Wcml Preston To Crewe Discussion

What does age have to do about it?

 

As good as the route looks, I think it is a total shame that the mk2e's are not the standard mk2d's Thinking back to the time period this is set in, it was normally the mk2d winged seated air con wooden sided carriages that was on the Cross country Scotland services, especially the Edinburgh services. I hope that these will be implemented at some time, as they are absolutely needed,

 

Will probably come within the next few JT routes but tbh I really want them to knock out some nice MK1s as we don't have many of those (ignoring the Athena MK1s). A nice TSO, BSO, FO, FK, BSK and SK at a minimum would be really appreciated.

 

...and the Mk3s sleepers.

 

Maybe some Mk1 sleepers as well.

To be honest looking at some digital Platform Marshalling Documents it is interesting to see there are multiple sleeper services running to and from Euston instead of two (I looked at a 78 PTM).

 

Any links please?

 

Two is multiple.

 

Mk1s finished early 80s, Taunton fire saw them decreed not fit for service. It still baffles me how the detail orientated JT could compromise using day mk3 coaches when the Sleeper varient could be fairly easy to create....

 

Manual is available on JT website. Getting closer.

 

Brilliant! The Route Map is finally here!!

Edit. As a Wigan/Ashtoner at a first glance this looks amazing. Great to see the Church and Uncle Joes Mintballs included as well as the Scholes flats. I used to play on Giants Graveyard outside of Haydock Park. The towers at Parkside fill me with all sorts of nostaglia! I can't wait for a preview stream and

 

Here's the route map which I know a number of people have been asking for
Quite excited for this!

 

A manual! A developer who does the job properly and deserves to be supported, others take note.

 

Come on JT! Release it!

 

do any services call at the smaller intermediate stations that aren’t warrington and wigan? i assume the pacer would do these but im not familiar with diagrams from the 80s

 

Will be soon after MK to Crewe, a week or so, but a June release is my guess.

 

either thursday 18th or tuesday 23rd i reckon. possibly the 23rd is more likely, as the 18th would mean the preview would presumably be on the 11th which may well be the day of the roadmap stream if it’s not published on monday

 

There is a root hop to Trent Valley at Crewe. That explains the delay to this route. It couldn’t release until that was released.

 

I don't think they'd "delay" the route just for a route hop

 

Something I've just noticed from the manual screenshots is there appears to be brand new 80s npcs?

 

And also do I spy a Sierra & a Mk2 Golf amongst other possible new car models?

 

I see them too)

 

Isn't one of them a Metro?

 

Will the military and nuclear dlc layer into it.

 

Unless someone can correct me, there’s not much scope to drive anything which stops at any of them, I’m afraid.

Leyland is served by Preston-Manchester DMUs (possibly you may be able to drive them for the very short hop from Leyland to Preston)

Newton-le-Willows and Earlestown are served by services on the Liverpool-Manchester route.

Winsford, Hartford and Acton Bridge are served by Crewe-Liverpool EMUs. Crewe to Acton Bridge with two stops would be a decent drive, but unfortunately there are no suitable EMUs in TSW. I don’t think we know how JT are going to represent these services (either with a 101, or omit them completely I’d imagine) but there isn’t really a good way of doing it.

Edit:

I’ve just seen in the manual they say Leyland has a service to Liverpool. I wonder whether that goes via St Helens Central. If so, you could drive it from Preston to Wigan North Western.

My only other thought is whether there was a Warrington Bank Quay - Liverpool service at the time, calling at Earlestown. If so you could drive it from Warrington Bank Quay to Earlestown.

 

I got a little bit excited by the Leyland Nationals.

 

There should be services from NLW to Warrington which go onto Chester/North Wales from Manchester.

 

Anything going over the top of the WCML at Hartford on the Chester to Manchester line?

 

Looking through the manual and the route just looks great. Really looking forward to its release.

My only gripe is the ballast textures. As with the previous two routes, they are extremely repetitive and rather dark IMO. I’m just surprised JT hasn’t looked to improve these considering there is such attention to detail with everything else.

 

Still looking like day one from me. Will buy straight off JT website as per last DLCs. Looks like its ready and its being held up by the one handled Northampton loop avoider route.....

 

That’s a good point. Any idea what they would have been formed of in this era?

 

47s on mk2s or the odd 45. Also Various DMU types pretty much whatever could move and was signed by the crews en route.

 

Where is the manual available?

 

https://downloads.justtrains.net/pr...Coast_Main_Line_Crewe_Preston_TSW6_manual.pdf

 

Thanks! The release is very near now...

 

Uncle Joe’s Mint Balls. I keep a stock of them in the house because running out is not an option. I’ve got six bags at the moment.

 

Are there any accessible areas on the route like Station Rooms and Toilets. Any accessible Signal Boxes etc?

 

Screenshots show the more modern route and inverted triangle speed boards. During the 1980s these were stencil type board I recall and so the ones used seem a little bit too modern.

 

They were sort of starting to appear in early '86. I remember visiting the Kyle line around that time and while window valuing the 37/4 thrash I was surprised to see the more modern highway style speed signs and inverted triangles had largely replaced the old style along there.

 

Thank you. Sounds like fun! I hope these services feature on the route.

 

Would probably crash the game if it was clicked and the route didn’t exist. Might be minor but essential I would imagine.

 

Great route looking good so far