March Roadmap

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  1. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    It is pricey, but they’re the only provider that can do anything like that and if you live in the sticks and have no other option it’s an absolute Godsend tbh.
     
  2. bakedpotatos.jm

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    So your point is more people enjoy driving games than playing train games?

    That basically all that proves and I already knew that. Flight Sims and Driving Sims have more players than Train sims as there is more interest in them than trains.

    And I can honestly say that flying a plane or driving a semi truck is alot more complicated than driving a train.

    All.you do is speed up and slow down. There ia no turning.

    And also ETS2 is not on console..yet. so times that number by 3 to get a more accurate number fornTSW as there are more console players than PC. And some PC are on Epic as well. So its not an accurate depiction.
     
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  3. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Can you actually elaborate on what you mean by this?
    You are significantly overestimating the degree of effort and computing power hitboxes require!
     
  4. vodka#2734

    vodka#2734 Well-Known Member

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    Okay. Not 1,100 people online, but ~5,000 across all platforms. The difference with ETS is still huge.
     
  5. stujoy

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    They have a lot more than 50,000 customers. Those Steam charts show how many players are playing at any one time. 50,000 is just the peak concurrent players that day.
     
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  6. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    And driving games are way more popular than train games its a different demographic.

    My brother plays ETCS and ATS but he could care less about trains. He thinks they are too simple.
     
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  7. vodka#2734

    vodka#2734 Well-Known Member

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    That's right. The audience is much larger, and creating content is much easier.
    It's funny, but training to become a train driver takes several years, not much shorter than training to become an airplane pilot. But hey, to each his own. Can you really blame these people?
     
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  8. Bryer

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    Depends on the route you take to do both.

    Fast track for a pilot is 2 years.
    An apprenticeship for a train driver is 2 years.

    While yes you can become a qualified train driver in 12 months, depending on who you work for and the route requirements, it can be 18 months as a norm.
     
  9. smugstarlord#4202

    smugstarlord#4202 Well-Known Member

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    Also has one of the longest and intense role applications aswell
     
  10. vodka#2734

    vodka#2734 Well-Known Member

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    What short terms... In our country, the minimum training period is about five years at a railway university. Yes, they're now starting to reduce the training period to two years due to the driver shortage. You can get a truck driving license in just a few months.
     
  11. Bryer

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    Sounds like it's an over complicated process.
     
  12. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    Getting a truck driving licence or even a PSV licence is so much easier than being signed-off to drive a train. My brother-in-law quit his job as a prison guard and joined the main bus company in his city as a trainee driver, within a year he'd been a driver and had been promoted to an Inspector.

    Road vehicle drivers don't also have to obtain the modern equivalent of what was the Trackside Safety Certificate, learn rudimentary fault rectification, customer services training, route knowledge training and traction type training. And each has to be maintained with a mixture of refresher courses, updates to rules/standards and a limit (I think it's still 6 months) to how long you can go without driving a route or traction type. I was shocked when my Bro-in-law said he didn't get route learning training on the buses, he would frequently go out in his car to learn a route in his own time, then mark them in his trusty A-Z map.

    It is a complicated process, but a review of railway journals from the 1960s reveals a near weekly incident on the network that could have cost lives. Nowadays, thankfully, we often make it through a year without there being a newsworthy mass-casualty event involving a train here in the UK.
     
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  13. eldomtom2

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    Well, the more relevant comparison is air travel, if it is the case that rail driver training takes much longer than pilot training...
     
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  14. Wivenswold

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    Indeed. The two roles are incomparable, pilot training doesn't start with big jet planes, you have to slowly work your way up from single engine craft then you have to be no.2 in the cabin effectively working under the captain. It can take up to a decade to make it to the point where you're the Captain. So train driver training doesn't take anywhere near the same time to reach the point where you're in charge of a mode of transport.

    The time it took me to be able to operate a study level EMU in TSW compared to a study-level passenger aircraft in MSFS 24 is mind blowing. I've been flying (virtually) for 6 years and I still couldn't tell you what 60% of the buttons and switches in an Airbus A320 are for.

    The natural skills and the training needed to be a competent jet pilot are off the scale compared to pretty much any other occupation, let alone other forms of transport.
     
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    There's a bit of that, but true, not to the same extent.
    It depends on the network. The RATP are a real pain in the neck, for example.
     
  16. Bryer

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    Not if you go into the fast track schemes at some of the commercial airlines. Easyjet stick pilots in their simulators with minimal flying time in actual aircraft until they go out and start doing line training.
     
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    Do you think we'll finally see the Scotrail HST this time?
     
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  18. mortal1234

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    I hope so. :). I’d like to see anything Scotrail to be honest.
     
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  19. Crosstie

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    Had a little difficulty figuring start time for today's Roadmap because US DST started yesterday.
     
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  20. eldomtom2

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    tempus aestivum delendum est
     
  21. Crosstie

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    Let's hope not. Actually I'm on CST. :D
     
  22. Disintegration7

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    Roadmap still happening today?
     
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    Nürnberg Ingolstadt.... That must be a joke or what? 30min Highspeed.... Sorry a little cheap
     
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  25. Villalad

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    Exactly! Why not just carry on to Munich?
     
  26. cloudyskies21

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    For a new high-speed route, really would've liked a brand-new ICE 4 or ICE 3neo.
     
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  27. eMAyTeeTee

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  28. jesper2805

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    Exactly! Reusing a few wagons and giving the ICE3 which is no longer up to the game’s standards a slight touch‑up with vague updates, and then selling it for 36 euros… I actually find that embarrassing.

    I would honestly find it really bizarre if they charge full price for this. In terms of gameplay it’s also not exactly the yellow from the egg…
     
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  29. DTG Lukas

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    The wagons are not reused! 2 of 3 are build from scratch actually, that is quite alot of work to make the München - Nürnberg - Express reality =)
     
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    Nice to hear, but the route and its length just isn’t fun! It has 2 stops with the MuNex......
    The route itself is just boring. There’s nothing to see except a few hills and a highway. Other than that, tunnels… Basically a half version of Kassel - Würzburg, where the gameplay also isn’t exactly amazing. Fun to do every now and then, but Nürnberg - Ingolstadt is even duller, with basically only high‑speed running and very little to do.

    Sorry, I don’t want to sound rude, but this just isn’t it for me.
     
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  31. Villalad

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    Well...half a reality...because it's only half the München - Nürnberg Express
     
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    Maybe the ScotRail HST was a figment of our imagination!
     
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  33. 85hertz

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    I really like the Electrostar audio. Hopefully it gets ported to the rest of them, or at least the 375s (Blue and White), but not holding up much hope for that.
     
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  34. Puddington Bear

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    The pricing will be interesting and make the difference.

    Since it's that short and the only new vehicles we get are two coaches (being well-built mind you) I don't see a 39,99 € quote for this TSG route. Even 35,66 € will be overpriced for my money, but that seems to be the standard quotation for any route DLC nowadays.

    Should they quote 39,99 € without adding any new game-changing secret features, it's gonna backfire for TSG for the first time.

    If it were the first route to include a working EBuLa....quote 39,99 € and I'll happily buy it. Promise to backport EBuLa and I'll gladly pay a small update fee for older content.

    I'm with Jesper on this one, and that's a first from me for a TSG product.
    I will get it to support the small German 3P scene, but I don't see a day one purchase for the first time here. And depending on pricing possibly the first one which I'll have to wait for to get in a TSW7 sale.

    That being said: TSG please prove our grim expectations wrong!
     
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  35. mortal1234

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    What do you reckon ??. GTA VI releases before the announcement of the Scotrail HST ???.
     
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  36. Wivenswold

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    I didn't know that. Looking at Easyjet's safety record it's clearly good enough. It's the airline that rhymes with "Brian Air" that I won't touch with a barge poll. To quote the late Sean Lock "they're playing Kerplunk with passenger safety".
     
  37. Puddington Bear

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    If GTA stands for Grand Train Arena, then he might have a point. /s
    Afterall who knows what DTG is working on behind the scenes.
     
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  38. Wivenswold

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    "Edinburgh to Paris via London" according to my very unreliable source. You have to route hop across the cab rank and Pancras Road though.
     
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