the Koln-Aachen update.

Now December 2023;
Here we have two US routes, two German routes, and Austrian route and a UK route, plus Koln-Aachen update.


Compared to previous years, dtg clearly has a lot less to show for itself when it comes to first party tsw content, not to mention they've already started subcontracting UK stuff...

 

They seem to be doing a TSC where they start off and they mostly leave it to the third parties, probably improves the chances of something working first try /j

 

This. They may not state it publicly but I’m betting they have mortgaged the farm on MR being a success and it could be quite serious for the future of DTG if it isn’t. As I’ve said previously, Giants have jeopardised the future of Farming Sim following their failed venture into Project Motor Racing, leading to massive downsizing and staff layoffs.

 

How could it possibly be a success though. Where is the player base for that game?

I guess you do get surprise 'sleeper' hits sometimes that just capture people's imagination, but I don't see it myself.

 

That is exactly the worry.

They have gone to the trouble of creating NYC Subway lookalike tunnels and trains for MR yet continually trot out the "no access" excuse for not creating a Subway route in TSW, which would sell like hot cakes. And no one who even wants to half seriously drive the Subway is going to give house (hard drive) space to MR. Not just dead in the water but IMHO stillborn and we just have to hope it doesn't take TSW and the dregs of TSC down with it.

 

Yes, framerate goes up, but also the ghosting and artifacting can get worse than TAA.
And I'm not confident in DTG to implement it correctly.

 

Ebula and equivalent systems, nuff said

 

I don't think there is any reason why they did this other than stopping players using previous version of TSW? I have TSW3 loaded onto my system and it runs perfect, I have asked can I port my progress back onto the old version of TSW...I am still awaiting a reply?

 

I want....

no speculation about the next TSW before early summer each year!

 

Thankfully those 2 things have seen major improvements in the update that pushed to beta yesterday (via the new transformer model). I was actually blown away, and it'll only get better. But for sure agree that it likely won’t be implemented correctly and/or efficiently by DTG.

 

This as got me thinking also about their new project, don't know how many eggs they've put in that basket so to speak,but i think that it's a very good guess to say the bulk of their team and finances remain in the serious trainsim side off things,Sim games are a generally a niche market as it is

 

Here's the thing, a niche market's not the bad thing it's framed as per say, yes your customers are limited but it means there's less competition. Case and point, look at TSW's relative success compared to the outright bomb that was Flight Sim World. Former's a niche market, but one DTG clearly knows to some degree and have had cornered for years. The moment they tried to compete in a established market with stuff like X-Plane & P3D they failed, and failed hard. None of their other ventures besides fishing have really stuck for any period of time either.

I'm also just saying, most creatives don't get the privilage of having a audience that will follow you from high fantasy to a band film restoration like Peter Jackson. It's nice in theory to try and branch out, but reality is most attempts for creatives to branch out often don't work out. It's not the answer most of those sorts want to hear, but often the best decision is to just double down in your specific niche and stick to it.

 

Bug fixes.
VR support for PS5 (I wish)
Less recycling and more new products like Class 25, 26, 27, 50, 55, 56, Hymek, Warship, slam door southern region, slam door eastern region. Craven 2 car, Derby works 3 car
Beta testing for consoles like Microsoft/Asobo.
Real live weather.
More dirt, more grit, more rubbish, masonry, tracks, crisp packets, empty cans, cigarette butts, used condoms, carrier bags, flies on the windscreen. TSW is too clean, it does not reflect real life on the railways, real life its grottier, more grime.
Better lighting at night

 

Amen to all this. Well we’re probably not going to get the condoms with the PEGI 3 rating, nor in Guard mode have to deal with ne’er do wells smoking weed in the toilets, but at times the “World” of TSW is a bit squeaky clean and sanitised.

 

I want to be able to say "Class" and "Passenger" and "Liverpool" and "Blackpool" and not have to worry about bottoms and worse
I'd even accept a Cockermouth if one proved necessary to play TSW7

 

- bug fixes
- crash fixes
- correct announcements for TOCs, if licensing covers it
- request stops
- more tube lines
- interesting behaviour from npcs fixed
- passengers walking through train carriages
- more all aboard studios routes

 

About safety systems:
TSW turns off safety systems by default for accessibility, i think they should have an optjon in general settings to have safety systems on or off automatically.

 

Oui

 

I thought it was to do with the fact AI trains can’t cancel AWS etc? If you activate the safety systems and then let AI take over the train the AWS just keeps sounding.

 

Hey some of us have to live there!

 

Backwards compatibility for all DLCs, which was ended abruptly in TSW6.

Read more here: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/posts/1082714/

 

I often wonder if it's directly related to licensing.
Remember a similar issue back in the early days of Forza and Gran Tourismo. I believe the manufacturers would not allow anything but clean versions of their stock to be licensed.

May be the same with the modern routes.
I know JT managed to get some of the grotty feel in the Blackpool route.

 

Backward Compatibility for DLC that can bought in TSW6 and TSW7. For ex right now if you buy an addon in TSW6, to use it in TSW5 you will have to buy it again. You should keep the TSW5 and under policy (ex buy in TSW5 do not need to buy it again to use in TSW4). OR better yet, the next version is just called TSW and they keep updating it vs: TSW7, TSW8, TSW9...

 

Of course that 3 letter word is not considered particularly rude over here in the US. I mean calling someone a " smartass" is quite OK. And describing someone as a " horse's a** " is rather mild these days.

 

Getting back to the thread, I notice that at least 3 items on the January 2025 Roadmap still haven't shown up: Tadami, Class 104 and GWE remaster. Maybe that's what we should be wishing for in TSW7!! A year is a long time at my age.

What do you think will still be outstanding from the February, 2026 Roadmap a year from now?

 

Then the solution is to have them automatically switch on when you take over the train.

Surely that can't be hard to do.

 

Definitely Tadami, Class 104 and the GWE Remaster?

 

Mmm let me think ,I know.!....tadami line ,class 104 and last but not least the ever elusive GWR remaster lol

 

With TSW7 I'd love to have two things:

1/ New style of the game UI/menus.

2/ New cumulonimbus clouds added to the weather.

But 2/ could be left for the release of TSW8.

 

If another TSW is released after TSW 10, so TSW 11, then the world will end in a supernova

Before that i'll will play this track

 

As someone who has invested in this game since TSW 2020, I’d just like it to run without crashing, blurring or stuttering on my 9th gen console.

 

I personally agree that they shouldn’t bring out another game but this is my idea:

we get a gameplay pack with 1 British route, 1 German route and 1 US route instead. And then this could just cost the same amount without any problems at all. We could also have a deluxe version of this gameplay pack with the extra train in each route and possibly even a special edition. I think this would be so much more ideal than just having a new game every year.


What I would like to see for this (even if they did just do just make another game is


UK: I would love to finally see south western railway in the game. This route has been a very highly requested option for train sim world aswell as many UK rail fans living around south west London and in the south west of England. Maybe between London Waterloo and Winchester or Basingstoke.


Germany: I would love to see an extension from fulda and would love to possibly see some ICE4s in the game.


USA: I’ve never really been a fan of American routes but I would love to see another route what would support the acela express.


I would also like to see features like:

In non-school time for there to be smaller train sim world passengers (specially in rush hour to make this more realistic) (everyone are adults)

I would also like to see video mode. We have got the feature in our latest train sim world games where we can take photos of trains and roam further out of stations and railway lines. But I would now like to see a video mode of this feature.

I would also like to see passenger and station announcements on many old routes.

I would also like to see some more effects on trains hitting the rails (as in when the trains screech along rails) this should appear more when slowing down into stations and turning corners)

 

I have no evidence for this, just a bad feeling, but if they try and charge everyone for TSW7 unlike the previous free upgrade if you don’t buy the route, then that’s me out.

like I said, I’ve no evidence they’ll do that but it’s a hunch I’ve got.

 

Stop making me download almost half a TB (soon even more) every year and redoing my mod-setup ect. just so you can have a slightly better marketing for a few days.

 

I've suggested something just like that before.

They could simply add new features to TSW 6 and sell the whole thing as an update with 3 DLCs. As you described, they could also release deluxe and special editions that include other old DLCs, which would be easier and cheaper than buying the old DLCs separately.

 

TSW7 I'll let Otis Redding finish this off...
What you want, baby, I got it
What you need, do you know I got it?

 

I want TSW 7 to drop the 7 and add Remastered to the title. So the game will be called Train Sim World Remastered and I guess I don't need to leave an explanation on my expectations.

 

I don't want to see a Train Sim World 7. I want to see DTG drop the numbering system. Make it Train Sim World and focus on core updates and fixing long standing bugs and bringing in newer version of Unreal Engine 4 instead of yearly numbered versions that break everything in their DLC's until they rebake them.

They can release a 3 route DLC ("new season") so to speak that introduces new features etc, but based on a solid core engine that's bug free or minimal bugs.

 

-Faster loading times on boot
-Scenario Planner overhaul
-Dispatcher mode
-Guard Mode overhaul
-Services to tell you what stations your train stops at and formation
-Ability to create a playlist of services
-Passenger system overhaul

 

I want Indian railways so I can see how the devs handle passengers riding on the roofs of carriages. I want to be able to accelerate around a curve and see how far I can throw the furthest to land from the track. I think that would give Metro Rivals a good run for its money!