What Happened With The Hell Gate Bridge ? :(

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  1. MaxBenchip

    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

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    Dovetail just uploaded the route showcase video, and boy... I love the New Haven Line a lot but it's going to be hard to order it... I feel like the scenery is really really hit and miss for it/ Take a look at the differences between the real thing, the one in TSW 2020 and the one for the soon to be released route:
    IRL:
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    Copyright "Noki Va"
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    Copyright "Rob Zand"
    Now for TSW 2020:[​IMG]
    Found here
    And the one from the new route : Capture d'écran 2026-03-18 175147.png
    Found in the video.

    Honestly, for me, even the 2020 version is better... What happened ??
     
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  2. sam5166

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    WIP perhaps
     
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  3. PseudoStalker

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    DTG really needs to work on texturing objects - some look like they don't have their own texture at all, just material from a 3D editor applied.
     
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  4. Jetset-James

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    You’ll find out in the post release preview
     
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  5. Princess Entrapta

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    This just looks an awful lot like the way I always complain about TOD4 lighting just blasting all the texture out of stuff. It's probably using the 2020 textures, but you can't tell because of how washed out it is.
     
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  6. mortal1234

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    The bridge looks brilliant but the colours look pretty washed out VS TSW2020. You can see the difference. TSW has had this ever since TOD4 and especially at certain times of the day such as the afternoon or mornings when it’s clear weather. The only time you get strong vibrant colours is during evenings while the sun sets. I feel like this is where TSW could really do with an improvement.
     
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  7. Princess Entrapta

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  8. mortal1234

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    I don’t think that’s a draw distance issue sadly… they probably just haven’t modelled tall NYC buildings where they should be.

    As said above though it could be a WIP screenshot.
     
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    "Post-release preview"?

    Actually, for those of us who procrastinate too much, I could see that being a thing.
     
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  10. MJCKP

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    The scenery behind the bridge seems quite bad
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    Where are the buildings :o

    (deleted earlier post to get rid of some personal info, if anyone is confused where original post went)
     
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  11. Princess Entrapta

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    the river literally cuts off along a straight line and you can see the ground under it.
     
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  12. mortal1234

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    Yeah I see what you mean. You could be right
     
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  13. Princess Entrapta

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    Either way, it is definitely a matter of concern.
     
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  14. Mikey_9835

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    Anyone else getting Rivet Games vibes? I wonder...
     
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  15. PseudoStalker

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    To me it looks like a regular DTG
     
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  16. Jetset-James

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    Tyler is going to be on the post release preview, so I’d imagine Rivet have had some involvement.
     
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  17. pedro#1852

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    but was rivet directly involved in the route development? wasn't it just tyler who created the scenarios and the timetable for it?
    btw, tyler work on class 170 pack was good
     
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  18. mortal1234

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    The scenary is very lacking there. Should be tons of tall buildings. Not quiet countryside lol.
     
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  19. mortal1234

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    upload_2026-3-18_18-21-36.jpeg

    Here’s another view. Looks a little bit better from this angle but still not quite like the real version of the city. I love how they modelled the Freedom Tower. Nice detail. Can’t see the Empire State Building though….
     
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  20. CK95

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    Yeah much better, they really captured that giant void in the middle of the city.

    They’ve done NYC way too many times for it to be looking this bad, and now they have the gall to charge premium pricing for it too.
     
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  21. bdlaplaca

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    Tune into tomorrows stream. We will be running an amtrak service along this stretch and you might be happily surprised :) . To be clear, preview photos are approved sometimes a decent chunk of time before development ends.
     
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  22. CK95

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    I mean yeah, but often they’re just what we’re going to get, and it perplexes me that DTG are unable to get more upto date versions?

    This is the media being used to show the route off. It’s not doing a very good job.
     
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  23. MaxBenchip

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    I really hope you're right ! Thanks for the info
     
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  24. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    i really do hope thats not the case. or else how is it worth this much for just copying the old asset and placing it in this new one. DTG Alex DTG Harry DTG JD DTG Matt The lightning especially in grand central terminal, doesn't even feel right at all. I been saying this so many time and they still haven't fix it at all. This is not good DTG Team :( I am happy that you finally did the stamford line, but there are some work that still need to be work on.
     
  25. jonnyd7

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    Isn’t it just an updated version of 2020? Don’t think it was built from scratch. Def looks like a WIP since manhattan is missing buildings that were shown in a newer screenshot.
     
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  26. MAX1319

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    Yea this is a much better representation of what to expect. I wish they would had shown other captures that were taken. But before you buy please tune in to the stream and that should make it easier to make your decision
     
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  27. mortal1234

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    Oh don’t worry I’m still buying this route. The teaser video looked really good. Been looking forward to this since it was announced.
     
  28. Inkar

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    Just going to say that after watching the showcase video I'm not impressed at all.
    Hope that, as Max1319 says, the DLC is better than what was shown in the showcase video.

    If that is the case, wonder why they make showcase videos that present the product as something that is worse than what is actually released. Makes no sense.
     
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  29. trainsimuser

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    this has rivet games written all over it that bridge structure reminds me of the fife circle houses textures.
     
  30. Princess Entrapta

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    There's a DLSS5 meme in here, somewhere....
     
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  31. Anthony Pecoraro

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    Nobody seems notice this screenshot.
    StamfordOverview_HellGateBridge.jpg
     
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  32. trainsimuser

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    bridge still has the same bland textures on the brick structure regardless of it being darker and zoomed away
     
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  33. Anthony Pecoraro

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    I was talking about the background scenery.
     
  34. bdlaplaca

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    So I can't show any photos at the moment, but I did get up close to the bridge asset. Up close and as you are driving, it is pretty detailed compared to the clip from the preview. You can see the individual stones for example.

    I think it was the lighting, the distance of the camera, and possibly video compression that affected the look of the asset in the clip.

    We will make sure to take a look during the stream tomorrow.
     
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  35. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    it could be pre post before everything else was finalize which they decide to not go through all trouble to get a better representation. I hope that won't be the case.
     
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    ok i did not see this screenshot. still the lightening in grand central terminal is still wrong and weird. Doesn't feel like the same vibe as the real one.
     
  37. Anthony Pecoraro

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    It looks fine to me.
     

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