What Modern Day Uk Route Would You Like To See In The Upcoming Tsw Game Release Later This Year

Definitely. Because Rivet have stopped making routes it’s gone quiet for Scottish content sadly. However there is the Scotrail HST coming up at some point so hopefully that is getting paired with a new route.

 

Thats a nice looking route

 

I do apologise if I cant respond to everyone's comments there are some brilliant suggestions on here

 

1 of the 3 'headliners' i'd like to see...
1. ECML North - Edinburgh <> Newcastle
2. NWML - Chester <> Holyhead via Llandudno (with planned extension to Crewe)
3. GEML - London Liverpool Street <> Ipswich (with planned expansion to Norwich)

and additional UK routes for during TSW 7...
1. North Clyde Line East - Edinburgh <> Airdrie via Bathgate
2. WCML North - Carlisle <> Glasgow and/or Edinburgh
3. Wherry Lines - Norwich <> Great Yarmouth & Lowestoft via Acle & Reedham

 

Waterloo to Portsmouth direct with slammers for me!!

 

London Waterloo to Southampton Central

Southampton Central to Weymouth

London Charing Cross & Cannon Street to Hastings

Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads

Plymouth to Penzance

 

That’s a good shout

 

Nottingham to Skegness via Grantham.

 

One of my favourite DLC in TSC are the Scottish suburban lines.. would quite enjoy seeing this with the inclusion of the 320 and 318 which can then also sub onto Cathcart

If they go a WCL v2 would have to match the last working year of the castle sets and the riviera TT, Would be such a good run from Exeter to Penzance across 2 DLC...For me personally and despite its game play being limited would really like to see the Class57 night Riviera..

if they are willing to release a GBR80x which offers no significance and minimal gameplay surely we can start getting more train packs that offer better variety to many current DLC, like a 320 + 318 or TFW 197 and Northern 331 + 195

 

Other than diversions the sleeper doesn’t run between Inverness and Aberdeen. The Inverness portion runs south as does the Aberdeen portion, meeting up in Edinburgh

 

doncaster/ sheffield to birmingham for me based around 2017 so there is hst services running along side 170 220's for cross country. as well as freight turns and 37's off rtc.68's were doing rtc turns at this point as well

 

Settle & Carlisle Line would be a great choice, as the historic line was restored to operation after repairs. Some railtours with Class 50, Class 55, and steam power could be part of the timetable as well as both mainline freight and passenger operations.

 

That would be great but the downside is that there are only a handful of passenger services a day, not as much freight anymore either.

 

Yes often suggested. It could include the District Line between Upminster and Bromley-by-Bow, C2C services London to Shoeburyness (via 3 different routes) with a mixed stopping pattern.

Freightliner traffic from the Thames Gateway terminal near Stanford-le-Hope and other sidings at Tilbury and Grays as far as Barking for onward travel via the North London line (bit of a gap between Barking and Stratford) or the GOBLIN meaning you could drive a freight train from the Essex Coast to Crewe.

 

Only if Just Trains do it in the late 80s or early 90s, that way there's a good bit of variety on the route, i think a modern version would be to quiet.

 

No surprises from me from DTG.
UK - C2C as above or Greater Anglia mainline Liverpool St to Ipswich/Felixstowe/Colchester Town and the branch up to Sudbury (Including Elizabeth Line from Shenfield to Stratford).
D - A chunk of the Berlin or Munich S-bahns would please me too.
FR - A wildcard but a French regional route, either along the Med coast or a sizeable section of the mainline between Paris and Toulouse.
US - I'll leave this to the experts, only electric trains for me though. Not a fan of slow freight.

Just Trains/ATS - If DTG went for C2C instead of Greater Anglia, then I'd love JT to work with ATS and do the London to Ipswich line set in 2003 with Class 86 and 90s on the Anglia and Freightliner traffic. Classes 312 and 321 on Great Eastern services.
Other TP UK releases announced - Crewe to Holyhead and Newcastle to Edinburgh.

 

None. I want to see older routes.

 

Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads would get my vote. Its a stunning route with variety of services.

 

First choice would be the Cotswold Line - Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill (I may have mentioned it several times in other threads...haha sorry not sorry!) But with GWR 166, HST, and now the IET in the game all the stock is covered for a transitional HST>IET era route (and the 166 does still run a couple of times per day even now).

Another choice, and perhaps a slightly 'off-piste' variation on some other similar suggestions in this thread, would be an East Anglian 'network' route. Starting from Ipswich, taking in the GEML up to Norwich for some faster runs, the East Suffolk Line via Saxmundham to Lowestoft (inc branch down to Felixtowe and the freight terminal for some Cl.66 action!). Then from Norwich the Wherry Lines to Great Yarmouth/Lowestoft and the Bittern Line up to Cromer and Sheringham. Lots of potential for interconnecting runs?

Stock would obviously be the FLIRTS, just because they're new and something different.

 

London Kings Cross to Peterborough

This section runs for about 75 miles, adding the Moorgate branches and Hertford loop it would put the route just over the 100 miles mark. Instead of having an A to B linear route we’d have better service variations with multiple points to branch off on the line.

The ECML feels as if it has been all but forgotten at this point, too many other mainlines are centre stage now. Plonking the GBR 802 on it doesn’t count

 

I'm wondering if the fact that a lot of the WCML is being put in the game, is to have at least 1 of the UKs main trunks mostly complete before they turn there heads towards its sister route the ECML

 

I would like to see the full Metropolitan Line, Chiltern Line and the Severn Valley.

 

Wherry Lines with the FLIRT.

North Wales Coastal.

Just Trains Class 50 pack

Skyhook Games Class 156 pack

 

Aye the 156 would again fit nicely into a lot of routes, how common where the 50s, i grew up in the NW so they were incredibly rare, in fact i think i may only have seen them a couple of times at preston from the mid 80s to the late 90s.

 

Well at some point they'll run out of WCML to do, in fact in a few months the only remaining sections left will be Carlisle to Glasgow (and Edinburgh please!) and the missing bit between Crewe and Manchester, although that's not on the core route.

I'd also like to see modern versions of the northern sections and 80s versions of the southern sections, but that might be asking a bit too much... I suspect we'll be seeing a new ECML route with the 91s within the next two years, maybe even with TSW7, as that's going to be their new go-to route for fast, slow and freight services and a nice opportunity for some extra DLCs (including a Deltic railtour pack please!)

JB

 

In 1967–1968, the Class 50s were built for British Rail’s Western Region and initially introduced on the Great Western Main Line, working fast express services out of London Paddington toward Bristol, Cardiff, and Exeter. At this stage they were effectively replacing older diesel hydraulics and handling heavy intercity trains on the electrification-limited routes of the West Country.

By the early to mid-1970s, as operational needs changed, many Class 50s were reassigned to the West Coast Main Line, where they began working long-distance expresses between cities such as London Euston, Birmingham, Crewe, Manchester, and Preston. This period marked their broadest geographic use, as they became standard motive power for many cross-country and Anglo-Scottish services.

In the late 1970s through the 1980s, their core territory shifted again. With electrification expanding on the West Coast Main Line, Class 50s were concentrated more heavily on the West of England Main Line, running semi-fast and express passenger services between London Waterloo and Exeter. This became their most iconic operating region in later years.

During the late 1980s, under Network SouthEast branding, they were increasingly confined to secondary mainline duties and seasonal or relief services, often still on the Waterloo–Exeter route, but with reduced diagrams as newer traction took over.

 

What would be more important to folks, say if we had both the WCML and ECML but only the modern version, would folks hate it, if say they did a 80s timetable but on a modern looking route like diesel legends, or would you want the period correct route modelled, for me personally unless its steam based traction, i wouldn't mind an older based timetable on a modern route.

 

I like the idea of Chiltern Mainline but would we have the complete line from Marylebone to Birmingham (unlikely) or maybe the two sections from Marylebone to a) High Wycombe and b) Aylesbury Vale Parkway. I would certainly be interested in the latter.

 

I hope that is the case. There’s only so much WCML left for AAB to do now, unless they do the remaining branch lines.
I would like to see to see a modern day route venture to Liverpool Lime Street from Crewe.

AAB are extraordinary route builders and it’s an exciting prospect for what they could develop next. The ECML should be the next logical choice as they seem like the type of 3PD who like all their content connected, and there’s a lot to cover on the ECML

It should stay modern as the current section of the ECML is modern. No reason to not add the 91 as dlc though. It works for the GWR with the diesel legends pack, so why not on the ECML.

 

Newcastle Upon Tyne to anywhere. Iconic location both to the station and railway history in general.

 

For PC users there are a some brilliant party timetables that do this, WCML Preston to Carlisle set in 2019, ECML set in 1998, Northern Trans-Pennine in the 90s, etc. It does break the immersion slightly to see cars and station clutter from 40 years ago when you're supposed to be in the modern era (less so than being in the 90s and seeing cars from future) but it's fairly easy to ignore and is a good compromise, as opposed to hoping someone will build the same route in a different era. I think some of the timetable packs actually go so far as replacing some of the PIS displays etc but I can't remember.

JB

 

yeh there is a mod to go along with the 2019 WCML timetable that changes a few things like PIS boards, also some scenery assets and moves the Morecambe station to its current location:

https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...-preston-to-carlisle-2019-v200-modernistation

you activate in your masteries section.

 

If I were doing a top 3, I'd have to say:

• ECML London to Peterborough - The route is iconic and has great potential for passenger services with a mix of express intercity, commuter and metro services, as well as plenty of freight. Preferably backdated to Summer 2019 or so for the sake of maximum stock variety and with spurs to Letchworth GC and St. Pancras Low Level. This would allow for logical terminating points without becoming a ridiculously lengthy route. It can also make very good use of already existing stock in game with slight modifications as necessary for subclasses and such.

• Metropolitan line - Being the first underground route in the world, it is honestly a no brainer imo. It has some amazing historic architecture along the route and I believe it strikes a good balance of underground vs above ground stations, which would help it not become too bland visually. Again this is a route with varied service patterns and it has numerous branches, so it shouldn't become monotonous.

• London Tilbury and Southend - It's a very nice self contained route with different branches and amazing freight potential, especially if London Gateway were to be included (could make use of the 66, 70 and 90). Has quite unique scenery taking you right from the heart of City of London, through suburbs, industry, dockland and some beautiful nature along the Thames Estuary. A nice chunk of the District and Hammersmith & City lines run parallel too, that could have drivable services from somewhere like Bow Road to Upminster using the modified Class 484 seen on GWE (or even the S7/8 if the Met line were made). As someone above mentioned earlier too, the Romford - Upminster (Liberty line) could be potentially be included as short spur.

Apologies to everyone up north who is currently drowning in a lack of content, there are plenty of routes that I'd like to see in places like Lancashire, Yorkshire and Durham too. I would also love to see some more historic stuff from the 70s and 80s (not just based around the WCML).

 

Just had a thought after noticing a pattern since tsw3

• TSW 3 - Southeastern High Speed Extended - partially in London
• TSW 4 - Peterborough to Doncaster - not in London (but the trains go to London)
• TSW 5 - Euston to Milton Keynes - partially in London
• TSW 6 - Riviera Line - not in London (but some of the trains go to London)

If they follow that pattern, we can assume TSW's UK route would probably be, partially at least, in London

 

In no particular order

1.The Cotswold Line: Oxford to Great Malvern (GWR)
2. An SWR route (London Waterloo to Portsmouth/ Southampton to Weymouth)
3. Something with Bristol (GWR)
4. London Marylebone to Birmingham Snow Hill (Chiltern)
5. East West Rail: Oxford to Milton Keynes (Chiltern)
6. West Highland Line (ScotRail)
7. GEML (Greater Anglia)
8. Midland Main Line South (East Midlands Railway)
9. ECML Kings Cross to Peterborough (LNER)
10. Ffestiniog Railway

 

Ok, here's my "top three"

Wales)
- Bristol-Cardiff/Cardiff-Swansea(South Wales).
- Chester-Bangor(Holyhead)/Crewe-Llandudno Jn+branch(North Wales Coast).
- Cardiff-Hereford/Crewe-Shrewsbury(Welsh Marches).

Scotland)
- Queen Street-Anniesland, Helensburgh & Crianlarich(Maryhill, North Clyde-Argyle & West Highland South).
- Glasgow Central-Ayr/Largs(Ayrshire Coast-South Western).
- Dundee-Aberdeen(Scottish East Coast).

England)
- Piccadilly-Sheffield(Hope Valley).
- St Pancras-Bedford(MML South).
- Something Anglia-based (Wherry etc)!

Bonus)
- Fenchurch Street-Shoeburyness(c2c).
- Marylebone-Aylesbury/Oxford/Banbury(Chiltern).
- Newcastle-Middlesbrough (Durham Coast).

My dream: Settle-Carlisle, early Northern era+steam

 

North Wales Mainline: Crewe to Holyhead.

 

I'm not sure if you used Artificial "Intelligence" for your summary but they were not built for British Rail's Western Region. The original intention was for them to be used on the Eastern Region to replace Class 47s on long distance journeys as the 47s were set be de-rated to improve reliability and reduce maintenance.

The plan was scrapped but then revisited when it became clear that BR needed powerful diesels to plug the gap in the delayed electrification north of Carlisle. So London Midland Region leased them on a ten year contract. Eventually BR bought-up the lease with English Electric with the intention of deploying them on the Western Region to replace the Class 52 Westerns, though with the HSTs going into production within a year, it's not entirely clear what the long-term thinking was.

The first transfer from LMR to WR was in late 1972 for driver and depot staff familiarisation. The migration of the bulk of the fleet ran from 1974 to 1977 by which time their replacements, the HST were already in service. They were wonderful locos but, like many BR era locomotives, suffered from a lack of a long-term role on the system and were withdrawn decades ahead of older standard types.