Freight Trains On German Routes

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  1. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    So this week I bought the Railpool Vectron in the Xbox sale. Today I drove on Salzburg - Rosenheim and I noticed multiple sidings now have freight trains. I did not see the Vectron itself, but the wagon type coming with this DLC, where visible at all those sidings.

    So when you're missing one type of wagon, the sidings stays empty and are not filled with other wagons? I had already many other types of wagons and now you also see those on the sidings. Isn't this kind of weird, you need to own one type of wagon, to see the others on the sidings?

    If you do not own a specific type of wagon, are you also missing out on freight services?
     
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  2. fpriotto520

    fpriotto520 Well-Known Member

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    No, it's not strange if you look at it from a commercial perspective.
    It's just getting worse and worse.
     
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  3. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you're right about not being strange from DTG viewpoint, however they do not clearly advertise what route or train DLC you need, to see wagons at sidings. In Dovetail live articles you see what wagons you need for services, but nothing in the Salzburg - Rosenheim article and normally also not for static stock.

    Besides this, I saw for Semmeringbahn, you need DB Roos-T from Maintalbahn, I own this type already from RSN, but I guess that's not gonna work.
     
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  4. fpriotto520

    fpriotto520 Well-Known Member

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    Especially with German content, slyly
    they are shifting their focus to creating new business model paths based on layers.
     
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  5. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    I hate the whole layering system. For Groningen - Zwolle I bought the the BR155 pack for RSN, just to have static wagons at Onnen sidings, otherwise it's completely empty. Was it really that hard to include those with the route, as you can't even drive them?
     
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  6. Choo choo

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    Predatory practice. That's it.

    In Simrail for example you will have all layers enabled by default and see the relevant trains in traffic no matter whether you own them or not. You just won't be able to drive with anything you don't own.
     
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    Very simple... You paid something then you get something.... Not that difficult right?!
     
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  8. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    I like that approach. Seeing a train in game, is maybe also a better advertisement then any vid or live stream to sell a product.
     
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  9. lexie

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    I paid already for all other wagons, so I guess you do not understand my point. A lot of sidings where empty until I bought a loco DLC with one wagon. After that all my previous bought wagons where visible together with the new one. I didn't ask to see wagons I didn't buy, I just want to see the wagons I paid for.
     
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  10. noir

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    Yes, that's how TSW always worked (unlike for example Simrail where non-owned trains are still visible as AI, just not playable). Unfortunately as there is a thousand of copy-paste wagons in various state of functionality and decay, it's not always easy to understand where they come from, recently it also started to change over time with the various remasters generally using the last available version of the wagons for functionality's sake.

    However, there exists an official "TSW Add-on Database" where Dovetail actually maintains all the layering dependencies. It's linked somewhere in DTG website, but here is the direct link:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fVexHITBCNJnjrDROezcr-2TI4EKI8KnSrIwpFHQ2AE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

    When you look at Salzburg-Rosenheim in column Layer Requirements, you can see listed exact requirements for each layer to unlock (the new layer view in the game itself is as useless as always, only listing one or even none of the required addons).

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    By buying Vectron, you unlocked up to six new layers, as all the listed addons are required before that layer unlocks.
     
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  11. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    That list is helpfull to understand how the layering is done for a route. I only don't understand exactly what they mean with manifest.

    However, I'm still wondered why there aren't just random wagons in the sidings, based on what wagons you owns.

    Another thing, today I did 2 services at DRA, I didn't see the Railpool Vectron on any freight service. Only the multipe variants of the BR185 and one time the BR143. Also on the run on Salzburg - Rosenheim I didn't see a single Vectron. Sometimes I really don't understand the logic of this game, especially on DRA I expected to see the Vectron, as it is an DLC for this route.
     
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