Loco Br Class 90 Freight Loco - Feedback Thread

• Platform PS5
• Service/Scenario All
• Repeatability. Every time I try to drive
• First issue I’m having is with the train moving. I cannot apply traction at all and so went to the training centre to do the loco training, followed all the steps and I release the brakes and cannot apply traction.
• Second issue is the inability to acknowledge the DSD or AWS with the “O” button on the PS5 controller. This has to be done by actually clicking the pedal or the plunger in cab which on console is quite problematic for obvious reasons. It won’t cancel in any scenario or training that I’ve tried.

 

As above but on Xbox series X

 

It’s annoying because I’ve installed it, I can’t refund it. But I also cannot use the DLC. Clearly not been tested on console as per.

 

• Platform: Playstation 5
• Service/Scenario: Any service with safety systems turned on
• Repeatability. Whenever the AWS alarm goes off and needs to be interacted with

Having issues with the circle button not canceling the AWS alarm and bringing the train to a stand by penalty brake aplication, unable to use safety systems with PS controller. have tried another controller and also have the same issue, have tried other trains on other routes (and other trains on the same route, no issue.)

No mods installed, current version of TSW6 as available on the Playstation store, Only UK routes installed, ~450gb free space on the PS hard drive.

 

Well, nothing quite reinforces the idea that content is rushed like buying something day 1.

[PS5]

Activating DSD before applying power will put you into an unrecoverable brake dump.

AWS & DSD cannot be acknowledged via controller binds, you need to click in cab or use a keyboard.

The sounds…oh boy the sounds. Easily the worst soundset I’ve heard in a while. The cab HVAC is on a 3 second loop & it’s unbearable after 30 seconds. Traction & running sounds are spectacularly poor, when under power there is a very faint second sound set which sounds like IRL running noises that weren’t properly cleaned up? Either way if you get beyond the HVAC loop, then the god awful noise (seriously if you remember the older 187 traction noises they’re about there) of the traction motor(?) at 75mph will do you in.

When you don’t have power applied, you get a brief reprieve from that soundset…before the exact same screech starts again, only this time there are some better track sounds. It honestly sounds like 2 different tractive soundsets were recorded & 1 gets applied whilst under power, then the other starts when coasting.

My biggest concern about this pack was the gameplay, but I couldn’t even make it 20 minutes into a 1hour run, this pack very easily slots in with the 187 & 385 for poor sounds. Accuracy doesn’t even come into it, they’re just unbearable.

 

Same as above on PS5 but will also add that this pack only adds a new (and deserted) WCMLS timetable with nothing in the sidings at Wembley and limited other services. There is nothing on the the other WCMLS timetables. Add to that there also appears to be services missing as the 'prep' timetable runs start at Part 3 and 4 (no mention of 1 and 2). There goes £12.99 that I'll never get back.......

 

Playing on Xbox series X and can't moving on the training center, i follow the tutorial and it look like i don't have power.
Finaly like other say, pressing B don't acknowledged safety system.

Correction: I was able to start the locomotive by clicking on the locomotive controls; the controler shortcuts don't seem to work like RT or R2 on PS5 like pressing B or circle for safety system.

 

Same problems here. The audio, my god the audio. I gave up on my first go, it's unbearable. A masterclass in how not to do it. Look out Rivet, you've got real competition.

 

• Platform: Playstation 5
• Service/Scenario: Any service
• Repeatability. AWS/DVD need to be pressed with cross hairs. Will not move forward under power.

Attached YouTube video. Really disappointed with day one release, has it not been tested?

 

Hi Guys
Keep the feedback coming
On the safety systems we are looking into why this is happening with DTG currently and when I know what’s caused the issue in the release build I will let you know

sounds were always going to be a tricky one but we are noticing some sounds are missing so we are also checking that as we speak I will report back when we have more news

 

For now, using a keyboard with my PS5 lets me use Q for the AWS and it avoids the broken controller keybinds. If you happen to have a USB keyboard handy then I suggest using it for the Class 90

The DSD dumping your air is a tricky wicket though,

 

Playstation 5

There is some kind of hole or light bleed, maybe a misaligned join bug???

On the door controls behind the drivers seat, on the bulkhead.

 

That’s already on our list cheers mate
That was one that was missed

 

Hi mate hopefully the correct build being released will solve this issue for now drive without DSD on and it should take power no issue
I can assure you this was tested on pc unfortunately we can’t test the console builds so this bug didn’t crop up until the last day of QA we provided a fix and were assured it would be in with launch.
we rely on DTG for console issues
DTG are aware and are hopefully pushing a patch asap

 

is there a timeframe for this issue to be fixed, the wrong build for Manchester Airport Commuter being released was fixed almost instantly so there is no reason that this shouldnt also be fixed in a similarly quick fashion, all things being equal?

Also, is anyone else having issues with the brakes? moving from one shunting service to the next and the brakes seem to be holding at 4bar and not fully releasing. am i doing it wrong?

 

also, unless i am just not seeing it, how the heck does one change the loco into goods timing from passenger timing for the brakes?

 

Hi mate
I would love to give you a timeframe I am awaiting this news from DTG myself we were told at 1300 the builds were sorted just awaiting confirmation of a release time
On the brakes front no issues of this kind were reported during testing nor have I experienced them myself
If you could provide us with a video or a detailed explanation of how your getting this issue we can happily look into it

Brake timings are fixed in pass mode with the 90 currently as all freight liner runs are in pass mode

Hope this helps

 

thanks for the update Alan. I’m a fan of your product absolutely loved MAC route (no chance of it going Crewe in future).

was looking forward to the class 90 hopefully issues sorted soon.

 

Wrong build released AGAIN............. either someone at DTG is incompetent and should be sacked, or someone doesn't like ATS... Either way it's a terrible way to try and build a positive experience with players.

Obviously we know that at this stage everyone at DTG run's and hides and takes zero responsibility.

 

Its not just us that this effects sadly DTG have an awful lot to juggle with lots of DLC all coming at once while its far from ideal I do feel for them in this as well I am sure neither of us are happy with this I have spoken to the DTG guys several times today and they re Woking out the fixes as quick as they can

 

Cheers mate I am looking forward to seeing the 90 on MAC

 

I'd love to see it on WCML routes other than MKC to Euston.

 

Why not both?

 

We have plans so all I can say is watch this space on that one
We are excited for this as well

 

Once the 90 bugs are fixed and it layers to other routes other than WCMLS, I'll then pick it up.

 

Of course mate you grab it when it suits you

 

i hope that its sooner than we had to wait for the Sprinter Express timetable for the Fife. i know thats not an ATS route, but if it takes almost a year for a Class 158 timetable to be "QAed" and released then there isnt much hope for the Class 90 coming any time soon.

You say the update is done and passed along to DTG, well so was the 158 Timetable... for months...

 

i already paid the schmeckles for it, so i mean it will be a bonus when it does come, but DTG have themselves a history of sitting on these kinds of updates for *seemingly* no reason.

 

I share your frustration I really do but my hands are tied when it comes to release slots it’s not something we have control over
All we can do is make sure any issues that are found in QA we fix asap
So as long as we can keep our side up then all being well the updates will be easier for DTG to handle

 

Did i read correctly that the pc build will have a download for higher textures?

 

theyre all at the same level i think, unless the PC textures have themselves a step ladder

edit: sorry, i am being so negative about the Cl90 i felt a joke was in order

 

We will be releasing a pc only mod as soon as we can but bug fixes come first

 

Thank you

 

to be honest, the speed in which the MAC issues were fixed makes me have every faith that these issues will also be fixed. i am still frustrated that i need to play sans safety systems or else use a keyboard but to be honest most of my issues are also VERY fisrt world problems.

If i may ask a (maybe?) related question, is there any plans to fix the timetable? it has 799 playable services compared to the 950+ services on the other four timetables, would beefing out the timetable to match the other ones (or at least the defalt one) be a possibility at all?

 

We have been as quick as we can for MAC and were the first third party to push our TSW 5 over to 6
On the timetable front we will have more news soon so please bear with us bug fixes will be our priority for the next few weeks then we will have more news

 

I hope i wasnt too unkind and that my criticisms werent too out of pocket. again, its a video game i like to play so its not "the end of the world" and i appreciate the fact you and your team are on this. thank you for not just leaving it as is and moving on.

 

We are all passionate about our hobbies mate and as customers your entitled to your opinion how you want to put it across is up to you but we see the feedback either way so no worries at all man
It’s all appreciated good or bad

 

Is anyone else not able to move when the reverser is in forward? The train will take power in reverse but not forwards. This is on PC

 

not sure if this is a bug or intended, just installed all the things and my 805 layer still isnt showing up?

 

The 805 isn’t included in the timetable unfortunately

 

This is not one we have seen no can you give me a bit more detail please is this in a Freeroam
Cheers

 

Hi, It was in timetable mode, I assumed that I was doing something wrong, so went over to the training module and it is doing that in there as well. Thanks!

 

I can't take power at all. Only tried in timetable mode, service 4M63. PC/Steam.

Let game load, activate DSD and AWS, key in, move to neutral (or forward, tried both), acknowledge AWS, brakes release, try to take power... nothing. Forward and reverse.

EDIT: Just to aid troubleshooting, I seem to be constantly traction locked (according to the HUD). Moving the reverser to off and back to forward seems to clear it momentarily, but after a few seconds of power I get traction locked again, even with power applied.
EDIT2: Pinned this down to a DSD issue - as long as I never enable the DSD at the start of a timetable service, I seem to be able to run (or at least start the service - I haven't got much further due to testing).

EDIT3: Just tagging Alan Thomson for visibility of the workaround.

 

there is a layer option in there though... for both the 805 and 807.. like someone put those layers in there, no?

the layer also highlights/greys out depending on if the Evero is installed or not, so the timetable is recognising its there.. why would there be a placeholder layer in the timetable for it if its not in the timetable? im so confused rn

 

The exact same thing is happening to me. But seems to take power in reverse. Strange....

 

Sadly this is another add-on where scoring doesn't give correct points (+65) when below speed limit with safety systems on.
Will refund and rebuy when fixed. I play on PC (Steam)

 

They did it to firefly on ps5 too

 

Try starting the service but never activate DSD (AWS is OK). That seems to be a workaround for me.