West Coast Main Line: Trent Valley From All Aboard Studios

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  1. MadduckUK

    MadduckUK Well-Known Member

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    What does a British word mean when you translate it to English?
     
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  2. tomron#8712

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    ahh ok, thanks for the explanation! little annoying there are no end-to-end runs in the 807 which stop at any intermediate stations but I also prefer having realistic timetables so no blame on AABS outside of a slightly misleading article
     
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    Okay, taken the plunge and bought it. If Steam finishes downloading before bedtime will probably ignore the Journey anf fire up a 390 from MKC to Crewe.

    Edit: Well so far, it... rocks! Going through those reverse curves north of Roade towards Kilsby totally hellfire and very zen. Running in 4K on my GTX 1650 and getting +- 20 FPS which I'm happy with. Hopefully squeeze a few more once the shaders have built.

    So seems my pessimism/scepticism was unfounded. My only constructive criticism based on this fairly short bit so far is do they really have to replicate Network Rail's linear forest quite so meticulously. Leave some gaps so we can see the scenery and (maybe) improve performance a bit.
     
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  4. rat7_mobile

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    Without a guide it is impossible to find all patates
     
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    It was noted on TrainsimTV that the catenary wires do not zig-zag per the prototype (for even wear on pantographs). Not a showstopper but hard to unsee once you notice. Apart from that, Tom was very happy with the route.
     
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  6. rat7_mobile

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    it means it is a British language word, and we need the word in English, not in Brisitsh
     
  7. kieran#9718

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    Just completed a full run in a 350/4 1U23 on the full timetable with freight layers disabled, and it honestly exceeded expectations.

    Some blur started to appear around Nuneaton (roughly 46 miles in), but it wasn’t too bad. It mainly affected the smaller text on the train control buttons, while the larger text stayed sharp (see attached image).

    Platform visuals were a bit blurred but signage remained clear, and most of the scenery held up well for the duration of the journey.

    The exterior of the train did become slightly blurry at points, but nowhere near the level seen on other routes like Birmingham to Crewe. On that route, the 350s sometimes look like they’ve been through a fire.

    Considering the route length, it was seriously impressive. I was fully expecting a much worse experience.

    I also did a short run in the 807 from Rugby to Milton Keynes Central and had no issues at all with the same setup (full timetable, freight layers disabled).

    So far I’d give it an 8/10.
     
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  8. shredder

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    Assuming the crash at Lichfield was due to a spawn on a WMR 323? I had the same problem, on a full run in the 807, MK to Crewe. Weirdly though, there was a Northern 323 heading southbound between Nuneaton and Rugby..
     
  9. kieran#9718

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    Image attached
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  10. MadduckUK

    MadduckUK Well-Known Member

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    Who is we?
     
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    WE is English speaking people, meaning those that do not speak British
     
  12. neilwatson2007

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    Done some digging and using Euston to MK, Trent Valley and Manchester Commuter, you can almost do an entire run from Euston to Piccadilly using headcode 1H65, departing Euston to begin with at 10.31 in the Pedolino AWC 350/0 train if my memory and notes serve me right
     
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  13. townsend_simon

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    I think DIRFT Is Daventry International Railfreight Terminal....which is near rugby

    rat7_mobile
     
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  14. MadduckUK

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    Could you be more specific because that sounds really stupid.
     
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    Sort of run I’m looking forward to taking for a spin!
     
  16. rat7_mobile

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    British language is what is spoken by the people living on the Island of Britannia (UK), English is what is spoken by people not living on the Island of Britannia (the world)
     
  17. FallenAngel00me

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    Nope. There's no such thing as a British language.

    There is English (traditional) which people in the UK speak. And then there is English (simplified) which the rest of the English speaking world speaks.
     
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  18. townsend_simon

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    he's talking about british dialect....english is a language with many dialects....
     
  19. MadduckUK

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    British language is what is spoken by the people living on the Island of Britannia (UK), English is what is spoken by people not living on the Island of Britannia (the world)
     
  20. townsend_simon

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    british is not a language its a dialect....americans coming here and living here dont suddenly start speaking british english....they speak american english...just like you dont speak cockney if you go inside the m25....
     
  21. MadduckUK

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    You have clearly never seen my cockney walk.
     
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    PC/Steam here, did a few runs and no major issues to report.

    Did 390 Crewe-MK (1 stop at Nuneaton), 37 L/E Nuneaton-Crewe and 66 DIRFT-Crewe BH.

    Only momentary stutters were experienced on the 66 job as passing through various waypoints (evidently it's how they had to set the paths up as go-via's). The 390 run was at line speed all the way and it kept up without any issue loading in the scenery at speed.

    So far the only issues I've encountered were;

    37 L/E Crewe-Crewe: Signaller won't allow you onto the fuel road as you need to "check the switches" but the points are all correctly set.
    66 DRS 4S44: Flashing tail light affixed to front of loco and non-removable.
    Texture: Posters seem slightly low resolution until you walk right up to them then they become perfectly sharp and remain so when moving away.

    So far done about 300 miles, was nice to get the 390 to stretch it's legs (even if I don't like them in reality) and the same for the 66. Will churn out another few hundred miles tomorrow, bedtime now ;)
     
  23. historicalduck7

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    i’m not sure why and how this thread has descended into people quarrelling over what the english language is, but it’s hardly a surprise to see that happen. back to the topic, i’m very happy with the route, aabs have proven themselves again and the 70 can’t come soon enough
     
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  24. subwayg0at

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    This means go to DIRFT (which is one of the teleport points) and get 3 potato collectables there. The problem is that only the potatoes around DIRFT count, others do not.

    Update: For documentation, the position of those potatoes are in the screenshot attached.
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  25. box215

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    too bad there isn't a dislike button. lmao what?

    Simplified English is a controlled, easy-to-understand version of the language. It uses a short word list (about 850–2,000 words) and basic rules so people with low literacy or who are learning English can read it easily. It helps make text shorter and clearer to read

    Americans speak American English
    Canadians speak Canadian English
    Aussies speak Australian English

    get it?
     
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  26. operator#7940

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    English is the overall mother language. However, pretending that even all of "Britain" speaks the SAME exact English is poppycock. A Scot and a Etonian and a Liverpudian are all speaking quite different variations and that's within a quick drive from one another.

    For that matter, simply the terms "England" and "Britain" being interchanged have led to more than one fight in my experience.

    =-)
     
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  27. FallenAngel00me

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    And none of those speak proper English. Get it?
     
  28. 85hertz

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    I think the best thing for you to see a good improvement in performance is either upgrade your GPU or downgrade your resolution to 1080p, running 4K on a GTX 1650 is a bit nuts.
     
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    Because the mod needs an update for the new routes. Either wait for an official update or a temporary fix from the community. They say it's fairly easy to do, but apparently no one has taken it on yet.
    I found myself in a similar situation in one service on the Linke Rheinstrecke. I methodically changed the positions of all the arrows in the area, even though it wasn't necessary. After one of them, the error went away and I was able to continue.
    Vern is playing a turn-based strategy game. Don't interfere.
     
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  30. ACELA101

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    4K 75" qled
     
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  31. OldVern

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    I’m quite happy with it actually! However my goto compromise is 1440p which usually lets me run at 30 FPS.
     
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    I often find in games that 1440p with heavier anti aliasing and/or increased screen percentage offers better performance and good visual quality - overall it’s a better outcome for me than a 4K output. Caveat there is I don’t play TSW on PC so YMMV with it.
     
  33. maxipolo12

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    On the Trent valley in the journey mod, they used apparrently the reduced timetable? Why they did that ? I play most of the time the journey mod and it ruined my experience:/
     
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  34. maxipolo12

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    At least give on pc the normal version. It shouldn't be a bit much amount of work for the devs DTG Alex
     
  35. OldVern

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    I’m toying with getting a RTX3050 but that’s tempered by not wanting to spend £150 on a new video card that could go towards replacing the whole PC in the autumn, if MS don’t offer the 12 month security extension for Windows 10 again.

    The main thing is, I’m happy with the results and would never complain about performance (well not much anyway) knowing how ancient my rig is!
     
  36. JetWash

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    Not sure what you’re talking about here? There is no ‘British’ language. People in Great Britain & NI speak English.
     
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    To be honest Vern, a 3050 is barely worth it. It’s the entry level card from two generations of tech ago and you won’t notice a huge improvement to be honest.

    As a rule I believe your 1650 is roughly equivalent to a Series S and the Series X is approximately a 3060ti level. One of our guys has a 3050 though and we use that as our ‘will it run ok on this’ benchmark. If you’re getting a new PC later in the year save the money, if not then it’s maybe worth considering
     
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  38. CK95

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    Yeah agree with JetWash, only xx50 card that’s worth it is the 5050 IMO but at that point you’re in the 5060 ti price range anyway.

    Of course if you’ve got an older build you probably have other considerations so I think any significant leap from a 1650 build is going to be a few hundred.
     
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  39. Gilly

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    #English properly!! ;):D
     
  40. OldVern

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    At the risk of dragging the thread even further off topic, the long term solution is a new PC… My processor I7 4770 is the maximum for the motherboard so that would have to be replaced for a new CPU. That will then need DDR4 RAM. The whole thing would then need a beefier PSU than the current 450w one. At that point, all that’s left is the case and drives so probably easier and more economical to just order a new box.
     
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  41. joffonon

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    Whilst true when you posted that, God Mode was updated late last night, one of the changes being: "God Mode is now universally supported on any current and future route and no longer bound to certain map files only".
    With all due respect, Vern; suggesting that trees are affecting performance when you're (still) running in 4K on a 1080p GPU is bizarre.
     
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    100% this. Don't even think about trying to upgrade your current PC, save the money for a new PC that has the performance to match your monitor.
     
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    The funny thing about that argument over DIRFT being a "British word" and "English words" is that it isn't even a word; it's an acronym
     
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    I don’t envy you with the state of hardware pricing right now. Thankfully I upgraded most of my components when the 40 series dropped, I dread to think what it would have cost me to do in the current gen of GPU.
     
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    I think you misunderstood my comments about the foliage. 99% related to the aesthetics, performance just an afterthought. :)
     
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    Like me he only has UK DLCs, but it wasn't until he downloaded Trent Valley it started to crash.

    But he has said it's about 50/50 at the moment whether it'll crash or work. So maybe there is something to be said about the Pro
     
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    To be fair, you have mentioned it a few times recently, and not just as an afterthought:
     
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    I mean I read that as the trees are something that shouldn’t be there in the first place, an issue which in turn has performance impacts.

    It would be different if the scenery was accurate & complaints arose about performance, but modelling something incorrectly & it having negative impacts on performance, is fair game for a complaint IMO.
     
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    The case and drives age extremely slowly. Power supplies are no exception. My previous Zalman Z11 case had gone through several upgrades before I decided to go compact. The power supply also lasted over 12 years and died when a fan stopped working, causing overheating. A couple of 250GB Seagate HDDs can now buy alcohol on their own, and they still work in RAID 1 for the most important files. They, along with the first SSDs, are still healthy, unlike several newer HDDs died one after another within two weeks after the end of the 3-year guarantee.
     

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