Route Stuttgart - Heilbronn Feedback Thread

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  1. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    thanks a ton, downloaded that pdf, looks super useful :) ... anyway, what would happen if you happened to stop there :D - IRL vs in-game :D
     
  2. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    ok, so I ran the service a couple times, with the help of save game as well... so I approach Stuttgart, go into 30 kph... then I cross a magnet, 500 Hz, so I slow down to 20, just in case... and I even tried PZB Override... and I still get penalty brake as soon as I am crossing between the two locos that stay on different tracks... am I doing sth wrong or is it a bug?

    edit: I tried holding PZB Override as I was going over the magnet as I was passing in front of the 218 stationed nearby... still got penalty brake... what the hell am I supposed to do? no signage, no signal... just 500 Hz magnet and then out of nowhere penalty brake upon next magnet... like... am I supposed to stop before the next magnet and then proceed?
     
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  3. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    I have tried even 10 kph over the next magnet, and I still get penalty brake... like... I get the 500 Hz, I slow down to 20, and over the next magnet, I get penalty brake

    edit: tried multiple times... slow speed... I even tried halting completely before the next magnet and then proceeding super slow... still got penalty brake...

    edit no.2: definitely a bug... I even tried stopping before the magnet, and then got to crawl at 5 kph... still got stopped

    so, I sent a ticket... damn, not even removing the train on the other track helped... nothing... will try playing a different service, see if I get the same treatment
     
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  4. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    sorry for multiple posts, but I post feedback as I go :) ... so, did a different service, this time I managed to get to Stuttgart Hbf without issue... like, I got that 500 Hz, thats ok, and then my service changed track to the left of those parked 218s (in the bugged service I went to the right, towards the bugged magnet), and proceeded at 20 kph towards my platform, and flawlessly stopped at the buffer

    anyway, just OCD-ing over stuff, there is a loco symbol on the right screen, is there supposed to be the lightning or not? cos in some videos I saw it just white/blank, and in some there was the red lightning... I know it is the train line power, but I wonder which is the correct state to show (and if it matters in-game):
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  5. neonym#9140

    neonym#9140 Active Member

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    Which service (for example) was with that bug? I will try it too.
     
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  6. noir

    noir Well-Known Member

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    My guess is that either you messed up with save game (which still breaks scripts on most locos, not sure why people keep trying to use it), or you messed up with illegal release from monitoring :)
     
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  7. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    RB 19963 - Heilbronn Hbf to Stuttgart Hbf... this one, no matter what I did, I got penalty at the magnet after the 500 Hz one... tried a different service and that one sent me to another platform, but I didnt get penalty on the second magnet
     
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    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    nope... I tried the service like 3x like restarted it, still got the penalty

    as for illegal release, also no - I had a PZB monitoring and I didnt mess with it, it released on its own, then I got the 500 Hz magnet, and even though I was going 20 kph for the second magnet, I still got penalty brake (released on its own also on the other service I tried, but didnt get penalty on the second magnet after the 500 Hz)

    I will try one more run on that specific service, just for the peace of mind
     
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  9. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    just to confirm, ran the service again, got the penalty again... going 20 kph under 500 Hz restrictive... so this one is definitely bugged
     
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  10. neonym#9140

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    Yes, I can confirm there is something weird in the PZB behaviour when entering Stuttgart hbf platform 4. When I drove RB 19963, I've firstly got 500 hz magnet which did not cause emergency stop, but it started to count speed from 65 kph. Few meters after this I was zwamgsbremsed (my speed at that moment was 20 kph).

    Then I've tried to go from Stuttgart depot to the platform 4 and I've just got 500 hz magnet (without ZB), and was not stopped until I stop in the station.

    It is all just weird.
     
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  11. rshifflet#2142

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    What is not clear to me is why, once in Heilbronn, bringing up the TSW route map shows a station to the NE as Suelmertor. I cannot get there on foot in free roam.

    That is Heilbronn-Sülmertor as the first station towards Neckarelz ( which will be where the proposed Neckartal route ends.)

    Is access to Sülmertor station part of a Mastery reward ? Is it hope that Heidelberg trains will one day reach Mannheim ? The RE trains thru Sülmertor are Heilbronn-Mannheim trains.

    And there is a pedestrian overpass now just SW of Sülmertor to link academic buildings for students and staff. It is very noticeable after crossing the river IRL.
     
  12. AmityBlight

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    That's something I noticed on a couple of newer routes, the inclusion of stuff on the map which isn't accessible or even completely built.
    Two good examples on this route are the harbour area of Heilbronn, especially the northern end, and the industrial area west of Ludwigsburg. Both are accessible, but they look rough to say the least.

    Same thing on Liberec-Stará Paka for example. On the map, there's a load of small branch routes, industrial connections and a couple of small stations around Liberec, but only a small part of it is accessible/built.
     
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  13. traingamer08

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    I drove the IR 2403 from Heilbronn to Stuttgart with the BR 218 locomotive. I switched to photo mode at the Neckar bridge in Heilbronn and at the station in Bietigheim-Bissingen. When I tried to switch back to the game, I was teleported below the map. I couldn't get back into the driver's cab and had to restart the service both times. I didn't have this problem at Stuttgart Hbf. I also noticed lighting issues in the Prag Tunnel, where some sections of the tunnel are as bright as day. While the overall performance of the route isn't unplayable, it's unpleasantly choppy throughout the whole route. I'm playing on PS5.
     
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  14. GeraltDW

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    The under-the-map bug after photo-mode happens to me, too quite often. Seems kinda random, sometimes it happens, sometimes not - I have it on any route with any loco. But you can get back to the cab by pressing the "1" key. Sometimes the game is also still in kind of a "pause" mode, when coming out of photo mode, then I have to press "esc" for the menu and a second time "esc" to go back to the game and it will run normal again.
     
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  15. traingamer08

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    Thanks for the tip, but I'm playing on PlayStation without a keyboard. I've encountered this issue on other routes before. Usually, reopening photo mode and returning to the game fixed it. But this time, nothing worked.
     
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  16. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    If i where i would use a keyboard it makes things so much easier .
     
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  17. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    I believe it might be either for the AI services to have some paths to go to or possible areas that might have been worked on but didnt make the final cut due to time or whatever restraints, I guess :)
     
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  18. GeraltDW

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    Of course, I can't say for certain on PlayStation, but I assume there must be corresponding keys or key-combinations for the same functions. Maybe those help, too. :)

    (On PC, 1 is the cab-view, 2 the "orbiting" outside camera, 3 the closer outside view, 8 the free camera ect ... I guess/hope on PS there is a key or something for those things, too)
     
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