Out Now Wcml: Crewe - Preston: Out Now!

Cant find it on xbox

 

It's there now

 

Thanks

 

Your welcome

 

Oh dear. I feared as much. This is really becoming endemic now, puts me off buying any route until it gets solved. Shame, as I'm looking forward to this one.

 

Yeah, let's be honest. We all knew this was going to happen. Their answers weren't very convincing at all. I bet they didn't even test anything on consoles.
Also, I don't want to say this but someone at either Dovetail (more likely) or JustTrains are incompetent or liars, because they said they didn't have any reports of blurriness on this route.
Last edit: I don't care if it's not feedback, it's important to let everyone know about what kind of company you are Dovetail! I will keep replying even if you keep deleting my post!

 

No reports if no one tested it! TBH I’m still sceptical about what the PC experIence will deliver. Watching the final part of the stream going along to Bickershaw Colliery, the juddering and outright pauses were very evident. We need to keep a close eye on the Feedback thread, which appears to be getting very heavily moderated to shuffle the bad news elsewhere, to take a balance view on purchasing later.

 

Yeah, they are deleting my messages even when they contain an actual feedback report now! I REALLY DISLIKE Dovetail.

 

To be fair Jan, it’s still feedback if indirect and the feedback thread is the first place people will look to get a view of whether or not to jump in and buy with both feet on Day One.

 

Anyway, I'll report this here then:
Sorry, why did my last message get deleted? I reported blurry textures on my PS5 by the time I reached Weaver Junction, Crewe to Preston, morning, 86/4, light clouds. Thank you.

 

If the PS5 is struggling, then my potato PC certainly will. Mind, it’s not surprising, looking at the stream when Matt zoomed in on the grass they seem to have modelled it down to the individual seed ears on every blade or stem. That’s going to kill performance on the best system. I always maintained the sound squelching and stuttering on Shap was down to the insane amount of detailed hi res foliage, now they have added it to Blackpool Branches and this new route.

Just because you can make it, doesn’t mean filling every gap with it when people want good FPS driving past at 80 MPH…

 

I think the problem is that this game is very poorly optimised. In fact, I have found that by opening the "spawn new train" menu, it takes up memory space even when it's closed. This stacks up and if you keep opening and closing it, you'll get a memory crash. It's funny to see, honestly, because I assume it means once a UI is loaded it never really gets unloaded from memory. I don't know where else to report this though. I don't know if it could help with blurriness either.

 

Jan, take a look at my previous message in this thread. It might be something to report to the team if they're not aware.

 

Fantastic route the coal loading and unloading is terrific fantastic to hear Tom's voice in tutorials well done just trains absolutely worth day 1 purchase

 

Patience required it's a biggy, around 16Gb on my Xbox!

 

Looking at the feedback report, this is yet another rough launch! I feel especially sorry for Xbox players because at least on PS5 you can actually drive the route even if it's all blurry!

 

It's not 'all blurry' on PS5 at all. I havent seen any yet and have been playing since it was released.

 

Well... Guess we must be playing on very different games then! Unless you don't have all the layers active. Because I do. And I'm not the only one having issues either. Maybe you're just lucky! Good for you!

 

all aboard put in a load of optimisation work, there’s still blurring. JT, who’ve previously avoided blurring for the most part are caught out this time. at this point there’s little any third party can do except wait an eternity for dtg to fix this calamity

 

That's true of many of the "cool" new features in DTG. Just because you CAN doesn't mean it's a great idea, especially if it hampers performance to be overdetailed. However, on the other side you will get people saying "But I need that level of detail or I don't get my immersion!"

Sometimes you can't win.

 

Did see some light blurs now on the dash during a high speed service with the 86. I have seen worse, but it's there.

 

What systems/platforms are people using?
I see a lot of people mentioning XBox problems.
Unfortunately I'm not a "person of the future" so am not out of work yet in order to try it myself =-)

 

This was my stream Yesterday Morning. I started it at 25 minutes as I was faffing about with bit slol.

PC specs

CPU Intel Core i9 10850K
1TB SSD
Memory 32 gb DDR4
GPU Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 12gb GDDR6
8tb External HDD
300gb External HDD

https://www.youtube.com/live/cEsWSm9HVO4?si=ybhj8Rnk_1SIycEj&t=1500

Had a feeling the PS5 version was going to suffer

46 minutes into my stream on the normal PS5 the blurry textures appeared and practically stayed with me for the rest of the stream.



need to turn my mic audio down

 

Dont get me wrong but its a fantastic route, it ticks all my boxes but with the current issues on the Consoles its a complete let down.

 

It wont work on xbox when you select to go to Crewe to Preston it says error then goes off

 

Really sorry but whatever team you got looking at the core issues of the game to stop the blurry texture clearly don’t know what they doing. Other games on consoles don’t have this issue so why is it on Train sim world. Honestly sort it out!

 

I have blurs on the high speed services, no issues on the stoppers, coal loading, shunting etcetera (on PS5). So not perfect, but somehow they seem to be closer to a solution than on other routes: Birmingham Crewe and Stuttgart-Heilbronn were worse. On NY-Stamford and Medway it does work, maybe the devs should learn more lessons from those routes.

 

That's because they can't fix it but obviously can't admit it

 

Driving 2D35 - Manchester Victoria to Chester.
After Earlestown the AWS triggers and can't be turned off.

Resetting doesn't help, the pacer keeps coming to a halt.
The AWS in question was before signal WN546.

 

Wait until they start banning you for a week….

 

…who then ignore them because they don’t have the capability to fix the issue!

 

Speaking from experience?

 

That wouldn't surprise me if it happened, but honestly? I wouldn't really care. It's not like I post often on the forums. Just when things start to REALLY get on my nerves. And blurry textures and crashes that keep happening for like three years at this point with a promised fix which we don't know what it is, when it's coming and IF it's even coming (unlikely, in my opinion) is something that starts getting just slightly on my nerves.
One thing is for sure though: I am not buying anything else that's released for this game, whether it is from DTG or a third party, until they've fixed these issues and I have proof from actual players that it's fixed. (So, most likely never)

 

Do you post when you're happy too? Or only negative?

 

Damn. I thought PC would be immune to some of the nonsense happening on other hardware.

 

I have already flagged this as a possible issue in one of the other threads and JT are denying it should be an issue. But I'm not convinced. Filling a route with detailed vegetation is not the wisest move for optimisation and the aesthetics need to be balanced with performance, particularly for consoles and less powerful PC's.

 

I almost did that on a run to Latchford sidings!

 

I don't post when I'm happy... Because this game has never made me happy in the past three years. Just disappointed. When I was happy I used to post TSW videos on my YouTube channel, before all the blurry issues and everything.

 

That's NSFW content, give them some privacy, please!

 

At this point it will probably take a full core rebuild in order to fix the blurry textures.

I await the next version of train simulator.

Then we probably have 3-4 years before that one starts to have issues.

 

Not a single thing in three years?
Why do you play it then?
Find your joy mate.

 

At this point I await Project Helix like the desert awaits the rain. Don't think anything other than that will fix this.

 

Maybe it is time to finally consider more options of resolution for consoles right now we have only HD or 4K what about 1440p? IMHO Xbox series X by design (forget advertising) has no chance to perform well (like 50-60fps) over 3K.

 

Also grass and vegetation make up a very small part of the texture pool and culling some wouldn't change how often blurred textures would appear on consoles which seems to be the primary issue rather than performance on PS5 and hadn't been reported in QA testing.

How much QA testing is actually done on a PS5 ?

 

I'm NOT changing my system's resolution everytime I launch a different game. Dynamic resolution scaling is a feature that is utilized in hundreds of games, and with a simple in-game toggle could possibly help with some of these issues. Won't change the fact that the newer routes are running on the brink of what's technically possible system-wise, and open-ended structure of the content loaded due to vaious layers players have and can toggle on and off makes this system fall over way too often nowadays. These consoles are going to be six years old in 5 months. Can't wait for next-gen due to playing a lot of TSW.

 

Does anyone have a list of services that appear on PC but not consoles? If anyone could respond to this it would be really helpful .

Loving the route, it’s my favourite to train spot on. I’m sitting in arpley signal box right now lol just watching the trains go by. It’s a great route and I understand the need to cut down on consoles to get the best experience out of it .

 

According to JT, all consoles have all services. Consoles do not have static stock. Series S is missing select AI services, if that's what you mean. I haven't seen any listing that details which specific ones.