Speed Limit Change On Birmingham To Crewe?

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  1. james64

    james64 Well-Known Member

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    Last night I thought I'd have a run in a Voyager between Birmingham and Stafford on the modern timetable (not the original 2019 one).

    I was surprised to find that between Wolverhampton and Stafford I was limited to 110mph. It was definitely 125mph for Voyagers in the 2019 timetable, but this was the first time I'd had a run on one in the new timetable. Is this a deliberate change or just a mistake?
     
  2. Fast-Track UK

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    That's weird, I ran an 805 down the same stretch last night and it was definitely still 125mph
    I can't imagine speed limits should be different for either train though, unless this was intentional.
     
  3. historicalduck7

    historicalduck7 Well-Known Member

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    i found the same thing the other day and was rather surprised by it, even more confusingly it’s still 125mph going the other way
     
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    805’s shouldn’t be doing 125mph. Only EPS stuff (tilting trains like 390) are permitted to 125mph on WCML.
     
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    XC have the titling deactivated on their voyagers. Only if tilting is active can they do 125mph.
     
  6. historicalduck7

    historicalduck7 Well-Known Member

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    the section between wolverhampton to stafford isn’t EPS, so 125 is permitted on normal consists such as the 390, 805 and 220
     
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    but the limit is still 125 going southbound
     
  8. james64

    james64 Well-Known Member

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    That's incorrect. Class 220s never had tilt equipment to begin with and have always ran at 125mph.

    And did you even read my original post? I said that on the route's previous timetable you could run at 125mph.
     
  9. Fast-Track UK

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    Between Wolverhampton and Stafford, line speeds for all trains is permitted at 125mph. No EPS limits are needed on this section so it doesn't have any.
     
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