Playing on console. I’ve encountered an issue with the class 87 on the Preston to Carlisle route. The train is limited to a 100mph instead of 110mph. I’ve restored the license of the game, didn’t work. I’ve deleted the route and class 86 redownloaded both also didn’t work. The maximum speed stays limited at 100mph. Anyone else that has this problem, if so has anyone got a fix ?
If you're pulling a consist with anything other than mk3s and the mk1 NHA then you'll not be permitted to run at 110mph as that was the only stock rated for 110mph running. All other stock was 100mph rated. If you're not sure just take a look at the ends of the coaches in your train and it tells you there what the maximum permitted speed of that vehicle is.
I had that last night, I checked the plate on one of the coaches and it was restricted to 100mph, which was the first time this had happened to me. Nearly caught me out as I was leaving Carlisle! Don't know if the timetable is altered to take this into account.
Yes, I do have the Class 86. I usually play with the Speedo screen on, was a bit surprised and double checked the loco class, when the line didn't increase above 100mph. When I stopped at Penrith, I checked the first coach and saw the restriction!
Just went back and checked what service it was, and set up again to check. Service 1O11 Glasgow CTL to Poole
Remember, it's the lowest common demonimator. If you have a rake of 10 mk3s and a single mk2, then your maximum speed will be 100. Put a 37/0 DIT on the end and it drops to 80, for example. Also the sleepers I believe are limited to 75.
My understanding is the mk3 sleepers can do 100mph, although they’re timed to 80mph. So they do 80mph when running to time (to improve ride quality for sleeping passengers) but when late running can go up to 100mph to make up time.
Yes the 80 (not 75 as originally erroneously set up) restriction on the overnight trains is an artificial one for passenger comfort if running on time. If late, then the maximum speed of the slowest vehicle in the formation (probably 100) can be used, though of course TSW doen't support that.
That's a cross country service not a WCML service so was never used with mk3 stock and always limited to 100mph using mk1 & mk2 stock.
Looking at the diagrams, the Class 87 BLU can run in place of the Class 86 and therefore with Mk 2 coaches restricted to 100mph. I usually use an InterCity variant of the Class 87, which probably always running with Mk 3 coaches. I like that type of variation, that JT put into their routes, could well happen with sets getting way laid due to engineering works and diversions etc.
It were the coaches indeed. I never knew the class 86 coaches subbed in to the class 87 as well. Thanks a lot for the help and explanations everyone !
That's interesting to know. I don't have the 86 yet, but if I were to buy it it would effectively downgrade the 87 services down to 100mph, if I understand correctly?
No, the 87 already has services with mk2s that are already limited to 100mph. All the 86 pack does is swap the train out to be the more prototypical an 86 and aircon mk2s, rather than 87 and non-aircon mk2s
